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NY unemployment denied me because my name is too long for their system

My workplace announced a temporary closure from April 15 until early September due to economic slowdown. Management assured us we could file for unemployment during this closure period. But I've been fighting with the system for almost 3 weeks now. First, I couldn't even complete an application because their system kept rejecting me saying my name didn't match my social security number. Turns out their name field only accepts 12 characters and my hyphenated last name alone is 15 characters (European background). Finally got through that by abbreviating my name, but now they denied my claim stating my NYS ID doesn't match my SSN information. Well duh - the DMV had the same character limit issue so they kept my maiden name on my license while my SSN has my full married name. How am I supposed to fix this? The government's outdated systems with character limits are preventing me from getting benefits I'm entitled to. Anyone else deal with this ridiculous name-length problem?

Oh god the character limit thing happened to me too! My last name is Russian, 16 characters, and I had to abbreviate it everywhere. When I filed for unemployment last year they kept saying there was a "name mismatch" with my records. took me calling them 40+ times to finally get someone who could help.

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How did u finally get it resolved? Did they just override it in the system?

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Yeah finally got a supervisor who manually added a note to my account about the name length issue. Still took like 3 more weeks to process tho 😑

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This is why I refused to change my name when I got married. Government systems are from the stone age lol

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The name field limitations are ridiculous in 2023. My friend with a hyphenated last name had the same issue but with her tax return. She ended up having to file an identity theft report because the IRS thought she was a different person than the one on her W2s.

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This is actually a policy issue! I used to work in IT systems for government. Many legacy databases were built in the 70s/80s when memory was expensive, so they limited field sizes. They never updated the systems even though technology advanced. What you need to do is call and specifically ask for a "name reconciliation" between your records. Keep calling until you get someone who knows what that means.

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Thank you! This is super helpful. Will definitely ask about the "name reconciliation" when I call.

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yep, I work in government IT too and can confirm. These systems are held together with duct tape and prayers 🤣

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You NEED to talk to an actual agent. Their online system can't handle exceptions like this but a real person can override it and fix it for you. Problem is good luck getting thru to anyone at NY unemployment these days 😫

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THIS! I dealt with the exact issue and spent 5 days straight calling. Best time to call is right when they open (like literally call a minute before) or 30 min before they close.

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Listen very carefully to what I'm about to tell you because I literally just went through this exact same situation with my Vietnamese last name. Here's what you MUST do: 1. Do NOT reapply online - that will just create duplicate issues 2. You need to speak with a tier 2 specialist who can do a manual override in their system. Regular agents don't have this permission. 3. When you call, immediately ask for a supervisor or tier 2 agent when you get someone on the line. Tell them you have a "database format exception" issue. 4. Have ALL your documents ready: SS card, ID, proof of employment, etc. 5. Record the call name/time/date for your records I banged my head against the wall for weeks until I found a way to actually speak with someone using claimyr.com to get past the hold times. The agent was able to fix everything in a single call once I got to the right person. Don't give up! This is a known system issue they can fix manually!

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Thank you so much for this detailed advice! Going to try calling tomorrow morning.

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Saving this comment. I have a similar issue but with my middle name being too long.

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the unemployment system is literally designed to be a bureaucratic nightmare to prevent people from accessing benefits they're entitled to. its absolutely criminal tbh

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facts 💯

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Last year 42% of eligible people never received benefits due to system issues according to a study I read

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My coworker has a 22-character last name (she's sri lankan) and had the SAME issue. She ended up having to go to the actual office in person to get it resolved after 6 weeks of failed calls. If you can do in-person that might be your best bet.

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where is there an in-person office? i thought they closed all of them during covid

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They reopened most of them but you need an appointment. You can make one on the website but last time I checked the wait was like 3-4 weeks.

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I bet u got hit with the dreaded "we cannot process your claim at this time" message! Classic nysdol nonsense. My advice: call the second they open and choose the FRAUD option in the menu, not the regular benefit line. Fraud dept picks up faster and they can transfer you to the right place. I'm 99% sure a real agent can fix this for you in 5 minutes once you explain.

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Its the same database issue affecting lots of govt systems. My friend who works for state IT says their main database was built in 1982 and still runs on COBOL! They spent millions to "upgrade" it in 2019 but really just put a modern web interface on top of the same ancient backend. Such a joke.

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Can confirm this is true. I'm a software engineer who consulted on a state project. The stuff running our benefits systems is ANCIENT.

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have u tried filing an appeal? u have 30 days from denial to do it. i did this when they denied me for a different reason and it actually worked

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Not yet but think I might have to. How long did the appeal process take for you?

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about 3 weeks but this was earlier this year. might be longer now with all the layoffs happening

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Try calling your state representative's office! They have special channels to unemployment and can sometimes work miracles. I was stuck in UI hell for months then my assembly member's office fixed it in 3 days.

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THIS!!!! 👆👆👆 I worked for a state senator and we had a dedicated person who just handled unemployment issues. Call your rep!

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Im in the same boat with a 16-character Polish last name 😭 Unemployment, DMV, social security, banks - none of their systems work properly with long names! For me I actually had to legally use an abbreviated version of my name for official documents and keep documentation from a lawyer about the full vs shortened version. It's ABSURD that this is still an issue.

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Did you already try the backdoor number? 888-209-[rest of number removed] - it bypasses the main menu and sometimes gets you to an agent faster. Found this trick on another thread and it worked for me.

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that number got disconnected last month, they caught on to the bypass 😞

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Try calling at EXACTLY 7:58am. The phones turn on at 8:00 but the queue starts accepting calls 2 minutes before. I got through first try doing this.

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Good tip, thank you!

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Make sure ur checking ur mail carefully! NY unemployment sometimes sends physical mail that requires a response even when everything else is electronic. My benefits got delayed cuz I missed a letter they sent.

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After 3 weeks of trying to reach someone at NY unemployment i went nuclear and contacted my state senator's office. They have a constituent services team that can work magic with unemployment issues. Had my problem solved in 48 hours after weeks of getting nowhere on my own.

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That's a great idea. Who is your state senator if you don't mind me asking?

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I'm in Brooklyn so it was Zellnor Myrie's office, but any state rep should have staff that can help with this!

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ny unemployment is a DISASTER. they're still using ancient systems that break constantly. My advice: 1) document EVERYTHING - save screenshots, write down who you talk to, 2) call early in the morning the minute they open, 3) try using claimyr.com if you can't get through - it actually worked for me, 4) contact your state rep as backup. good luck!!! 🍀

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I've learned after YEARS of dealing with NY unemployment that the online system is just for show. The real work happens when you talk to an actual human. They have all these "automatic" systems that are supposed to process claims but they fail constantly and then you need a human override. Keep calling until you get someone who can actually help.

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Literally this. The website is basically useless for anything beyond the most basic situations.

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