Has anyone here successfully appealed an SSA calculation? We're considering it because we still think there's an error in how they calculated our benefits with GPO and early filing reductions. The amounts just don't add up no matter how we do the math.

One other factor to consider: if your wife's FRA is 67 (born in 1960 or later), filing at 62 means a 30% reduction to benefits. But the spousal benefit reduction is actually calculated differently and can be higher - up to 35% if claimed at 62. So the full calculation is: 1. Take 50% of your PIA 2. Subtract 2/3 of her non-covered pension (GPO) 3. Apply the appropriate early filing reduction percentage based on her age when she filed 4. Factor in any COLA adjustments between her filing date and when spousal benefits began It's one of the most complex calculations in the Social Security system, and unfortunately, not all SSA representatives fully understand it. If you get your questions answered by someone knowledgeable, please share what you learn - it would help others in similar situations!

My dad tried doing the semi-retirement thing and Social Security totally messed up his payments. They kept sending him letters about overpayments and underpayments. The system is broken and they can't handle anything that doesn't fit their rigid categories. Just be prepared for a bureaucratic nightmare if you go this route!

Thank you all for the incredibly helpful responses! I feel much more confident about my plan now. Just to summarize what I've learned: 1. Since I'm at FRA, working part-time won't trigger any benefit reductions 2. My benefit calculation uses my highest 35 years, so these part-time years probably won't impact my amount 3. Waiting to claim until 68-70 gives me a significant boost (8% per year) regardless of my current work situation 4. I should consider the tax implications of working while collecting I think I'll stick with my original plan to work part-time for a couple years, but I'll definitely look into getting confirmation from SSA about my specific earnings history. Thanks again everyone!

my wife did hers last month u dont send anything! just tell them the numbers off ur docs. but she got confused halfway thru and had to call for help. took 3 days to get someone on the phone!!!

One more tip - before you start your application, review your earnings record in your my Social Security account to check for any errors. It's much easier to correct earnings issues before you apply rather than during the application process. Also, the online application will ask about your preferred Medicare enrollment if you're not already enrolled. Have your healthcare information ready so you can make informed choices about Medicare Part B and Part D enrollment.

I was in a similar situation last year. Divorced after 22 years, started my own SS at 66. Found out my ex was a high earner so I applied for divorced spouse benefits. Took FOREVER to process (about 3 months) but I ended up getting an additional $320/month because half of his benefit was higher than my full benefit. Definitely worth checking into!! They did ask for my marriage certificate and divorce decree, so tell your friend to have those ready.

To answer your follow-up question: No, she doesn't need his SSN to apply. The SSA can locate his record with his name, date of birth, and place of birth. She should bring her own identification, her Social Security card, birth certificate, marriage certificate, and divorce decree to prove she meets the requirements. Also, to clear up some confusion in this thread: If she's entitled to both her own retirement and a divorced spouse benefit, she'll receive her own benefit plus the difference if the divorced spouse benefit is higher. So if her own benefit is $1000 and 50% of his is $1400, she would receive $1400 total (not $2400). But if her own benefit is $1500 and 50% of his is $1400, she would just continue to receive her $1500.

I just realized nobody asked - does the wife have children under 16? If your friend and his wife had kids who are still minors, she could potentially receive benefits as a mother caring for his children, even after divorce. This doesn't have the 10-year marriage requirement. But since you mentioned they don't have kids together, this wouldn't apply.

Has your friend talked to a divorce attorney who specializes in situations involving disability benefits? My neighbor went through something similar and said her lawyer gave her better advice than SSA did because he understood both the SS rules AND how they interact with divorce law in our state. Might be worth the consultation fee.

OH WAIT!! Totally forgot to mention - at some point during the online application it's going to ask you questions that seem repetitive about your work history. Don't skip these! My husband did and it delayed his application by weeks because they had to call him to verify information he could have just entered online. And a quick question for others on this thread - does accepting SS retirement benefits affect the potential survivor benefits my spouse would receive if I pass away first? We haven't been able to get a straight answer on this.

are u sure u shud file online?? my cousin did that and his application got lost for 3 months!! he had to start over in person. just sayin maybe go to the office if u can

One more important point - if you're still deciding when to claim, you should check your earnings record on the MySocialSecurity website. Make sure all your past earnings are recorded correctly, as errors can significantly impact your benefit calculation. You'll want to create a strategy based on your expected longevity, other income sources, whether you're married, tax situation, and how much you need the income now versus later. For someone who's already 63 and considering waiting, each additional month of delay increases your benefit by about 0.5-0.7% depending on your exact birth year.

My neighbor waited till 70 to claim and now gets almost $1,400 more per month than his friend who claimed at 62. That's almost $17k more PER YEAR for the rest of his life!!!!

my frend worked for school district 26 yrs now gets $0 from husbands SS even tho he paid in 45 yrs! system is rigged against teachers

One final suggestion - even though your calculation shows $0 benefit, it might still be worth calling SSA to verify your specific situation. There are occasionally special circumstances or provisions that might apply in individual cases. For instance, if you had any substantial earnings under Social Security yourself (not just your teacher's pension), the calculation becomes more complex and potentially more favorable. Also, having the calculation officially done can help with future planning, especially regarding survivor benefits should your spouse pass away before you (survivor benefits are also subject to GPO, but the calculation is different). Keep in mind that when you do call, try to speak with someone who specifically understands GPO/WEP provisions, as not all representatives are equally familiar with these complex rules.

Why does the govt make this soooo confusing?? 😫 It's OUR MONEY that we paid in! All these rules about who gets what and when you can claim and how much is reduced... it's like they WANT us to get less than we deserve!

To answer your follow-up question: When you file for your retirement benefits, there will be a section asking about your marital status. Make sure to provide your marriage information at that time. SSA doesn't automatically know your marital status unless you've provided that information previously. If you want to be extra certain, bring your marriage certificate when you apply for benefits or when visiting an SSA office. While it may not impact your current benefit situation (since it appears your husband won't qualify for a spousal supplement), having this information correctly recorded in the system will make future matters (like potential survivor benefits) much smoother.

Based on your December 1953 birth date, you're definitely eligible for the restricted application strategy! Here's what you need to do: 1) Call and make an appointment with SSA (or use the online application), 2) Specifically state you want to file a "restricted application for divorced spouse benefits only," 3) Make sure to tell them you do NOT want to file for your own retirement benefits at this time, 4) Bring your divorce decree and marriage certificate to prove the 10+ year marriage, 5) Calendar a reminder to apply for your own retirement benefits just before turning 70. With your benefit amounts, this strategy will give you about $1,400/month for the next few years, then $3,160/month for the rest of your life after 70 - a great financial move!

One more important detail - you mentioned you've been divorced for about 3 years, which is perfect. For divorced spouse benefits, you must be unmarried OR if you remarried, you can only get benefits on your ex's record if your current marriage happened after you turned 60. Just wanted to make sure that wasn't an issue in your case!