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Great to see you got through to SSA and have an appointment scheduled! Just wanted to add a couple things that might be helpful for your meeting: 1. If you can find any old tax returns from when you were married, those might have his SSN on them (joint returns would show both). Even if you don't have them, it's not necessary since SSA confirmed they can find his record without it. 2. Since you mentioned he earned "almost triple" what you did, you're likely looking at a significant increase. At FRA, survivor benefits aren't reduced, so you should get 100% of what he was entitled to (or what he was receiving if he had already claimed). 3. Don't forget to ask about Medicare implications if you're eligible - sometimes survivor benefit changes can affect Medicare premiums. Really hoping this works out for you and provides the financial relief you need. Keep us posted after your appointment!

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This is really helpful advice! I never thought about looking for old tax returns - I might actually have some stored away in my filing cabinet from our married years. Even if they don't help with the SSN issue, they could serve as additional proof of our marriage duration and his higher earnings. Thanks for mentioning the Medicare angle too - I'm not quite 65 yet but will be soon, so that's definitely something I should ask about during my appointment.

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So glad you were able to get through and have an appointment scheduled! This is exactly the kind of situation where the SSA's ability to locate records with basic information really shines. Since you mentioned you were married for 17 years (well over the 10-year requirement) and never remarried, you're in a strong position for approval. One thing to keep in mind - since you're already receiving your own reduced benefit that you took at 62, the survivor benefit calculation will be separate. You'll essentially switch from your current benefit to the higher survivor benefit if eligible. The good news is that taking your own benefit early won't reduce the survivor benefit amount. Wishing you the best of luck at your appointment! This could be life-changing financially, and it sounds like you have all the documentation you need.

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I'm so grateful I found this discussion before making what could have been a costly mistake! Like many others here, I was planning to start Social Security at 65 thinking that was the "normal" retirement age, but clearly I had outdated information. The advice from the SSA professionals and financial planner has been invaluable. I now understand that for a June 28th birthday, you'd select July as your start month, but more importantly, that taking benefits at 65 instead of waiting until FRA of 67 means a permanent 13% reduction - that's huge money over a lifetime! I had no idea that Medicare and Social Security were separate programs. Being able to enroll in Medicare at 65 while delaying Social Security until 67 or even 70 seems like the smart financial move for most people who can afford to wait. I'm definitely going to use that SSA retirement estimator tool that everyone keeps mentioning to see the actual dollar impact before making any decisions. It sounds like taking time to really understand these numbers could mean the difference between financial comfort and struggling in retirement. Thanks to everyone who shared their expertise and personal experiences - this thread should be required reading for anyone approaching 65!

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I'm in the exact same boat as you and everyone else who's commented here! I was all set to apply for Social Security at 65 thinking it was just the normal thing to do, but this thread has been a real wake-up call. The information about the 13% permanent reduction for taking benefits early is something I wish was more widely publicized - I had absolutely no clue about this! What really hit home for me was the financial planner's advice about calculating the lifetime impact. When you think about potentially losing hundreds of dollars every month for 20+ years of retirement, it really makes you want to reconsider the timing. I'm definitely going to spend some time with that retirement estimator tool before making any moves. The separation between Medicare and Social Security enrollment is probably the most useful thing I've learned here. I was worried about missing deadlines, but knowing I can handle them separately takes a lot of pressure off and gives me more flexibility in planning. Thanks to everyone who shared their knowledge - this discussion has potentially saved me from making a very expensive mistake!

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I'm approaching 65 myself and this entire discussion has been absolutely invaluable! Like so many others here, I was operating under the assumption that 65 was still the standard retirement age and was planning to start Social Security benefits right away. The clarity everyone has provided about selecting July (the month after your June 28th birthday) makes perfect sense now - you need to be 65 for the entire month to be eligible for that month's benefits. But the real eye-opener has been learning about the permanent 13% reduction for taking benefits before Full Retirement Age of 67. That's a substantial amount of money to give up for life! The advice about separating Medicare enrollment (which should happen at 65) from Social Security timing is particularly helpful since it gives us more flexibility in our planning. I had never heard of the SSA retirement estimator tool that everyone keeps mentioning, but I'm definitely going to use it to see the actual dollar impact before making any decisions. The stories from people who took benefits early and regretted it, versus those who waited and benefited financially, are really compelling. Thank you to all the SSA professionals, financial planners, and people who've been through this process for sharing your expertise. This thread should honestly be pinned as a resource for anyone approaching retirement - it's filled with exactly the kind of practical, real-world advice that's hard to find elsewhere!

