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Laila Prince

Social Security earnings limit confusion with quarterly commission payments at 62 - how will SSA count my income?

I'm helping my brother figure out Social Security and we're confused about how the earnings limit works with his irregular income. He turned 62 last month and wants to apply for SS retirement in July. His current job pays him in a weird way that's making it hard to plan for the earnings limit ($2260/month for 2025). He gets paid twice monthly on a low base hourly wage (about $1400/month total), but then gets quarterly commission checks that can be pretty big ($5000-7000). The problem is, he has no idea which months these commissions actually count for with Social Security. If we just divide his quarterly commission by 3, he'll be over the monthly limit for several months. But if the commissions could somehow be attributed to specific months, he might only exceed the limit for 2-3 months total this year. Does anyone know: 1. Will SSA require a monthly breakdown of when commissions were earned? 2. Can he just provide his own record of which months the commissions were earned in? 3. Or will the company need to provide some kind of official documentation? We're trying to avoid him losing benefits unnecessarily if there's a way to allocate the income properly. Thanks for any advice!

Isabel Vega

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The answer depends on how SSA counts the income, and generally they follow the "when paid, not when earned" rule. For wages (including commissions), they usually count income in the month you receive it, not when you technically earned it. So if your brother gets a large quarterly commission check in March, June, September, and December, those are the months where his income would spike above the earnings limit. I'd recommend he contact SSA directly about his specific situation, but generally the earnings test for early retirement is based on when you actually receive the money, not when you earned it.

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Laila Prince

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Thanks for explaining that. If it's really just when he gets paid, not when he earned it, that actually works in his favor. He'd only have 4 months over the limit (when quarterly checks arrive) instead of potentially 6-7 months if the commissions were spread out monthly. Is there anything on the SSA website that confirms this? I've been searching and reading about the earnings test but haven't found a clear answer about commission income specifically.

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sameee situation with my husbaand last year!!! SSA counts it for the month u GET PAID not when u earned it. they dont care bout the details just when the $$ hits ur account. his company wont need 2 break it down by month, just show the dates the checks were issued.

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Laila Prince

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That's a relief to hear from someone who's been through it! So when your husband filed his annual report to Social Security, he just reported the actual payment dates and amounts? Did they ask for any documentation from his employer beyond his regular pay stubs?

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Marilyn Dixon

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SSA claims rep here. This is a common question with commission-based workers. The rule is actually straightforward: for the earnings test, wages (including commissions) count when they're PAID, not when they're earned. There are only a few exceptions to this (like farming/self-employment income), but for a W-2 employee receiving commissions, it's the payment date that matters. So if your brother receives those quarterly commission checks in March, June, September and December, only those months would count the commission income. SSA will look at his pay stubs or direct deposit dates as verification. One thing to watch for: if he has a choice of when to receive commissions or can delay payments, any deliberate manipulation of payment timing to avoid the earnings test could be problematic.

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Hey does this apply 2 bonuses too?? My company gives yearly bonus in March for previous years work... does that count for March only??

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Watch out for the yearly earnings total too, not just the monthly! In 2025 the annual limit is $27,120 if you're under Full Retirement Age all year. Even if your brother only has 4 months that exceed the monthly limit, they'll STILL withhold benefits if his total annual earnings exceed that amount. SSA withholds $1 in benefits for every $2 earned above the annual limit. They do the calculation both ways (monthly and annually) and use whichever is more favorable to you.

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TommyKapitz

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This isn't completely right. If he exceeds the monthly limit in ANY month during his first year of retirement, he doesn't get benefits for that month. The annual calculation doesn't help in the first year - it's strictly monthly. After the first year claiming benefits, then they switch to the annual approach.

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I went through HELL with this exact situation last year! The SSA kept giving me different answers depending on who I talked to. One person said commissions count when earned, another said they count when paid. I spent HOURS on hold trying to get a straight answer. Finally got through to a supervisor who confirmed it's when paid, not earned. But when I had to do my annual report, they still questioned my commission dates and I had to provide ALL my pay stubs. The whole system is a nightmare!! I recommend calling early in the morning right when they open - that's the only way I could get through.

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Laila Prince

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Thanks everyone for the helpful responses. This makes our planning much easier. My brother will be just fine if they only count the commission in the actual months he receives the quarterly payments (March, June, September, December). Since he's applying in July, he'd only have 2 months over the limit for 2025 (September and December). That's much better than we feared! Should he mention this commission structure when he applies, or just deal with it when he files his annual report next year?

