Social Security agent said restricted applications for survivor benefits no longer exist - is this true?
I'm 66 (hit my FRA this year) and lost my husband 3 years ago. My plan has always been to take survivor benefits now and switch to my own retirement at 70 since my benefit will be significantly higher then. Everything I've researched says I need to file a "restricted application" to ONLY receive survivor benefits without triggering my own retirement. Here's what's freaking me out: I called my local SSA office yesterday to set this up, and the rep told me they "don't do restricted applications anymore" and said they only handle phone appointments now. She scheduled me for a call next month to file for survivor benefits and casually mentioned I could "just apply for my own benefits when I turn 70." This contradicts EVERYTHING I've read about how Social Security handles these situations! I'm terrified they're going to accidentally file me for both benefits or mess up my strategy. Am I misunderstanding something about the filing process? Has SSA changed their policy? My appointment is in 3 weeks and I'm stressing that I'm headed for a costly mistake!
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Yuki Nakamura
The SSA rep gave you incorrect information. Restricted applications DO still exist for survivor benefits at any age. There were changes made under the Bipartisan Budget Act of 2015, but those only affected spousal benefits, not survivor benefits. What you're doing is completely valid and a smart strategy - collect survivors now and switch to your own larger benefit at 70. When you have your phone appointment, make it CRYSTAL CLEAR you are ONLY applying for survivor benefits. Use those exact words. If they seem confused, ask to speak with a technical expert or supervisor. Document everything - who you spoke with, when, what they said. I'd even recommend recording the call if legal in your state (just tell them you're recording).
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Ethan Moore
•Thank you SO much. I was starting to doubt myself! I'll definitely make it clear I'm ONLY applying for survivor benefits and not my retirement. Should I specifically use the phrase "restricted application" during the call? Or just focus on saying I only want survivors?
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StarSurfer
RESTRICTED APPLICATIONS ARE ABSOLUTELY STILL A THING FOR WIDOW(ER)S!!!!!!! The 2015 law changes only affected spousal benefits, NOT survivor benefits!!! SSA phone reps are notorious for giving wrong info. I went thru this EXACT situation last year. First rep told me I couldn't do it, second rep said the same, third rep knew exactly what I was talking about and processed it correctly. What you want is 100% allowed and is actually the SMART financial move if your own benefit will be higher at 70. Don't let them tell you otherwise!!! Ask for a supervisor if needed. Be FIRM!
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Ethan Moore
•Oh thank goodness. I was so confused when she said that! Did you have to specifically use certain language to make it work? I'm worried about saying the wrong thing and accidentally filing for both benefits.
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Carmen Reyes
My sister just did this exact strategy last yr. The key is to tell them u ONLY want to file for survivor benefits and explicitly state u are NOT filing for retirement. She had to be super firm about this because the first agent kept trying to get her to take both. Good luck!
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Andre Moreau
Sometimes the folks answering phones at SSA don't know all the details of the rules. The person you spoke with probably was thinking about restricted applications for spousal benefits (which were phased out for most people born after 1/1/1954). The rules for survivor benefits are different! You are absolutely allowed to take survivor benefits and later switch to your own retirement benefit. When you have your call, just be very clear that you are applying ONLY for widow's benefits at this time. Say it multiple times if needed.
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Ethan Moore
•That makes sense - she might have been confusing the two types of benefits. I'll make sure to be super explicit during my call. I've been planning this strategy for years and would hate to mess it up now!
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Zoe Christodoulou
i work at a financial planning firm and we help clients with this exact strategy all the time. the ssa rep is definitely wrong. restricted applications for widow(er) benefits absolutely still exist. specifically tell them you are ONLY filing for your survivor benefit. if they seem confused ask to speak to a technical expert. have your husband's death certificate and marriage certificate ready. good luck!
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Jamal Thompson
After trying to get through to SS for 3 weeks about my survivor benefits (kept getting disconnected!), I found a service called Claimyr that got me through to an agent in under 10 minutes. You might want to check them out at claimyr.com if you need to call back and clarify before your appointment. They have a video showing how it works: https://youtu.be/Z-BRbJw3puU I also did the survivor-now-my-own-later strategy and had to be SUPER clear about what I wanted. The first agent was confused but I asked for a supervisor who understood immediately.
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Ethan Moore
•Thanks for the tip! I might use that service if my scheduled appointment goes poorly. It's so frustrating how inconsistent the information is!
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Mei Chen
My mom went through this last year and the SSA kept messing it up! They initially tried to file her for both benefits even though she clearly said she only wanted survivors. She had to call back 3 times and finally got someone who understood what she wanted. Just keep pushing and don't sign anything until you're 100% sure it's correct.
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Carmen Reyes
make sure u get the name and direct extension of whoever u talk to!! i didn't do this and regretted it when i had problems later
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Yuki Nakamura
To be extra prepared for your phone appointment: 1) Have your late husband's SSN, death certificate details, and marriage info ready 2) Write a script for yourself with key phrases like "I am ONLY filing for widow's benefits" and "I do NOT want to file for my own retirement at this time" 3) Take detailed notes during the call 4) Ask them to email you confirmation of exactly what was filed 5) If anything seems off, immediately ask to speak with a supervisor or technical expert Many SSA phone reps truly don't understand the nuances of survivor benefit strategies, so don't take the first answer if it doesn't match what you know to be true.
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Ethan Moore
•This is incredibly helpful - thank you! I'm going to prepare a script exactly as you suggested. I'll also have all our documents ready. Do you know if they'll send me something in writing confirming what I applied for after the call?
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Andre Moreau
Yes, they should send you a confirmation letter after your application is processed. If they don't mention sending one during the call, specifically ask for it. The letter should clearly state which benefit you applied for. Keep this for your records!
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Zoe Christodoulou
From your username it looks like you're in Texas? My mom had the exact same experience with the Dallas SSA office. The frontline staff gave her incorrect info about survivor benefits but when she got to the actual claims specialist, they handled it correctly. Just make sure to escalate if needed during your call.
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Ethan Moore
•Yes, I'm near Houston! That's reassuring to hear your mom eventually got it sorted out. I'll definitely ask for a specialist if needed.
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