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Got an unexpected deposit from Social Security today - turns out it was my COLA adjustment backpay from April through December! I was completely confused until I checked my new Benefit Verification Letter online (dated April 2025). If you're wondering about yours, here's what I did to figure it out: 1. Downloaded my new Benefit Verification Letter from my SSA account 2. Found the line showing "The regular monthly Social Security payment is..." ($2,140) 3. Compared it to my previous letter from earlier this year ($2,075) 4. The difference was $65 per month 5. The backpay covered 9 months (April-December) = $585 6. They withheld the standard 15% tax I have set up = $497.25 deposit I had completely forgotten they owed me this! The effective date on the letter shows January 2025. Anyone else get their backpay recently? It was a nice surprise after waiting months wondering if they'd ever get around to it.
This is a great question about how Difficulty of Care payments interact with Social Security early retirement benefits. From what I understand, Difficulty of Care payments are generally excluded from the Social Security earnings test because they're considered "in-kind support and maintenance" rather than wages for services. However, there are some important nuances here: 1. The fact that Michigan issues W-2s for these payments is interesting - typically DOC payments aren't subject to FICA taxes, which aligns with what you mentioned. 2. The 45-hour monthly limit you referenced might be related to specific state program guidelines rather than Social Security rules, but it's worth clarifying this directly with SSA. 3. Your small side business income of $2-3K annually is likely well under the 2024 earnings limit ($22,320 for those under full retirement age), so that shouldn't be an issue. I'd strongly recommend calling Social Security directly at 1-800-772-1213 to get official guidance on how your specific DOC arrangement will be treated. You might also want to contact your local Area Agency on Aging or Michigan's Department of Health and Human Services for clarification on the state-specific rules. It's always better to get these clarifications upfront rather than deal with potential overpayment issues later. Have you considered reaching out to SSA yet?
@Luca Romano I have called them - twice. They only thing they said was to report the wages if they are over $1950 per month. When I tried to explain that I was being paid under a medicaid waiver/difficulty of care they had no clue what I meant. The 45 hour per month limit I am refering to - is for Self Employment and substantial services. I will not be reporting this as self employment income, since they are issuing a W-2, but I am concerned that somehow they could say I am techincally self employed, since my son is listed as the employer.
I'm turning my Full Retirement Age on June 2nd, 2025, and I'm trying to figure out exactly when to start my Social Security benefits. I know that taking benefits before FRA results in a reduction, but I'm not clear about the exact timing rules when your birthday falls early in the month. If I apply to start benefits in June (the month I actually reach FRA), will I get my full benefit amount without reduction? Or do I need to wait until July to avoid any potential reduction? The SSA website mentions something about months and birthdays, but it's really confusing me. I don't want to accidentally lose money by filing just a few days too early!
Thank you all for the great information! Just to summarize what I learned so the next person with this question can benefit: 1. Since my FRA is on the 2nd of the month (within the first 10 days), I'm considered to have reached FRA for the entire month 2. I can safely start benefits in June 2025 with NO reduction 3. When applying, I should specifically select June 2025 as my benefit start month 4. My June benefit will actually be paid in July This has been incredibly helpful and saved me from potentially making a costly mistake or having to spend hours trying to reach SSA directly. Thanks again everyone!
You're very welcome! I'm glad we could help clear this up for you. Your summary is perfect and will definitely help future readers who find themselves in the same situation. The birthday timing rules can be really confusing at first, but once you understand them they make sense. Best of luck with your application - you've got all the information you need to do it right! And congratulations on reaching your FRA!
Hi everyone, I'm trying to figure out the right timing to apply for my Social Security retirement benefits. I'll be turning 67 this December (already past my FRA which was 66 and 10 months). I've decided I want my first payment to arrive in February 2025 since that works best with my financial planning and some other income that's ending in January. I know you can apply up to 4 months before, but I'm confused about exactly WHEN I should submit my application to make sure the payments start exactly in February - not January, not March. I don't want to mess this up! Has anyone recently gone through this who can tell me the ideal application date? Should I apply in October? November? Also wondering if it matters whether I apply online or in person at my local office for timing purposes? Thanks for any help!
Thank you everyone for all the fantastic advice! I've learned so much: 1. Apply in October 2024 (4 months before) and specifically select February 2025 as my start month 2. Be aware my February payment will actually arrive in March 3. My payment date will be the 4th Wednesday of each month (since my birthday is the 28th) 4. Have all my work history, marriage/divorce info, and family details ready 5. Consider tax withholding options when I apply 6. Create a my Social Security account to check my benefit amount before applying I feel so much more prepared now! I'll plan to apply online in October, and if I run into phone issues, I'll try that Claimyr service. I really appreciate everyone taking the time to help me understand this process better!
Just wanted to add one more thing that might be helpful - when you do apply online in October, make sure you have a stable internet connection and set aside a good chunk of time (maybe 1-2 hours) to complete the application in one sitting. The system can time out if you're away too long, and while you can save your progress, it's easier to just power through it all at once. Also, double-check that your direct deposit information is correct! A friend of mine had a typo in her account number and it delayed her first payment by almost a month while they sorted it out. The bank routing number and account number have to be exactly right. You sound very well-prepared now - I'm sure everything will go smoothly for you! 🙂
I'm confused about a Social Security payment I received today. Normally, my full SS retirement benefit of $1,890 arrives on the second Wednesday of each month like clockwork (been this way for 3 years). But today, I checked my bank account and found a random deposit of $287.45 from SSA. No explanation, no letter, nothing on my MySocialSecurity account explaining what this is for. I haven't filed anything new or requested any changes. Has this happened to anyone else? Could it be some kind of COLA adjustment or back payment I wasn't aware of? I'm hesitant to spend it in case it's a mistake and they want it back later. Should I call SSA about this or just wait and see if an explanation comes in the mail?
Check if they didnt take out taxes earlier!!!! My brother had extra withholding applied to his acct by mistake after filing a W4-V years ago. They suddenly "fixed" it and sent him back money from earlier this year. No explanation til he got a letter weeks later!!
UPDATE: You all were right! I finally got a letter in the mail today explaining the payment. It was indeed a Medicare IRMAA adjustment based on my 2023 tax return showing lower income than 2021. They had me in a higher premium bracket and are refunding the difference for the first part of 2024. Mystery solved! Thank you all for your help and suggestions!
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Thanks everyone for the explanations! I'm glad to know I'm not the only one who was confused by this random deposit. Just as an update - I called my local SSA office this morning (got lucky and got through), and they confirmed it was indeed the COLA backpay. They also said they're still processing these for many people, so don't worry if you haven't received yours yet.
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Jamal Anderson
wow u got thru to them?? ive been trying for like a week!!
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Zoe Papanikolaou
Just wanted to add my experience - I'm a newcomer here but this post was super helpful! I got a similar deposit last week and had no idea what it was. After reading this I checked my benefit verification letter and sure enough, it was COLA backpay for 6 months. Mine went from $1,890 to $1,948 (about 3.1% like someone mentioned). Really appreciate everyone sharing their experiences - makes navigating all this SSA stuff less confusing when you're new to it all!
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