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Just wanted to add one important point that might help others reading this thread - when you're on SSDI and your spouse files for retirement benefits, the SSA is supposed to automatically check if you're eligible for additional spousal benefits. However, this doesn't always happen seamlessly, so it's worth calling to confirm they've done this evaluation. Also, if your husband delays his retirement past his FRA to get delayed retirement credits (which increase his benefit by 8% per year until age 70), this doesn't affect your potential spousal benefit calculation since that's based on his Primary Insurance Amount at FRA, not his actual increased benefit amount. Good luck getting through to SSA - the wait times have been terrible lately!
This is really helpful information! I didn't realize that SSA is supposed to automatically check for spousal benefit eligibility when a spouse files for retirement. That makes me feel better about potentially calling them - I can ask specifically if they've done this evaluation for my case. The point about delayed retirement credits not affecting the spousal benefit calculation is also good to know. Thanks for adding these important details!
I went through something very similar when my wife started collecting SSDI and I reached my FRA. One thing that helped us was understanding that even though she wouldn't get additional spousal benefits (her SSDI was already higher than 50% of my PIA), we still benefited from having both our benefits coming in. Also, don't forget to consider the tax implications - depending on your combined income, some of your Social Security benefits might become taxable. It's worth speaking with a tax professional if your total household income is getting close to the thresholds. The survivor benefit situation that others mentioned is definitely something to keep in mind for long-term planning. Hope you're able to get through to SSA soon - maybe try calling right when they open at 8 AM, that sometimes helps with the wait times.
Great advice about calling right at 8 AM - I've heard that tip before but haven't tried it yet. The point about tax implications is something I hadn't considered at all. With my SSDI and his retirement benefit combined, we might be getting into territory where taxes become a factor. I'll definitely look into that. It's reassuring to hear from someone who went through a similar situation. Even though I won't get additional spousal benefits, it sounds like there are still other financial planning considerations to think about. Thanks for sharing your experience!
UPDATE: I followed everyone's advice and used Claimyr to reach a Social Security rep yesterday. The rep confirmed we need to file the SSA-795 form requesting recalculation due to the WEP repeal. She said we should include: 1. A statement requesting recalculation due to WEP repeal 2. My husband's most recent OPERS benefit statement 3. A copy of his W-2s showing years of substantial earnings She estimated it would take 10-12 weeks for processing but said the backpay would include all months from January 2024. Based on our rough calculation, he should get around $8,550 in backpay plus an additional $475 monthly going forward. Thank you all for your help! I'll post another update once we get the adjustment.
Glad Claimyr worked for you too! The wait times for SS are ridiculous right now. And thanks for sharing what documents you need - this will help others in the same situation. Hope your husband gets his backpay soon!
As someone new to this community, I just want to say thank you all for sharing such detailed information! My mom is in a similar situation - she was a teacher for 30 years and has been getting reduced SS benefits due to WEP. We had no idea we needed to file paperwork to get the adjustment after the repeal. Reading through all your experiences has been incredibly helpful. We're going to try the Claimyr service to get through to Social Security and request the SSA-795 form. It's frustrating that SSA isn't being more proactive about notifying people, but at least now we know what steps to take. Will definitely follow up once we hear back from them!
One more important thing to note - when your husband passes away, you should not cash or deposit his final Social Security payment if it arrives after his death. That payment will need to be returned to SSA. They will then issue the correct payment based on the date of death. This is a common point of confusion that can lead to overpayment issues later.
As someone who has worked with many families going through this transition, I want to emphasize a few key points that haven't been mentioned yet. First, make sure you keep detailed records of all communications with SSA - dates, names of representatives you spoke with, and case numbers. This becomes invaluable if there are any delays or discrepancies. Second, consider having multiple copies of the death certificate ready, as you'll need certified copies for various agencies and financial institutions beyond just SSA. Finally, if you have any direct deposit information that needs updating or if you want payments sent to a different account, bring that banking information with you when you apply for survivor benefits. The last thing you want to worry about during a difficult time is payment logistics. Planning these details now while you have the mental bandwidth will make the process much smoother later.
This is incredibly helpful advice, especially about keeping detailed records! I never would have thought about needing multiple death certificates for different agencies. Your point about having banking information ready is also really smart - the last thing anyone wants during grief is to have payment delays because of missing paperwork. Thank you for sharing your professional experience with us. It's clear you've helped many families navigate this difficult process.