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I'm so glad I stumbled upon this thread too! I've been putting off dealing with my Social Security application because the whole process seemed overwhelming, but reading through everyone's experiences has given me a much clearer roadmap. Like you and so many others here, I was completely unaware that 65 wasn't actually the full retirement age anymore - it's crazy how that outdated information is still so widespread! The point about the permanent 13% reduction really stuck with me. When I think about my monthly budget in retirement, losing that much money every month for the rest of my life could make a real difference in my quality of life. The fact that Medicare and Social Security can be handled separately is such a relief too - I was stressed about coordinating everything at once. I'm definitely going to bookmark this thread and use that retirement estimator tool before making any decisions. It's amazing how much valuable information came out of one person's simple question about start months. Thanks to everyone who took the time to share their knowledge - this kind of community wisdom is exactly what we need when navigating these complex systems!

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I'm so sorry for your loss. This is such a challenging situation to navigate while grieving. I went through something similar when my brother passed and left behind his disabled son. A few practical tips that might help: Start gathering ALL medical documentation NOW - not just recent stuff, but everything from childhood diagnoses, school IEPs, therapy records, everything. SSA wants a complete picture of how the disability affects daily living and work capacity. Also, consider getting a letter from her current doctors specifically addressing her ability to work. They need to understand not just the diagnosis, but how it impacts her functional capacity. One thing that caught me off guard was that they may want to do their own medical evaluation even with extensive records. Don't be surprised if they schedule her for additional appointments. The good news is that with a well-documented case like Down Syndrome, approval rates are generally good. The frustrating part is just the bureaucratic timeline. Stay on top of deadlines and don't hesitate to call if you don't hear back when they say you will. Hang in there - you're doing everything right by planning ahead!

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This is really comprehensive advice, thank you! I hadn't thought about getting a specific letter from her doctors about work capacity - that's a great point. We have tons of medical records but they're scattered across different providers over the years. I'm going to start organizing everything into one folder this weekend. The part about them potentially wanting their own evaluation is good to know too. Did your nephew have to go through that additional evaluation, and if so, how did it go?

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I'm really sorry for your loss - navigating all this while grieving must be incredibly overwhelming. I'm a disability benefits advocate and see families go through this transition regularly. Here's what you should know: Your daughter's benefits will likely continue after 18 since Down Syndrome typically qualifies for adult disabled child benefits, but there WILL be a gap while they process the adult disability determination. This is unavoidable - even with clear-cut cases like Down Syndrome. For your benefits at 62, you're currently receiving "child-in-care" benefits which end when she turns 18 (or if her disability continues, when she's no longer in your care). At that point, you can switch to either widow's benefits (reduced at 62) or your own retirement benefit - whichever is higher. Here's my strongest recommendation: Start the process 6+ months early AND consider consulting with a disability attorney who offers free consultations. They can help ensure all paperwork is complete and may even represent her for free if needed (they only get paid if she's approved). Also, definitely look into setting up an ABLE account or special needs trust now if you haven't - any inheritance or assets need to be handled carefully to protect her future benefits eligibility. The system is frustrating but manageable with proper planning. You've got time to prepare!

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I recently went through this exact same process and wanted to share what worked for me! I was switching from Chase to a local credit union after 25+ years and was absolutely terrified about my Social Security payments getting disrupted. Here's the approach that gave me complete peace of mind: 1) I scheduled an appointment with my new credit union specifically to discuss the direct deposit change - they walked me through their process and gave me a official direct deposit form with pre-printed account info 2) I called SSA at 1-800-772-1213 (called at 10 AM on a Tuesday, waited about 30 minutes) and spoke with a representative who was incredibly helpful 3) She guided me through the entire process over the phone, read back all my information for confirmation, and gave me a reference number 4) I kept detailed notes of our conversation including her name and the date 5) Kept both accounts open for 8 weeks to be absolutely certain My payment arrived exactly on schedule with zero issues. The combination of having official documentation from my credit union and speaking directly with an SSA representative made me feel completely confident that everything was handled correctly. For anyone still nervous about this process - the phone method really does work well if you're patient with the wait time, and having that human confirmation makes all the difference for peace of mind!

