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I called SSA this morning and finally got through after trying for days! The agent explained that my benefit is actually a combination of my own small retirement benefit plus a spousal supplement that brings the total to $1,200. The math works out exactly as you all explained! She said my own benefit at 62 was calculated at $320 (reduced from my PIA of about $500), and then they added a reduced spousal supplement of $880 to reach $1,200 total. The full spousal benefit would have been around $1,950 if I'd waited until my FRA. I'm kicking myself a bit for not waiting, but at the time we really needed the income. At least now I understand how they calculated it. Thank you all so much for your help!

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Glad you got it figured out! Don't beat yourself up about claiming early - sometimes the immediate need for income outweighs the long-term increase. Plus, you'd need to live quite a few years past your FRA to break even on the money you're collecting now. Financial decisions aren't just about math but about what works for your particular situation at a specific time.

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Has anyone noticed that the SSA calculators online are TERRIBLE at explaining spousal benefits? They focus almost entirely on retirement benefits based on your own record. Their website barely mentions that spousal benefits don't increase past FRA! I spent HOURS researching this when helping my mother with her benefits. The most important details are buried in footnotes or completely missing!

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So true. The Social Security Handbook is over 700 pages long with thousands of rules. Even many SSA employees don't understand all the nuances around spousal benefits, especially after the law changes in 2015 that eliminated some filing strategies. Always good to double-check your benefit calculations and ask specifically for a breakdown of how they arrived at your amount.

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Absolutely agree! I'm new to navigating all this Social Security stuff and the online resources are so confusing. I've been trying to understand spousal benefits for my own situation and this whole thread has been more helpful than anything I found on the official SSA website. It's frustrating that such important financial decisions rely on information that's so hard to find and understand. Thank you all for sharing your experiences - it really helps newcomers like me!

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I want to thank everyone for their incredibly helpful responses! I've learned so much about WEP and now understand I need to confirm exactly how many years of "substantial earnings" I have according to SSA's specific thresholds. I'm going to try contacting SSA to get my full earnings record and request written confirmation about my WEP status. It sounds like with my 32 years in the private sector, I'm likely exempt from WEP reductions as long as my earnings met the thresholds for at least 30 of those years. I'll also look into whether my state highway department might have a Section 218 Agreement, though I'm pretty sure we don't pay into Social Security there. Thanks again for clarifying this confusing topic - I feel much better prepared to finalize my retirement plans now!

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Great summary Aisha! One additional tip - when you get your earnings record from SSA, you can actually request what's called a "WEP factsheet" that will show you exactly which years count toward your substantial earnings and what your projected benefit would be with and without WEP. This document is super helpful for retirement planning since it eliminates the guesswork. Also, if you find you're just short of the 30 years needed for full exemption, remember that you might still qualify for a reduced WEP penalty rather than the full reduction. The penalty decreases as you get closer to 30 years of substantial earnings. Good luck with your retirement planning!

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I'm really sorry you're going through this confusing situation. As others have mentioned, your sister was correct - survivor benefits for a surviving spouse do stop when you remarry before age 60. The good news is that you've been incredibly responsible by saving those payments! One additional tip: when you visit the SSA office, bring documentation of EVERYTHING. Your marriage certificate, records of when you reported the name change, and if possible, try to remember the name or employee number of the person who told you the benefits would continue. This documentation could be crucial if you decide to pursue the overpayment waiver that Marina mentioned. Also, don't feel bad about this mistake - the SSA's own training materials acknowledge that the remarriage rules are one of the most commonly misunderstood aspects of survivor benefits, even among their own staff. You did the right thing by asking and following the guidance you were given. Your son's benefits will definitely continue unchanged, which is one less thing to worry about. Stay strong - you've handled this situation very responsibly so far!

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Thank you so much for this advice! I really appreciate everyone taking the time to help me understand this situation. You're right that I should gather all my documentation - I still have the receipt from when I went in to change my name, and I think it has the date and maybe even which window I went to. I'm going to call first thing tomorrow morning to make an appointment. It's reassuring to know that even SSA staff get confused about these rules sometimes. I was starting to feel like I should have somehow known better, but I really did try to do the right thing by asking directly. Thanks again for the encouragement!

