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Don't forget that if she buys a home and has money LEFT OVER after the purchase, that excess will count toward her $2000 resource limit!! Also, if the stocks are worth a lot, she might still go over the limit even with the home purchase. The SSI program is designed to TRAP people in poverty!
That's true about leftover funds, but there are other excluded resources she could consider for any excess, like burial funds (up to $1,500), home improvements, or even ABLE accounts depending on when her disability began. She should definitely discuss all options with a benefits counselor before making any decisions.
This is really helpful additional information! I didn't know about ABLE accounts - is there an age or disability onset requirement for those? Also, for the burial funds exclusion, does that have to be in a separate dedicated account or can it just be designated funds in her regular account? We want to make sure she has all her options mapped out before she starts the home buying process.
Just to update everyone on the timeline: once you submit the new W-4V form, it typically takes the SSA about 4-6 weeks to process the change. The new withholding rate will apply to payments after processing is complete. If you're concerned about owing taxes for 2025, you could also make quarterly estimated tax payments directly to the IRS to supplement your withholding until the new rate kicks in.
I submitted my new W-4V form requesting 12% withholding yesterday via certified mail. Thanks everyone for your help! I'll keep an eye on my deposits to see when the new rate takes effect. Really wish the SSA would make this information more accessible online - seems like a simple thing they could add to our accounts.
Good call on the certified mail! I always recommend that for important SSA documents. You might also want to keep a copy of the form and the certified mail receipt for your records. If the processing takes longer than expected, you'll have proof of when you submitted it. The quarterly estimated payment option is also smart if you're really worried about owing too much - better safe than sorry when it comes to taxes!
One thing to keep in mind - if you're making the change this late in the year, you might want to calculate how much extra withholding you'll actually get for 2025. Since it takes 4-6 weeks to process and we're already in late March, you'll only have about 8-9 months of the higher withholding rate. If you're significantly under-withheld, you might still want to make a quarterly estimated payment for Q2 to avoid underpayment penalties. The IRS generally wants you to pay 90% of your current year tax liability or 100% of last year's (110% if your prior year AGI was over $150k) to avoid penalties.
That's a really important point about the timing! I hadn't thought about how starting the change in late March would affect the total withholding for the year. Since I was only at 7% and switching to 12%, that extra 5% over 8-9 months might not be enough to cover what I'll owe. I should probably look into making a Q2 estimated payment just to be safe. Do you know if there's a penalty for underpaying if it's your first year receiving Social Security benefits, or does the IRS treat new retirees any differently?
I recommend you get something in writing. Call and specifically request a 'benefits verification letter' that shows the breakdown of SSDI and SSI. This is more reliable than what representatives tell you over the phone. Given what you described, it sounds like your sister will receive around $425 in SSDI as a Disabled Adult Child benefit on your father's record, and then a reduced SSI payment to bring her up to the maximum allowed total. The mySSA account will eventually catch up, but official letters are your best bet for accurate information.
I'm going through something similar with my nephew right now after his mom passed. One thing that really helped us was keeping a detailed log of every conversation with SSA - date, time, representative name if they give it, and exactly what they said about the amounts. When we had three different reps give us three different calculations, I brought this log to our local office and the supervisor was able to see the inconsistencies and get us connected with someone who could actually pull up the detailed calculations. Also, don't be afraid to ask the representative to explain WHERE they're getting their numbers from - sometimes they're looking at preliminary calculations vs. finalized amounts. The whole process took about 5 months to fully settle for us, but having that documentation really helped speed things up once we escalated it.
This is such great information! I'm in a similar situation - turning 66 next year and wondering about working past FRA. From reading all these responses, it sounds like the key takeaway is: NO earnings limit once you reach your Full Retirement Age, which is fantastic news for those of us who want to keep working. One question I have though - does anyone know if there are any tax implications to be aware of? Like, will having both Social Security benefits AND work income push me into a higher tax bracket? I'm trying to plan ahead financially and want to make sure I understand the full picture before making my decision. Also, @Olivia Kay, it sounds like you're in a really good position to keep working and building up that college fund for your grandson while also potentially increasing your future SS benefits. That's awesome!
Great question about tax implications! Yes, there can definitely be tax considerations when you have both Social Security benefits and work income. If your "combined income" (adjusted gross income + nontaxable interest + half of your Social Security benefits) exceeds certain thresholds, you may have to pay taxes on up to 85% of your Social Security benefits. For 2025, those thresholds are typically around $25,000 for single filers and $32,000 for married filing jointly for the first tier, and $34,000/$44,000 respectively for the higher tier. The good news is that even if you do owe taxes on your benefits, you're not losing them - you're just paying income tax on a portion. And having higher overall income, even if it means paying more taxes, usually still leaves you better off financially than having lower income. I'd definitely recommend talking to a tax professional about your specific situation to plan accordingly. You might want to consider adjusting your withholdings or making quarterly estimated tax payments to avoid a big bill at tax time.
This thread has been incredibly helpful! I'm 64 and was considering claiming early at 62 but after reading all these responses, I'm thinking I should wait until my FRA at 66 and 10 months. The fact that there's NO earnings limit after FRA is huge for me since I love my job and want to keep working. One thing I'm curious about - does anyone know how quickly SSA recalculates your benefits if you keep working after claiming? Like if I start collecting at FRA but then have a really good earning year, will my monthly benefit automatically increase the following year? Or do I need to contact them to request a recalculation? Also want to echo what others have said about using that Claimyr service to actually talk to someone at SSA. The wait times when calling directly are absolutely brutal, so having a way to get through faster sounds like a lifesaver!
Great question about the recalculation timing! From what I understand, SSA automatically recalculates your benefits once a year, typically in the fall, if your recent earnings would result in a higher benefit amount. You don't need to contact them to request it - they review everyone's earnings record annually and make adjustments automatically. The recalculation uses your highest 35 years of earnings, so if your new work year replaces a lower-earning year from your past, your benefit will increase starting the following year. However, the timing can vary - sometimes the increase shows up in October/November, sometimes it takes until the following January. If you think you should have gotten an increase but didn't see one, that's when you'd want to contact SSA to ask them to review your record. But in most cases, it happens automatically without you having to do anything! And yes, definitely agree about Claimyr - I've heard great things about it for actually getting through to speak with someone at SSA without the endless hold times.
NebulaNova
Thank you everyone for the helpful responses! To summarize what I've learned: 1. I CAN work during my first month of eligibility (month after turning 62) 2. I need to stay under the monthly earnings limit of $2,340 for 2025 3. SSA counts gross wages when EARNED, not when paid 4. After my first year on benefits, they'll switch to an annual test I'll be careful to reduce my hours enough to stay safely under the limit. My birthday is mid-month so my first eligible month will be the following month. I appreciate everyone sharing their experiences and knowledge!
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Mateo Hernandez
•You've got it exactly right! One more tip: keep very good records of your earnings during that first year. Sometimes employers report wages in a way that doesn't match when you actually earned them, which can cause confusion with SSA. Having your own documentation can help resolve any issues that might come up later.
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Rachel Clark
Great summary! One additional point that might be helpful - if you do accidentally exceed the monthly earnings limit in your first year, don't panic. SSA will send you a notice and you'll just need to repay the benefits for that specific month. It's not the end of the world, though obviously it's better to avoid it. Also, since you mentioned your HR department gave you conflicting information, you might want to double-check with them about how they report wages to SSA. Some payroll systems report earnings based on pay date rather than work date, which could affect your calculations. Make sure you're both on the same page about when your earnings will be reported for each month. Good luck with your retirement planning!
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