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As someone who works with disability claims, I want to emphasize that your sister should also be prepared for the appeals process if needed. Initial SSDI applications are denied about 65% of the time, even for legitimate claims. If she gets denied initially, don't give up! The reconsideration and hearing levels have much higher approval rates. Keep all her medical records organized and make sure her doctors are documenting how her rheumatoid arthritis specifically prevents her from performing her nursing duties. The key is showing she cannot do her past work AND cannot adjust to other work given her age, education, and limitations. With 35+ years of work history and a solid medical condition like severe RA, she has a strong case - just be patient with the process.
This is really valuable advice about the appeals process - I had no idea the denial rate was so high initially! I'll make sure my sister knows not to get discouraged if she gets denied at first. She's been keeping detailed records from her rheumatologist and orthopedist, so hopefully that helps. The part about showing she can't do her past nursing work is especially helpful since RA really affects her ability to lift patients and be on her feet for long shifts. Thank you for the encouragement about her having a strong case!
Just want to add that your sister should also consider whether she has any private disability insurance through her nursing job that she might need to coordinate with SSDI. Some employer policies require you to apply for Social Security disability and will offset their payments accordingly. Also, if she's been paying into a state disability program, she should check if that affects her SSDI eligibility or timing. It's worth reviewing all her insurance policies before the SSDI approval comes through to make sure she's maximizing all available benefits and understands any coordination requirements.
That's a great point about private disability insurance! I'll have her check with HR at the hospital to see what policies she had through work. She mentioned something about short-term disability when she first stopped working, but I'm not sure if there's long-term coverage that would interact with SSDI. Better to know all this upfront rather than be surprised later. Thanks for thinking of that detail!
Here's a simplified explanation of your situation: 1. January-May 2025 (before FRA): Higher annual earnings limit applies (approximately $60,000 adjusted for 2025 COLA) 2. June 2025 and beyond (FRA attained): No earnings limits whatsoever The monthly earnings limit only applies in a non-FRA year when you have a "grace year" - the first year you retire and claim benefits mid-year. This is often confused with FRA rules. For official verification, see SSA's page on Special Earnings Limit Rule: https://www.ssa.gov/benefits/retirement/planner/rule.html
Just wanted to add one more important point that hasn't been mentioned yet - make sure you understand how the earnings test calculation works in practice. SSA looks at your ANNUAL earnings for the months before FRA, but they deduct benefits on a monthly basis if you exceed the limit. So if you earn $70,000 from January through May 2025 (exceeding the ~$60K limit), they'll withhold $1 for every $3 over the limit, but they spread that withholding across the remaining months of the year. It's not like they take a lump sum - they adjust your monthly benefit payments. This might affect your cash flow planning even though you'll be within your rights to earn that much.
That's a really important point about the monthly withholding process! I hadn't thought about the cash flow implications. So even though I'm allowed to earn more in my FRA year, if I do exceed the limit in those pre-FRA months, SSA will still reduce my monthly benefit payments for the rest of 2025 to recover the "overage"? That could definitely impact my budget planning. Do you know if there's a way to estimate how much they would withhold per month, or do I need to contact SSA directly for that calculation?
This happened to my sister too! The award letter eventually came and showed that SSA had paid the LTD company directly for the offset (only the SSDI portion, not the full LTD amount). Don't forget that SSDI also has that stupid 5-month waiting period where you don't get any benefits at the beginning of your disability period.
Yes! Finally got through to SSA yesterday after using that Claimyr service someone suggested. The rep confirmed they paid $39,700 directly to the LTD company. When I add the 5-month waiting period ($16k) and attorney fee ($7k), it actually accounts for almost everything. There was also about $2,300 in Medicare premiums that had been deducted. Mystery solved! Now we're just waiting for the official award letter to arrive.