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I'm so sorry you're dealing with this stressful situation! As a newcomer to this community, I wanted to share that I went through something very similar with my late husband's benefits. The remarriage rules are honestly one of the most confusing parts of the Social Security system. Everyone here has given you excellent advice - your benefits should have stopped when you remarried before age 60, but your son's will continue. The fact that you've been saving the money shows incredible foresight and responsibility. One thing I'd add is to keep detailed notes of every conversation you have with SSA going forward - date, time, employee name/ID if possible, and what was discussed. This documentation could be really helpful, especially given the conflicting information you've received. Also, when you do visit the local office, consider asking to speak with a supervisor if the first person you talk to seems uncertain about the remarriage rules. You deserve clear, accurate information, and it's okay to advocate for yourself to get it. You're handling this difficult situation with such grace and responsibility. Hang in there - once you get this sorted out, at least you'll have peace of mind knowing exactly where you stand!

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Just wanted to add one more important point that might affect your decision - if your ex-husband remarries, it won't impact your eligibility for divorced spouse benefits or survivor benefits at all. His new marriage has zero effect on your benefits as long as YOU remain unmarried. I mention this because I see a lot of people worry unnecessarily about what their ex does after divorce. The 10+ year marriage rule protects your rights regardless of his future relationships. Also, since you mentioned having kids together - if any of your children are still under 18 (or disabled), they might be eligible for benefits on their father's SSDI record too. That's a separate benefit that doesn't reduce what you could get. Good luck with your SSA appointment! Having all the numbers will really help you make the best choice for your situation.

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Thank you so much for that additional information! That's really reassuring to know that his future marriage status won't affect my benefits. Our youngest is 19 and in college, so unfortunately no longer eligible for dependent benefits. I really appreciate everyone's help in this thread. It's clear I need to get those specific calculations from SSA, but having all this background information will help me ask the right questions and understand what they tell me. This community is so valuable for navigating these complex situations!

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I'm glad you're taking the time to research this thoroughly before making a decision! As someone who went through a similar situation with my ex-spouse's SSDI benefits, I wanted to add that when you meet with the SSA representative, make sure to ask about the "protected filing date" concept. If you're leaning toward waiting but are concerned about missing out on benefits, you can sometimes file a protective claim that establishes your filing date while you gather more information. This can be especially helpful if you're close to a birthday that might affect your benefit calculations. Also, don't be discouraged if the first representative you speak with seems unsure about divorced spouse benefits - unfortunately, not all SSA staff are equally knowledgeable about these more complex situations. If you don't feel confident in the answers you receive, it's perfectly acceptable to request to speak with a supervisor or schedule another appointment. One last tip: bring a copy of your divorce decree that shows the exact marriage dates. Sometimes there can be confusion about whether you truly meet the 10-year requirement, especially if there were separations before the final divorce.

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This is excellent advice about the protective filing date! I hadn't heard of that concept before. It sounds like it could be a good safety net while I'm still deciding. I'll definitely ask about that when I meet with SSA. You're absolutely right about bringing the divorce decree - I want to make sure there's no confusion about the marriage duration. We were actually separated for about 6 months before the divorce was finalized, but we were legally married for the full 17 years. Thank you for the tip about potentially needing to speak with a supervisor if the first representative isn't knowledgeable enough. I feel much better prepared for this conversation now thanks to everyone's input here!

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My friend works for SS (not giving advice just sharing what I know) - definitely call the main number not your local office. The national line has access to more info. And keep calling until you get someone helpful cuz some reps are way better than others honestly

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This is so true! I called SS four times about my retirement and got four completely different answers until finally someone actually knew what they were talking about!

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Just checking back - were you able to get through to someone who could help? The situation with multiple families definitely complicates things, but 4 months is still excessive for not even having an update.

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Yes! I used that Claimyr service you recommended and actually got through to a claims specialist after only 20 minutes instead of the usual 2+ hour wait. They confirmed they're waiting on the current wife's paperwork, but the specialist submitted a request for provisional payments for my son since it's been over 120 days. They said we should receive the first payment (including backpay) within 2-3 weeks! Thank you so much for your help!

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