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Check your email too sometimes they send updates there instead of the website messages. Also call your local career center they might have more info about appeal timelines in your area.
I feel for you - the waiting is brutal when you're running low on funds. One thing that helped me was calling the Appeals Bureau directly at (518) 402-0205 rather than the main unemployment line. They're usually less busy and can at least confirm they received your appeal and give you a rough timeline. Also, if you haven't already, make sure you're continuing to certify for benefits each week even while your appeal is pending - if you win, you'll get backpay for those weeks. Hang in there, 6 weeks is still within the normal timeframe even though it feels like forever.
Thank you so much for that direct number! I've been calling the main line and getting nowhere. Just to clarify - when you say continue certifying for benefits, do you mean I should keep doing the weekly certification even though my claim shows as disqualified? I stopped doing it because I thought there was no point since I'm not getting paid anyway.
I've been following this thread as someone who was also terrified to file due to employer retaliation concerns, and I wanted to share what finally helped me take action. What shifted my perspective was realizing that by NOT filing, I was essentially letting my former employer continue to control my financial situation even after they'd already terminated me. The NYS DOL system exists specifically to protect workers in situations like ours - where employers might try to avoid paying higher UI taxes by making false or exaggerated claims about why someone was let go. Here's what I did that made the process less scary: I spent one evening writing down everything I could remember about my last few weeks of employment - dates, conversations, witnesses present, any emails or texts I'd sent to friends/family about work issues. Then I filed my claim the next day before I could second-guess myself again. Having that documentation ready gave me confidence that I could respond effectively if my employer tried to contest with false information. The reality is that most employers either don't contest at all or can't provide adequate documentation when they do. The adjudicators have seen every trick in the book and are good at spotting employers who are just trying to avoid paying into the system. Don't let fear of what someone might say cost you benefits you've literally paid for through your payroll deductions. You deserve that financial support while you look for new work!
@Lucas Adams This really hits home for me - the idea that by not filing I m'letting my former employer continue to control my situation even after termination is such a powerful way to think about it. I ve'been so focused on what they might say that I completely lost sight of the fact that I literally paid into this system through every paycheck and have every right to access these benefits. Your approach of writing everything down in one evening and then filing the next day before second-guessing kicks in is exactly what I think I need to do. I tend to overthink things and talk myself out of taking action, but you re'absolutely right that I ve'already earned these benefits through my work history. Reading everyone s'experiences in this thread has been incredibly reassuring - it sounds like the NYS DOL investigators really do know how to spot employer tactics and require actual documentation rather than just taking anyone s'word for it. I m'going to follow your advice and spend this weekend documenting everything I can remember, then file on Monday morning. Thank you for the reminder that this system exists to protect workers like us!
I was in a very similar situation about 8 months ago and want to share what I learned to hopefully ease your anxiety. Yes, NYS DOL does contact your employer, but the process is much more structured and fair than you might be imagining. They send Form IA 12.3 which asks very specific questions about your separation - it's not an open forum for your boss to vent or make unsubstantiated claims. What really helped me was understanding that if your employer wants to dispute your claim, they need actual documentation to back up their version of events. In my case, my former manager tried to claim I was terminated for "unprofessional behavior" but when pressed for evidence, all they had were some vague notes that didn't follow any formal disciplinary process. The adjudicator approved my claim within about 10 days because there was no proper documentation trail. My biggest mistake was waiting almost a month to file because I was scared of what my employer might say. That cost me nearly $1,000 in benefits that I could never get back since there's no retroactive payment before your filing date. Don't let fear of your former boss's potential lies rob you of money you've rightfully earned through your payroll contributions. The NYS DOL investigators are experienced with dishonest employers and know what red flags to look for. File your claim now and use the waiting period to gather any documentation you have - emails, texts, pay stubs, anything that supports your timeline of events. You've got this!
@Fatima Al-Mazrouei Thank you for sharing such a detailed account of your experience! Your story about the unprofessional "behavior claim" that had no proper documentation really resonates with me - it sounds like these vague accusations without formal disciplinary processes are pretty common tactics that the NYS DOL investigators see right through. The $1,000 you lost by waiting a month is a sobering reminder of what my hesitation is actually costing me. I ve'been unemployed for about three weeks now and reading that number really drives home that every day I delay is real money I ll'never get back. Your point about the investigators being experienced with dishonest employers gives me a lot of confidence - it sounds like they ve'developed good systems for separating legitimate documentation from employer BS. I think I ve'been letting my imagination run wild about what this process would look like, but hearing about the structured Form IA 12.3 versus some kind of open-ended interview makes it feel much more manageable. I m'definitely going to file this week and stop letting fear control my financial future. Thank you for the encouragement and the reality check about timing!
