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Congratulations on getting this sorted out! This is a perfect example of why it's so important to advocate for yourself when dealing with government agencies. The first representative clearly didn't understand the rules around divorced spouse benefits and federal pensions. For anyone else reading this thread who might face similar issues: always ask for a supervisor or technical expert if the information you're getting doesn't align with what you've researched or sounds inconsistent. SSA representatives are human and can make mistakes, especially with complex scenarios involving federal employment and divorced spouse benefits. Your persistence really paid off here, and I'm sure this thread will help other people in similar situations who might get incorrect information initially.
This is such an important point! I'm new to navigating Social Security and this whole thread has been eye-opening. It's really concerning that the first representative gave such wrong information about something so significant. I'm wondering - is there a way to report when reps give incorrect information like this? It seems like other people could be getting turned away when they're actually entitled to benefits. Also, are there any reliable resources or websites where we can double-check information before or after SSA appointments to make sure we're getting accurate guidance?
I started my benefits last year at 62 and I made sure to stay juuuust under the earnings limit. My sister went over by accident and they sent her this scary letter and stopped her benefits for like 3 months! Just keep really good track of what your earning. My boss was cool about it and would let me know when I was getting close to the limit so I could take time off if needed.
That's good advice about tracking earnings carefully! One thing to add though - I've found the SSA's my Social Security online account is really helpful for this. You can check your reported earnings throughout the year to make sure you're staying under the limit. It's not real-time, but it helps catch potential problems before they become big issues at tax time.
Just wanted to add one more important detail that I learned the hard way - make sure you report ALL income sources to SSA when you apply, not just your main job. I forgot to mention some occasional weekend work I did helping neighbors with yard cleanups, and it came back to bite me during their annual review. Even cash payments count toward the earnings limit! Also, if you're getting any 1099 income (like if the garden center classifies you as a contractor instead of an employee), that counts too. The SSA gets copies of all your tax documents anyway, so it's better to be upfront about everything from the start.
This is such an important point that I wish someone had told me earlier! I only work at the garden center, but they do sometimes pay me cash for small side jobs like helping customers load plants into their cars or doing some weekend cleanup work. I never thought about that counting toward the earnings limit. Do you know if there's a minimum amount for cash payments that I need to report, or is it literally every dollar? I definitely don't want to get in trouble later for not disclosing something.
One thing I didn't see mentioned - make sure you understand how working affects your survivor benefits if you're planning to continue working. Since you're under full retirement age, there's an earnings limit ($22,320 for 2025), and they deduct $1 for every $2 you earn above that limit. This doesn't apply after you reach your full retirement age. Also, the survivor benefit amount is based on several factors: your age when you claim, whether your husband had already started his benefits, and if he hadn't, whether you claim before or after his full retirement age. It can get confusing, so don't hesitate to ask the interviewer to explain exactly how your benefit amount was calculated.
I'm so sorry for your loss, and I completely understand the anxiety around this process. I went through my survivor benefits interview about 18 months ago, and while it was nerve-wracking beforehand, the actual interview was much more straightforward than I expected. A few additional tips that helped me: - Have a glass of water nearby during the call. When you're nervous, your mouth can get dry and it helps to stay hydrated. - If you don't understand something they're explaining, it's perfectly okay to say "Could you repeat that more slowly?" or "I want to make sure I understand - are you saying...?" They're used to people needing clarification. - The representatives are generally patient and understanding. Remember, they deal with grieving spouses regularly and know this is a difficult time. Regarding your earnings, since you're under the $22,320 limit, you should be fine. Just be honest about your work situation - they appreciate transparency. You've gotten excellent advice here about the "restrict to widow's benefits only" language. The fact that you're prepared with the right terminology puts you way ahead of where I was! You're going to do better than you think. Please do update us after your interview - it might help the next person going through this.
One last thing to consider: if your ex-spouse passes away before you claim benefits, the rules change. As a surviving divorced spouse, you could claim survivor benefits as early as age 60 (or 50 if disabled). Survivor benefits are different from ex-spousal benefits. Not something to hope for, of course, but important to know in case that situation arises.
I just went through this exact process last year! I was 61 when I started researching and had to wait until 62 just like you. One tip that really helped me: about 3-4 months before your 62nd birthday, you can actually start the application process. Don't wait until the day you turn 62 because processing can take time. Also, since you mentioned struggling financially, look into whether your state has a Senior Community Service Employment Program (SCSEP). It's specifically for people 55+ with lower incomes and can provide part-time work and training while you're waiting to be eligible for benefits. I found it through my local Area Agency on Aging and it really helped bridge the gap. The waiting is hard, but you're so close! Just two and a half more years and you'll have that extra financial security.
Thank you so much for this practical advice! I had no idea you could start the application process before actually turning 62 - that's really helpful to know. And I've never heard of SCSEP but I'll definitely look into it. It sounds like exactly what I need to help get through these next couple of years. It's encouraging to hear from someone who actually went through this process recently. Did you end up claiming at 62 or did you wait longer?
Darren Brooks
Just wanted to add that if you do hit a big jackpot on the cruise, make sure to keep all your documentation! The cruise ship will give you forms, but it's also smart to take photos of any paperwork and keep receipts. When tax time comes around, you'll need to report it properly. Also, if you're planning to gamble regularly in retirement (not just this one cruise), you might want to consult with a tax professional about how it could affect your overall tax situation year over year. But for a one-time celebration jackpot - go for it and enjoy! The earnings test won't be impacted.
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Max Reyes
•This is really solid advice! I hadn't thought about taking photos of the paperwork - that's a great tip. And you're right, for a one-time celebration cruise it shouldn't be a big deal. I'm definitely not planning to become a regular gambler, just want to have some fun on this special trip. Thanks for mentioning the tax professional consultation idea too - if I do get lucky, that might be worth considering!
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Omar Fawaz
As someone who recently went through the early retirement process at 62, I can confirm what others have said - gambling winnings won't affect your Social Security earnings test! I was worried about the same thing when I won $3,200 at a local casino right after I started collecting benefits. The SSA only counts wages and self-employment income for the earnings limit. However, do keep in mind that large winnings could bump you into a higher tax bracket for that year and potentially make more of your Social Security benefits taxable. But honestly, that's still a good problem to have! Enjoy your cruise and don't let tax worries stop you from having fun - just be prepared to set aside some money for taxes if you do hit it big.
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