This is excellent practical advice! I hadn't thought about keeping detailed records of SSA conversations, but that makes so much sense given how backed up their system seems to be right now. The point about multiple death certificates is especially helpful - I imagine you need them for banks, insurance, pensions, and who knows what else. One question: do you recommend calling ahead to find out exactly which documents SSA will need for the survivor benefits application, or is it pretty standardized? I want to make sure I have everything ready so I don't have to make multiple trips during what will already be a difficult time.
Based on what you've shared, here's what I recommend as your next steps: 1. Help your daughter create a my Social Security account at ssa.gov to check her work credits. 2. Gather comprehensive medical evidence: - Clinical records from therapists/doctors - Psychological evaluations if available - Prescription medication history - Treatment notes documenting symptoms and limitations - Any hospitalizations or intensive outpatient treatment 3. Document how her conditions affect daily functioning: - Failed work attempts with specific details - Difficulties with daily activities - Social functioning limitations - Episodes of decompensation (periods when symptoms worsen) 4. Apply for both SSDI and SSI simultaneously online or by calling SSA. 5. Consider getting a disability attorney if initially denied (most work on contingency). The combination of multiple mental health conditions plus asthma could strengthen her case, especially if you can document how they interact to further limit her functioning.
This is incredibly helpful, thank you! I'm going to start gathering all this documentation right away. One more question - she's currently on my health insurance (thankfully). If she gets approved for disability, would she eventually qualify for Medicare or Medicaid? I'm wondering how her healthcare would work long-term.
With SSDI, she would get Medicare after 24 months of receiving benefits. With SSI, she would likely get Medicaid immediately in most states. Either way, she would eventually have health coverage, which is important for maintaining the treatment she needs. One thing I haven't seen mentioned yet: make sure her doctors are specifically documenting how her conditions limit her ability to work. Many doctors focus on symptoms and treatment but don't explicitly address work capacity in their notes. You might want to ask her providers to complete a Medical Source Statement or Residual Functional Capacity form that specifically addresses work-related limitations. Also, if she's denied initially (which is common), don't give up! Request reconsideration within 60 days, and if denied again, request a hearing before an Administrative Law Judge. Success rates increase significantly at the hearing level, especially with proper representation.
Thank you for this information about healthcare coverage - that's been a major concern. I'll definitely talk to her therapist about documenting work limitations specifically. Would it be helpful to get statements from previous employers about the accommodations they tried to make for her and why they weren't sufficient?
Mei Lin
Great to see you got through to SSA and have an appointment scheduled! Just wanted to add a couple things that might be helpful for your meeting: 1. If you can find any old tax returns from when you were married, those might have his SSN on them (joint returns would show both). Even if you don't have them, it's not necessary since SSA confirmed they can find his record without it. 2. Since you mentioned he earned "almost triple" what you did, you're likely looking at a significant increase. At FRA, survivor benefits aren't reduced, so you should get 100% of what he was entitled to (or what he was receiving if he had already claimed). 3. Don't forget to ask about Medicare implications if you're eligible - sometimes survivor benefit changes can affect Medicare premiums. Really hoping this works out for you and provides the financial relief you need. Keep us posted after your appointment!
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Dylan Hughes
•This is really helpful advice! I never thought about looking for old tax returns - I might actually have some stored away in my filing cabinet from our married years. Even if they don't help with the SSN issue, they could serve as additional proof of our marriage duration and his higher earnings. Thanks for mentioning the Medicare angle too - I'm not quite 65 yet but will be soon, so that's definitely something I should ask about during my appointment.
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Lucas Adams
So glad you were able to get through and have an appointment scheduled! This is exactly the kind of situation where the SSA's ability to locate records with basic information really shines. Since you mentioned you were married for 17 years (well over the 10-year requirement) and never remarried, you're in a strong position for approval. One thing to keep in mind - since you're already receiving your own reduced benefit that you took at 62, the survivor benefit calculation will be separate. You'll essentially switch from your current benefit to the higher survivor benefit if eligible. The good news is that taking your own benefit early won't reduce the survivor benefit amount. Wishing you the best of luck at your appointment! This could be life-changing financially, and it sounds like you have all the documentation you need.
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