One additional point regarding your question about claiming at 65 - remember that your Medicare enrollment starts at 65 regardless of your Social Security Full Retirement Age. So even if you delay Social Security benefits, you should still sign up for Medicare during your Initial Enrollment Period (which begins 3 months before your 65th birthday). Missing this window can result in permanent premium penalties. This is a common source of confusion since the Full Retirement Age for Social Security and Medicare eligibility age are different.
I'm also approaching retirement and have been dealing with similar SSA website issues. One thing that helped me was clearing my browser cache and cookies completely before trying to log in again. Also, if you're using a saved password, try typing it manually - sometimes autofill doesn't work properly with their site. Another tip: try accessing the site early in the morning (like 6-7 AM) when traffic is lighter. I was able to get in much easier during off-peak hours. Good luck with your retirement planning!
Mei Zhang
This is such a valuable discussion! As someone who's been navigating Social Security planning for my own family, I wanted to add a perspective that might help with your decision-making process. One thing I learned from my financial advisor is to think about this in terms of "Social Security arbitrage." If you're healthy and expect to live well into your 80s or beyond, the recalculation benefit that Atticus mentioned becomes really important. Essentially, you're getting an 8% annual increase on your benefit amount for each year you delay past your full retirement age (until age 70), plus the credit for any withheld benefits. But here's the practical reality check: if you need the income NOW to maintain your quality of life, then the math about future adjustments doesn't matter as much. I've seen too many people stress themselves out trying to optimize every dollar when they should be focused on having financial security and peace of mind today. For your specific situation with the missing earnings years, that's absolutely your first priority. Those 3 years could be worth thousands of dollars annually for the rest of your life. Everything else is just fine-tuning compared to getting your benefit calculation correct. My suggestion would be to fix the earnings record first, then reassess your work situation with the correct benefit amount in hand. You might find the decision becomes much clearer once you know your actual numbers!
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Fatima Al-Farsi
•This is exactly the kind of balanced perspective I needed to hear! You're so right about not getting caught up in optimizing every dollar at the expense of peace of mind today. I think I've been overthinking the precision of it all when the reality is I need to focus on what works for my current situation and stress level. Your point about "Social Security arbitrage" is fascinating - I hadn't thought about it in those terms before. But you're absolutely right that if I need the income now to feel financially secure, then future optimization matters less than present peace of mind. I'm definitely taking everyone's advice about prioritizing the earnings record correction first. It sounds like that could have a much bigger impact on my monthly benefit than any of these earnings limit calculations. Once I know what my actual benefit should be, I can make a more informed decision about work. Thank you for helping me see the forest for the trees! Sometimes you need someone to remind you that financial planning should serve your life goals, not become a source of endless stress.
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Simon White
This thread has been incredibly helpful! I'm new to this community and in a similar situation at 64. One aspect I haven't seen mentioned yet is the impact of Medicare premiums if you're already enrolled or planning to enroll soon. When you're receiving Social Security benefits, Medicare Part B premiums are automatically deducted from your monthly payment. But if your benefits are withheld due to excess earnings, you'll need to pay those premiums directly to Medicare, which can be a cash flow surprise that some people don't anticipate. Also, for those considering the "work now, get credited later" approach - don't forget that Medicare premiums increase each year, so even when your benefits are recalculated upward at FRA, a portion of that increase will be offset by higher Medicare costs. Just another factor to consider in the overall equation! The earnings record correction definitely sounds like the highest priority item based on everyone's experiences shared here.
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Anita George
•Welcome to the community, Simon! That's such an important point about Medicare premiums that I completely overlooked. I'm turning 65 next year so Medicare enrollment is definitely on my radar, but I hadn't thought about the cash flow impact if my SS benefits get withheld. Having to suddenly pay those premiums out of pocket while also dealing with reduced SS income could be a real budget strain. This is yet another reason why staying under the earnings limit might make sense for me - it keeps everything predictable and avoids these kinds of cascading financial complications. Between the earnings reduction, taxes, and now potential Medicare premium payment issues, working above the limit is looking less and less appealing. Thanks for adding this perspective - it's exactly the kind of real-world consideration that helps make these decisions clearer!
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