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I've been receiving SSDI for about 5 years due to my chronic back condition. I'll be turning 62 next month and someone at my doctor's office mentioned that my Social Security disability payment might get reduced once I reach retirement age. Is this true? Will my SSDI payment amount drop when I hit 62? I'm on a really tight budget and even a small reduction would really hurt my finances. My monthly payment is currently $1,650 and I can't afford to lose any of that. Does anyone know how this disability-to-retirement transition works?
I finally applied for my Social Security retirement benefits last week! I'm turning 67 in February and decided to start collecting at my full retirement age in March 2025 (so first payment should arrive in April). The agent I spoke with was helpful with the application but when I asked about tax withholding, she just gave me a brief answer that confused me more. I know I need to submit form W-4V for voluntary tax withholding, but I'm not clear on WHEN I should submit it. Should I send it now along with my application? Wait until my benefits are approved? Or wait until I actually start receiving payments in April? I want to make sure I do this right and avoid tax headaches next year. My pension already has withholding but I'm worried about ending up with a big tax bill if I don't set up the SS withholding correctly from the start. Anyone been through this recently?
Question - what if I'm already receiving SS (since 2023) but never set up withholding? Can I still submit a W-4V now or is it too late?
It's definitely not too late! You can submit Form W-4V at any time. Just complete the form with your current information and submit it to your local SSA office or by mail. Once processed, they'll start withholding from future payments. Just be aware you may need to make estimated tax payments for any tax liability you've accumulated so far this year.
Thank you all for the helpful advice! Based on everyone's suggestions, I'll wait until I get my award letter (hopefully within the next month) and then immediately submit my W-4V form. I'm going to use certified mail with return receipt so I have proof they received it. I'm also going to reconsider my withholding percentage - I was planning on 10% but might bump it up to 12% based on the combined income with my pension. Really appreciate everyone sharing their experiences!
Sounds like a solid plan. One additional tip: after submitting your W-4V, allow about 30 days for processing, then check your my Social Security account online to verify the withholding has been applied to your record. This way, you'll know before your first payment whether additional follow-up is needed.
I'm currently managing my mother's finances with a Power of Attorney (POA) that we set up about 18 months ago. I pay all her bills from her checking account, manage her investments, and handle her taxes. She receives about $2,450 monthly from Social Security retirement. Recently at her nursing home care meeting, a social worker mentioned something about becoming her "representative payee" for Social Security benefits. I honestly had never heard of this before! I'm confused about whether I need this representative payee status when I already have POA. Are there any advantages to adding this? Does a POA not give me the authority to manage her Social Security payments? I'm trying to avoid unnecessary paperwork, but also want to make sure I'm doing everything correctly for her care. Has anyone been in both roles and can explain the difference? She's 78 and has early-stage dementia but can still recognize family and participate in simple decisions. Thanks for any insights!
Just wanted to add my experience as someone who's been both POA and rep payee for my grandmother for the past 3 years. The rep payee process was actually much easier than getting the POA done originally! One tip that helped me: when you call SSA, have your mom's Social Security number, your relationship to her, and a brief explanation of why she needs help managing her benefits ready. They'll ask these questions right away. Also, the annual reporting (Form SSA-623) is really not as scary as it sounds. I just keep a simple spreadsheet throughout the year tracking her SS money - rent, groceries, medical bills, etc. Takes me maybe 30 minutes to fill out the form each year. The peace of mind knowing I can actually communicate with SSA about her benefits is worth the extra paperwork. Good luck with the process!
I'm going through this exact situation with my mom right now and wanted to add a few practical tips that have helped me: First, when you call SSA to start the rep payee process, try calling right when they open at 8am - I found the wait times are much shorter then. If you do use that Claimyr service someone mentioned, it's totally worth it to avoid the phone tree nightmare. Second, bring a folder with copies of everything even if they don't specifically ask for it: her Social Security card, your ID, the POA documents (even though they won't recognize them for SS purposes), any medical records you have, and a list of her monthly expenses. Being over-prepared made my appointment go much smoother. One thing that surprised me is that they actually encouraged me to keep managing her other finances with the POA while handling just the Social Security payments as rep payee. The SSA worker said it's completely normal to wear both hats and they work together well. Also, if your mother's nursing home has a social worker familiar with rep payee processes, they can be a great resource. Ours helped me understand exactly what documentation would be helpful and even offered to provide a letter about mom's care needs if SSA requested it. The whole process took about 5 weeks for me, and having direct communication with SSA has already saved me headaches when a payment was delayed last month. Definitely worth doing sooner rather than later!
