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Giovanni, I'm so sorry for your loss and the frustration you must be feeling about missing out on these benefits for so long. You're absolutely not alone - this happens to far too many people. One thing I want to emphasize that's been touched on but bears repeating: even though you'll face earnings test reductions now, filing for survivor benefits at 63 while working is often still the right financial move. Here's why: 1) The survivor benefit amount is based on what your husband would have received at his full retirement age, not reduced for early claiming like your own benefit would be 2) Even with earnings test withholding, you're establishing your claim and will get credit for those withheld amounts later 3) Most importantly, this allows your own retirement benefit to keep growing with delayed retirement credits until age 70 I'd also suggest asking your SSA representative to run projections showing your total lifetime benefits under different scenarios - taking survivor benefits now vs. waiting, when to potentially switch to your own benefit, etc. Having those numbers in black and white can help you make the best decision. The system really should do better at notifying people about benefits they're eligible for. Your story will hopefully help others who might be in similar situations. Best of luck with your appointment!
Carmen, this is such a comprehensive summary of why filing now makes sense even with the earnings test! I really appreciate how you've laid out the three key reasons - especially the point about survivor benefits being based on full retirement age amounts rather than reduced early benefits. That's a crucial distinction I wasn't fully grasping before. The suggestion about asking for lifetime benefit projections is brilliant too. Having those specific numbers for different scenarios will make the decision so much clearer. I'm definitely going to request that analysis at my appointment. It's reassuring to hear that even with my current income situation, filing now is likely still the right move financially. After missing out on so many years, I was worried I might be making another mistake by applying while still working full-time. But your explanation about establishing the claim and getting credit for withheld amounts later really helps put my mind at ease. Thank you for taking the time to share such detailed advice - it means a lot to have this community's support during what's been a pretty overwhelming process of learning about all these options!
Giovanni, I'm so sorry for your loss and what you've been going through. Your situation really highlights how broken the notification system is - it's unconscionable that SSA doesn't proactively reach out to people about benefits they're entitled to. I wanted to add one more strategy consideration that might be relevant: since you're planning to work until at least 67, you might want to calculate whether it makes sense to delay applying for survivor benefits until you reach your full retirement age (when the earnings test disappears entirely). At that point, you'd get 100% of your survivor benefit with no earnings restrictions, and you could still let your own retirement benefit grow until 70 if that would be higher. The trade-off is losing the partial payments you'd get now (after earnings test reductions) versus waiting for full payments in a few years. Given that you've already missed 11 years, waiting another 4 years might actually maximize your lifetime benefits - especially since you're earning $85k which would significantly reduce your current payments anyway. Definitely ask your SSA rep to run the numbers both ways: applying now with earnings test vs. waiting until FRA. The math might surprise you! Also, document everything at your appointment and don't be afraid to ask for a second opinion or supervisor if anything seems unclear. You've waited this long - make sure you get it right going forward.
I'm new to this community and wanted to add my experience to this incredibly helpful discussion! I'm 60 and have been on SSDI for about 5 years now. My husband just turned 65 and is considering when to file for his retirement benefits. Like everyone else here, I was initially hopeful that I could switch to spousal benefits early since his projected benefit is significantly higher than my current SSDI payment of around $1,400/month. After reading through all these detailed responses, I now understand why I need to wait until my FRA at 67. What really drove the point home was learning about how severe those early filing penalties would be - it sounds like they would completely wipe out any advantage from the higher spousal benefit amount. One question I have for those who've been through this process: should my husband wait until his FRA at 66 and 8 months to file, or would it be okay for him to file now at 65? I'm wondering if his early filing would affect my future spousal benefit calculation when I reach 67. The timing coordination between spouses seems like another layer of complexity to navigate! Thanks to everyone for sharing such detailed, real-world experiences. This thread has been more educational than hours of trying to decode SSA materials!
Welcome to the community, Peyton! Great question about the timing coordination between spouses - this is definitely another important layer to consider. From what I've learned in this thread and my own research, your husband's filing decision will impact your future spousal benefit calculation. If he files early at 65, his benefit will be permanently reduced, and your spousal benefit at your FRA will be based on 50% of his reduced benefit amount rather than his full PIA. However, if he waits until his FRA (66 and 8 months), your spousal benefit would be based on his unreduced amount. Given that you have 7 more years until your FRA, it might be worth having him wait those extra 20 months to maximize both his benefit and your future spousal benefit. Of course, you'd need to weigh that against the income you'd forgo by him not collecting for those 20 months. This might be a good situation to run some calculations or consult with a financial advisor who specializes in Social Security planning!