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This is such a comprehensive and reassuring approach! I really appreciate you taking the time to share such detailed steps. The idea of scheduling a specific appointment with the credit union to discuss the direct deposit change is brilliant - I wouldn't have thought to do that, but it makes perfect sense to have their expertise guiding you through their part of the process. Your phone experience with SSA sounds much more positive than some of the horror stories we've heard earlier in this thread. The 30-minute wait time is definitely manageable, and getting that reference number plus the representative's name for your records adds such a professional touch to the whole process. Eight weeks of keeping both accounts open might be the most conservative timeline I've seen mentioned, but honestly, for something this critical, I think that level of caution is completely justified. The extra fees would be a small price to pay for absolute certainty that everything is working correctly. I'm really drawn to the idea of combining the official credit union documentation with the human interaction from SSA. That seems like the perfect balance of having reliable written information and the confidence that comes from speaking directly with someone who can confirm everything is processed correctly. Thank you for sharing such a thorough and successful approach! This gives me a great roadmap to follow when I make my own change.

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I'm planning to make this same change in the next few weeks and this entire discussion has been absolutely invaluable! As someone who's been putting off switching banks for months because I was so worried about disrupting my Social Security payments, reading all these detailed success stories and practical strategies has finally given me the confidence to move forward. I think I'm going to combine several of the approaches mentioned here: get the official direct deposit verification letter from my new credit union (thanks @Giovanni Marino for mentioning that!), do a practice run on the SSA website first (@Giovanni Rossi's idea), and then use the online method while being extremely methodical about double-checking every number. One question for those who've successfully made the change online: when you took screenshots of the confirmation pages, did you also save them as PDFs or print them out? I'm trying to decide the best way to preserve that documentation long-term in case I ever need to reference it. This community has been so helpful in turning what felt like a scary, risky process into something much more manageable with proper preparation. Thank you to everyone who shared their experiences - both the challenges and the successes. It's made all the difference in my confidence level!

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Welcome to the conversation! It's so great to see someone who's been hesitant about making this change finally feeling confident enough to move forward. This thread really has been amazing for showing how a scary process becomes much more manageable with the right preparation. Your plan to combine multiple approaches sounds perfect - the verification letter from the credit union, the practice run, and the methodical online approach really covers all the bases for accuracy and peace of mind. Regarding documentation, I personally saved my screenshots both as PDFs and printed physical copies. The digital PDFs are easier to store and search through if needed, but having physical printouts gave me that extra backup in case of computer issues. Probably overkill, but for something this important, I figured redundancy was worth it! The practice run idea really is genius - it takes away that pressure of navigating an unfamiliar interface while handling something so critical. You'll go into the real change feeling completely comfortable with the process. Good luck with your change in the next few weeks! With all the strategies you've gathered from this discussion, you're definitely setting yourself up for success. It's wonderful how this community has turned individual anxiety into collective knowledge and confidence!

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I went through this exact same situation 2 years ago and can confirm - the SSA rep was completely wrong! Restricted applications for survivor benefits are absolutely still allowed. The 2015 changes only affected spousal benefits, not widow(er) benefits. Here's what worked for me: During your phone appointment, say "I am filing a restricted application for survivor benefits ONLY" and repeat that you are NOT applying for your own retirement benefit at this time. If the agent seems confused or pushes back, politely ask to speak with a technical expert or supervisor who specializes in survivor benefits. Also bring up that you plan to file for your own retirement benefit at age 70 when your delayed retirement credits max out - this will help them understand your strategy is intentional and legitimate. Don't let them talk you out of what is absolutely the right financial move for your situation!

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Thank you so much for sharing your experience! It's such a relief to hear from someone who successfully navigated this exact situation. I love the specific language you used - "I am filing a restricted application for survivor benefits ONLY" - that sounds much clearer than how I was planning to phrase it. I'll definitely mention my plan to file for my own retirement at 70 to help them understand the strategy. Did you have any issues with the paperwork or confirmation after your call went through?

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I'm a newer community member but wanted to chime in since I just went through this process myself 6 months ago. The SSA representative you spoke with is absolutely incorrect - restricted applications for survivor benefits are still very much allowed and are actually a common, smart strategy for people in your exact situation. What you're describing is textbook correct: take survivor benefits at FRA, let your own benefit grow with delayed retirement credits until 70, then switch. The confusion likely stems from the fact that many SSA phone reps mix up the rules for spousal benefits (which were restricted under the 2015 law changes) with survivor benefits (which were NOT affected). During your phone appointment, I'd recommend being very direct: "I am applying ONLY for widow's benefits at this time. I am NOT applying for my own retirement benefit." If they try to process both or seem confused, don't hesitate to ask for a supervisor or technical specialist. One thing that helped me was explaining upfront that I understood this was a two-step process and that I planned to file for my own retirement benefit at age 70. This seemed to help the agent understand I wasn't confused about the process. Stay confident - you clearly know what you're doing and your strategy is both legal and financially sound!

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