Thank you so much for these practical tips, Sofia! The advice about calling right at 8am is gold - I've heard horror stories about people waiting hours on hold. I'll definitely try that approach first before considering the Claimyr service. Your point about being over-prepared really resonates with me. I'd rather bring too much documentation than not have something they need and have to reschedule. The tip about working with the nursing home's social worker is especially helpful since they mentioned the rep payee process in the first place - I should definitely ask them for guidance on what documentation might be useful. It's also reassuring to hear that SSA encourages managing both POA responsibilities and rep payee duties simultaneously. I was worried there might be some conflict between the two roles, but it sounds like they're designed to work together for comprehensive care management. Five weeks seems like a reasonable timeframe, and your example about the delayed payment really drives home why having that direct communication channel with SSA is so important. Thanks for sharing your experience - it's incredibly helpful to hear from someone who just went through this process!
My husband turns 68 next month and we're trying to make some financial decisions. He's been working at the same engineering firm for the past 15 years and isn't planning to retire for another 2-3 years (he loves what he does). We're wondering if he can start collecting his full Social Security retirement benefits now, even while continuing to work full-time? His estimated benefit would be around $3,200/month according to his SS statement. Also, if he does start collecting, does he need to notify his employer about this? Would this affect his employment status or health insurance in any way? We don't want to create any awkward situations at work if his boss thinks he's about to retire. We're also confused about taxes - will getting SS while working put us in a higher tax bracket? Sorry for all the questions, but the SSA website isn't very clear on these specific situations!
we got a letter from ssa about the taxes thing. u can choose to have federal taxes withheld from ur ss payments if u want. i think its 7%, 10%, 12% or 22% options. might be easier than messing with his work withholding
This is such a helpful thread! My husband is in a similar situation - he'll be 67 next year and we've been going back and forth on this decision. Reading everyone's experiences with the tax implications is really eye-opening. I had no idea about the automatic benefit recalculation that @StarStrider mentioned - that's actually a nice bonus! One thing I'm curious about - for those who started collecting while working, did you notice any changes in how your coworkers or management treated you? I know legally there's no requirement to disclose, but I'm wondering if there are any subtle workplace dynamics to consider. My husband is in a pretty competitive field and I worry that even the perception that he might be "one foot out the door" could affect opportunities. Also, does anyone know if there are any advantages to applying online versus in person? We're pretty tech-savvy but want to make sure we don't miss anything important in the process.
I'm turning 66 in April 2025 but my Full Retirement Age is 67 and 2 months (March 2026). I want to claim SS benefits when I hit 66 but continue working at my current job. From what I've read, there's an earnings limit of about $60,000 in the year before FRA. My situation is I'll probably earn around $42,000 from January through April 2025. After I turn 66, I'm not sure if the earnings limit still applies or if it resets somehow. Do I get a fresh earnings count after my 66th birthday? Or am I still under the annual limit until I reach my actual FRA in 2026? My HR department wasn't helpful and I can't seem to get through to SSA on the phone. Any insight would be super appreciated!
I'm new to this community and have been lurking while trying to understand these same rules for my own situation. This thread has been incredibly enlightening! I wanted to add one resource that might be helpful - the SSA Publication 05-10069 "How Work Affects Your Benefits" explains the earnings test rules pretty clearly. You can download it directly from ssa.gov and it has examples that are similar to your situation. Also, I noticed some people mentioned difficulty getting through to SSA by phone. In addition to the 7 AM calling tip, I've had success using their online "Contact Us" form for non-urgent questions. They usually respond within a week with detailed written answers you can refer back to. One last thing - make sure to keep detailed records of your monthly earnings throughout 2025. Even though your January-April total of $42,000 is well under the limit, SSA may ask for documentation when they review your case after you file your 2025 taxes. Having pay stubs organized by month can save you headaches later. Hope this helps, and thanks to everyone who shared their experiences. This community is such a valuable resource for navigating these complicated rules!