As someone new to this community, I wanted to share my own experience and thank everyone for this incredibly informative discussion! I'm 57 and have been receiving SSDI for about 3 years now (getting around $1,350/month). My husband is 63 and we've been trying to figure out the optimal timing for his retirement filing. Like so many others here, I initially thought there might be a way to access spousal benefits early since his projected benefit will be much higher than my current SSDI. But after reading through all the real-world experiences shared in this thread, it's crystal clear that waiting until my FRA at 67 is the only smart financial move. Those early filing reduction penalties would essentially eliminate any advantage. What I find most valuable about this discussion is hearing from people who actually went through this process rather than trying to interpret the confusing SSA website materials. The practical tips about setting up a my Social Security account in advance, calling 3 months before FRA, and asking representatives to walk through calculations are incredibly helpful. One thing I'm still figuring out is whether my husband should file at his FRA or wait even longer to maximize delayed retirement credits. Since I have 10 more years until my FRA, we have some time to strategize, but it's good to understand all the moving pieces now. Thank you all for creating such a comprehensive resource - this thread should be required reading for anyone dealing with SSDI and spousal benefit planning!
One thing that might help with the payment timing is to set up a small emergency buffer in your checking account if possible. I learned this the hard way when I first retired - having even just $200-300 extra cushion made the transition to the Wednesday payment schedule much less stressful. Also, if you use online banking, most banks will let you schedule your bill payments to go out automatically a day or two after your SS deposit hits. Takes the guesswork out of timing everything perfectly. The first few months of retirement take some adjustment, but you'll get into a rhythm with the payment schedule pretty quickly!
This is such great advice! I'm still about 8 months away from retirement but I'm trying to get all these logistics figured out now. The buffer account idea is really smart - I hadn't thought about that. Do you know if there are any good resources or worksheets for planning out the timing of all your retirement income sources? Between my federal pension coming on the 1st and SS coming on the 4th Wednesday, I want to make sure I map everything out properly before I actually retire.
@Liam O'Sullivan - For retirement planning resources, I'd recommend checking out the Social Security Administration's retirement planner on their website (ssa.gov) which has tools to estimate your benefits and timing. The Federal Retirement Thrift Investment Board also has good planning materials for federal employees. Many financial advisors offer free retirement income timing worksheets too. Since you have 8 months, you might also want to attend one of those federal employee retirement seminars - they usually cover exactly this kind of income coordination between FERS pension and Social Security. Smart of you to plan this out ahead of time!
As someone who just went through this process last year, I wanted to add that you can actually check your exact payment date in advance by creating a my Social Security account online at ssa.gov. Once you're signed up for benefits, it shows your specific payment schedule for the entire year. This was super helpful for me because I could plan out my budget months in advance and coordinate with my bank about automatic bill pay timing. Also, if there's ever a federal holiday that falls on your normal payment Wednesday, they typically pay the day before - but the online account will show you those adjusted dates too. The my Social Security portal is really underutilized but has tons of useful info once you get it set up!
This is incredibly helpful information! I had no idea about the my Social Security account showing the full year schedule in advance. That's exactly what I need for planning purposes. Quick question - when you set up the account, did you need any special documentation beyond the usual SSN and personal info? And does it show if there are any delays due to holidays or other issues? I'm definitely going to get this set up before I retire so I can coordinate everything properly with my other income sources.
I'm so sorry for your loss, Ravi. Dealing with Social Security paperwork while grieving is incredibly difficult, but you're asking all the right questions. Yes, both your mother and stepmother can absolutely receive survivor benefits from your father's record. This is one of those situations where Social Security actually works in favor of families - multiple survivors can collect without reducing each other's benefits. Here's what you need to know: - Your mom qualifies as a divorced spouse (15-year marriage exceeds the 10-year minimum, and she never remarried) - Your stepmom qualifies as the surviving widow (married at time of death) - Both must apply separately using Form SSA-10 - Each will need: death certificate, their marriage certificate, and your mom will also need the divorce decree Important timing consideration: Your mom at 67 can get 100% of the survivor benefit, but your stepmom at 62 would only get about 81% if she claims now. If your stepmom can wait until her full retirement age (around 66-67), she'd get the full amount. Before applying, both should check their own benefit estimates on my.ssa.gov to make sure survivor benefits would actually be higher than their own retirement benefits. The process can be frustrating with phone wait times, but don't give up. Your father worked hard for these benefits, and both women are entitled to them. Take care of yourself during this difficult time.
Thank you, Mei. This has been really helpful. I think I have a much clearer picture now of what both my mom and stepmom need to do. The timing aspect seems really crucial - it sounds like my mom should definitely apply soon since she's already 67, but my stepmom might want to think carefully about whether she can afford to wait a few more years to get closer to that 100% benefit amount. That 19% difference between claiming at 62 vs full retirement age could really add up over time. I'm going to help both of them create those my.ssa.gov accounts this week to check their own benefits first, then we can move forward with the applications. Thanks for being so thorough and compassionate - it really means a lot during this difficult time.