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Marilyn Dixon

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It's definitely best to mention it during his application. The SSA can make note of his payment structure, and they may provide specific guidance for his situation. Be sure he brings recent pay stubs showing both his regular wages and at least one commission statement if possible. This will help avoid surprises later. Also, make sure he understands he'll need to contact SSA if his earnings situation changes substantially. The earnings test is something that trips up a lot of people.

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One more thing - make sure your brother keeps VERY detailed records of exactly when each payment was received and how much. When he files his annual report to SSA, having those records ready will make the process much smoother. The SSA can request verification from his employer, but having his own documentation ready will speed things up.

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yep! I keep a spreadsheet with ALL my husbands payments, dates, and even make notes bout which were reg salary vs commission. makes the annual reporting SO much easier. also scan all pay stubs!!! SSA lost our paperwork TWICE last year and we had to send it in again.

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Isabel Vega

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Something else worth mentioning: if your brother has already hit his 62nd birthday, he doesn't have to wait until July to apply. He can apply up to 4 months before he wants benefits to begin. So if he wants July benefits, he could apply now and specify July as his benefit start month. This gives SSA time to process the application, which can sometimes take a while. The first payment for July would arrive in August.

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Laila Prince

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That's really helpful! I didn't realize he could apply this far in advance. We're going to get that application in right away and specify July as the start date. Might as well get the ball rolling since it sounds like processing can take some time.

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Jacob Lee

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Just wanted to add a quick note about timing for anyone else in a similar situation - if your brother is planning to start benefits in July, he should also consider what his earnings will look like for the remainder of 2025. Since he'll only be collecting SS for 6 months this year (July-December), the monthly earnings test might actually work out better than the annual test would in future years. Also, when he does his initial application, they'll ask about expected earnings for the year. Make sure he gives them realistic estimates including those quarterly commissions - it's better to overestimate slightly than to have surprise income that triggers overpayments later. SSA hates having to claw back money they've already paid out!

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Sean Matthews

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This is such great advice about overestimating earnings! I made the mistake of underestimating my first year and ended up with an overpayment situation that took months to sort out. SSA was not happy and the paperwork was a nightmare. Better to be conservative with those estimates and get a pleasant surprise later than deal with paying money back. Also, that's a good point about July start meaning only 6 months of benefits in 2025 - gives more room to work with the earnings limits.

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Ryan Kim

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I'm in a very similar situation with irregular commission income! One thing that really helped me was creating a simple tracking spreadsheet from the start. I track every payment date, amount, and type (regular salary vs commission) as soon as I receive it. When I applied for benefits, I brought printouts showing my payment history for the past 6 months and estimates for the rest of the year. The SSA rep was really appreciative that I had everything organized and it made the interview go much smoother. Also, don't stress too much about the earnings test calculations - once you get your first annual report form from SSA, it walks you through everything step by step. The key is just keeping good records from day one so you're not scrambling later to remember when you got paid what amount. Your brother sounds like he's in good shape if he's only looking at 2 months over the limit for 2025!

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This is exactly the kind of practical advice I was hoping to find! Creating a tracking spreadsheet from the beginning is such a smart idea. I'm going to help my brother set something up like that before he applies so we're organized from day one. It's reassuring to hear that the SSA rep appreciated having everything documented - we were worried they might think we were overthinking it. But it sounds like being prepared actually makes their job easier too. Thanks for sharing your experience with the annual report process. It's helpful to know what to expect down the road. With only 2 months projected over the limit, this is definitely more manageable than we initially thought!

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Sophia Miller

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As someone who recently went through this process with quarterly bonuses, I can confirm what others have said - SSA definitely goes by payment date, not when the income was earned. One additional tip: when your brother applies, he should ask the SSA representative to put a note in his file about his quarterly commission structure. This way, when he does his annual earnings report, there's already a record that his income pattern was discussed upfront. It can help avoid questions or delays during the review process. Also, since he's starting benefits mid-year in July, he'll want to be extra careful about those September and December commission months. Even though it's only 2 months over the limit, make sure he reports those expected amounts during his application interview so there are no surprises. Good luck to your brother!

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Javier Torres

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That's such a valuable tip about asking SSA to put a note in his file about the quarterly commission structure! I hadn't thought about that but it makes total sense - having it documented upfront could save a lot of headaches later. We'll definitely make sure to mention that when he applies and ask them to add it to his record. You're absolutely right about being careful with those September and December months. Since those will be his first few months receiving benefits, we want to make sure everything is reported accurately from the start. Better to over-communicate about the commission structure than have them think we're trying to hide something. Thanks for sharing your experience with quarterly bonuses - it's really helpful to hear from people who have actually been through this process!

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