This is such a helpful thread! As someone just starting to navigate Social Security planning, I really appreciate all the detailed explanations and real-world experiences shared here. The Publication 05-10069 recommendation is great - I just downloaded it and it's much clearer than the general SSA website pages I was looking at before. The tip about keeping detailed monthly earnings records is something I wouldn't have thought of but makes total sense. It seems like documentation is key when dealing with SSA! I'm also glad to know about the online Contact Us form option - I've been dreading trying to call them. Thanks for adding these practical resources to an already incredibly informative discussion!
I'm new to this community but wanted to share some additional clarity on this topic since I work in retirement planning and see this confusion frequently. The earnings test has three distinct phases that people often mix up: 1. **Before the year you reach FRA**: Lower annual limit (~$23,400 for 2025) 2. **During the year you reach FRA, but before the FRA month**: Higher annual limit (~$62,160 for 2025) 3. **Starting the month you reach FRA**: NO earnings limit whatsoever For your specific situation with FRA in March 2026: - Your $42,000 from Jan-April 2025 falls under the higher limit, so you're fine - From May 2025 through February 2026, you'll still have the higher earnings limit - Starting March 2026, you can earn unlimited amounts The confusion often comes from older rules when FRA was 65-66 for everyone. Now that FRA is 67+ for most people, there's a significant gap between turning 66 and reaching actual FRA. One important note: Even if you exceed the earnings limit, it's not "lost money" - SSA recalculates your benefits upward at FRA to account for months they withheld benefits. But it's still generally better to stay under the limit for cash flow purposes. I'd strongly recommend verifying your exact FRA date on your SSA.gov account, as this determines when your earnings restrictions end completely.
Thank you so much for this clear breakdown! As someone new to understanding Social Security rules, having the three phases laid out so clearly really helps make sense of all the different information I've been seeing. The point about it not being "lost money" if you exceed the earnings limit is really reassuring - I had been worried that going over would permanently reduce benefits. It's good to know that SSA recalculates things at FRA to account for withheld benefits. Your recommendation to verify the exact FRA date on SSA.gov is spot on - I just checked mine and it's slightly different than what I had calculated myself. This thread has been incredibly educational for someone just starting to navigate these decisions. Thanks for sharing your professional perspective!
CosmicCruiser
Im getting disability too but I also worked a part time job allowed under the earnings limit. Does that make any difference when I turn 62? They told me I could earn up to $1,550/month without affecting SSDI but don't know if that changes at 62?
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Luca Romano
Great question! While on SSDI, you're subject to the Trial Work Period (TWP) and Substantial Gainful Activity (SGA) rules. The earnings limit you mentioned ($1,550/month for 2023) is the SGA amount. When you turn 62, nothing changes regarding these work rules as long as you remain on SSDI. You'll still be subject to the same earnings limitations. However, once you convert to retirement benefits at your Full Retirement Age, different earnings rules apply. At that point, there's no limit to how much you can earn without affecting your benefits.
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Axel Far
I went through this exact same situation three years ago when I turned 62! I was so stressed about potentially losing part of my SSDI payment, but everyone here is absolutely right - nothing changes at 62. Your $1,650 will continue exactly as it is. What really helped me was calling my local Social Security office (I finally got through after several attempts) and they confirmed that SSDI recipients don't face any benefit reductions at age 62. That's only for people who choose to take early retirement benefits. The transition from SSDI to retirement benefits happens automatically at your Full Retirement Age (sounds like 67 for you), and the amount stays identical. You might even get small increases each year with the Cost of Living Adjustments - mine went up about $100 over the past few years. Don't stress about it - your budget will be fine!
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