I'm deeply sorry for your loss, Ravi. Losing a parent is never easy, and having to navigate Social Security benefits during such a difficult time adds extra stress to an already overwhelming situation. The great news is that both your mother and stepmother can absolutely receive survivor benefits from your father's record simultaneously. This is actually one of the more family-friendly aspects of Social Security - multiple qualified survivors can draw benefits without reducing what the others receive. Your situation breaks down like this: - Your mom qualifies for divorced spouse survivor benefits (married 15 years, which exceeds the 10-year requirement, and never remarried) - Your stepmother qualifies as the surviving widow (married to your father at the time of his death) Both will need to apply separately using Form SSA-10 and provide the necessary documentation: death certificate, their respective marriage certificates, and your mom will also need the divorce decree. One crucial point about timing: your mom at 67 can receive the full 100% survivor benefit, but your stepmother at 62 would only receive about 81% if she claims immediately. If your stepmother can afford to wait until closer to her full retirement age (66-67), she'd get significantly more. Before either applies, I'd strongly recommend they both check their own estimated benefits on my.ssa.gov to ensure the survivor benefits would actually be higher than their own retirement benefits - SSA pays whichever is higher, but not both. Your father earned these benefits through years of hard work, and both women are absolutely entitled to them. Take care of yourself during this process.
Mei Lin
Welcome to the community! As a newcomer, I'm really impressed by how thorough and helpful this discussion has been. Reading through everyone's experiences with the Medicare premium/Social Security transition has been incredibly educational. It's clear that calling Medicare directly before your SS benefits start is the key to avoiding double payments. The step-by-step approach that Caden followed - calling Medicare, getting the timeline, timing the autopay cancellation carefully - seems like the perfect blueprint for anyone facing this transition. I'm bookmarking this thread because even though I won't need this information for a few years, the real-world advice shared here is invaluable. Thank you to everyone who took the time to share their experiences, both the successes and the cautionary tales. This is exactly the kind of community support that makes navigating these complex government systems so much more manageable!
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ThunderBolt7
•Thank you for the warm welcome, Mei Lin! As another newcomer to this community, I'm equally impressed by the wealth of practical knowledge shared here. This thread is like finding a treasure trove of real-world guidance that you simply can't get from official government websites. What really stands out to me is how everyone has been so generous with their time and experiences - from Caden's original question and successful resolution, to the professional insights from Giovanni, to all the follow-up experiences from community members who went through similar transitions. The collective wisdom here about calling Medicare proactively, getting written confirmation, and carefully timing the autopay changes could literally save people hundreds of dollars and countless hours of frustration. I'm also bookmarking this for future reference and hope to contribute similar helpful experiences to the community as I navigate my own journey with these systems. It's wonderful to be part of such a supportive group!
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JaylinCharles
As a newcomer to this community, I'm absolutely amazed by the wealth of practical knowledge shared in this thread! Reading through everyone's experiences with the Medicare premium/Social Security transition has been incredibly eye-opening. I had no idea that SSA and Medicare don't automatically communicate about payment arrangements - that seems like such a basic coordination issue that you'd expect the government to have figured out by now! The step-by-step approach that emerged from this discussion (calling Medicare 1-2 months before SS benefits start, getting written confirmation of the switch timeline, carefully timing autopay cancellation, and monitoring both accounts during transition) is pure gold. Caden's proactive approach and successful resolution really demonstrates how much smoother things go when you plan ahead rather than just hoping the systems work together automatically. I'm bookmarking this entire thread as a reference guide - even though I won't need this information for several years, the real-world experiences shared here are far more valuable than anything I could find on official government websites. Thank you to everyone who took the time to share both your successes and cautionary tales. This is exactly the kind of community support that makes navigating complex bureaucratic transitions so much more manageable!
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Isaac Wright
•Welcome to the community, JaylinCharles! You've perfectly captured what makes this thread so valuable - it's the real-world experiences and practical solutions that you just can't find anywhere else. As someone who's also new here, I'm struck by how this discussion has evolved from one person's specific question into a comprehensive guide that could help countless others facing the same transition. Your point about the lack of coordination between SSA and Medicare systems is so true - it really does seem like something the government should have streamlined by now! But until they do, having community wisdom like this is absolutely invaluable. The fact that so many people have shared both their successful strategies and their costly mistakes creates such a complete picture of what to expect. I love how this demonstrates the power of community knowledge-sharing - turning what could be a stressful bureaucratic maze into a clear, manageable process. Thanks for adding your perspective as a fellow newcomer!
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