I'm also a teacher in NY and went through this exact situation when I first started teaching. The reasonable assurance rule is definitely frustrating, but there's one scenario that might apply to some teachers - if you're on a temporary or substitute contract rather than a permanent position. I had a friend who was able to collect unemployment between her long-term sub positions because she didn't have that "reasonable assurance" of returning to the same job. Also, if you're looking for summer income, many districts hire teachers for summer programs, ESY (Extended School Year), or summer school positions. The pay isn't great but it's something. Some teachers also do test prep tutoring or work at educational summer camps. It's worth checking with your union rep too - they usually have good information about what options are available in your specific district.
That's a great point about substitute positions! I'm curious about the summer school angle - if a teacher works summer school for their own district, does that affect their eligibility for unemployment in future summers? Like, would the NYS Department of Labor consider that as strengthening the "reasonable assurance" argument even more? Also, do you know if there are any differences between working summer programs within your home district versus taking a summer position in a completely different district?
I'm a former NYS Department of Labor employee and can confirm what others have said about the reasonable assurance rule. It's codified in NY Labor Law Section 590.11 and is pretty strictly enforced for school employees. The key factor is whether you have a contract or written agreement to return to work in the fall. Even if your salary is spread over 12 months instead of 10, you're still considered to have reasonable assurance. One thing I haven't seen mentioned yet - if you're a probationary teacher and there's genuine uncertainty about your job security for the next year, that could potentially affect your eligibility. But you'd need documentation showing the uncertainty isn't just routine evaluation but actual doubt about contract renewal. The burden of proof would be on you to show the assurance isn't "reasonable." For most tenured or continuing contract teachers though, summer unemployment just isn't going to happen under current NY law.
Thanks for that detailed legal breakdown! As someone new to this situation, I'm wondering - what exactly constitutes "documentation showing uncertainty" for probationary teachers? Would something like a performance improvement plan or concerns raised during evaluations be enough, or does it need to be more explicit like a notice that contract renewal is in question? Also, you mentioned NY Labor Law Section 590.11 - is that something regular people can access online to read the exact language, or do you need to go through legal databases?
Just want to add - make sure you have all your pay stubs from that part-time work before you try to file. NYS Department of Labor will verify everything anyway but having the documentation ready makes the process smoother. Good luck!
I went through something similar a few years back. The key thing to understand is that each time you work and earn wages, it can potentially create a new "benefit year" for unemployment purposes. So even though you missed the deadline for your 2023 job loss, if you had any legitimate employment in 2024 (sounds like you did with that part-time summer work), you might be able to establish a new claim. The tricky part is meeting the minimum wage requirements - you'll need to calculate if those part-time earnings hit the thresholds others mentioned. I'd recommend trying to file online first through the NYS DOL website, as it will tell you pretty quickly if you have sufficient wage credits. Don't give up hope yet!
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I went through this same process about a year ago and the waiting period is absolutely brutal - I totally feel for you! In my experience, it took about 22 days to receive the written decision, and my online account didn't update until about a week after I got the physical letter in the mail. The fact that you're only at 10 days means you're still very much in the normal timeframe. One thing I wish someone had told me is that the judges often take longer on cases they're being more thorough with, which can actually be a good sign. When I did win my appeal, they backdated everything to my original filing date and I got a substantial lump sum for all the weeks I'd missed. Also, make sure you keep filing your weekly certifications even while waiting - I almost forgot to do this and it would have cost me those weeks if I hadn't caught it in time. The uncertainty is the worst part, but hang in there - most people I know who felt their hearing went "okay" ended up with favorable decisions!
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Ryan Andre
•Thank you so much for sharing your experience! The 22-day timeline really helps set realistic expectations - I've been getting anxious at just 10 days but hearing that's totally normal makes me feel better. Your point about judges taking longer on cases they're being thorough with is really interesting and actually kind of reassuring. I hadn't thought about it that way before. I'm definitely going to make sure I keep up with my weekly certifications - I had no idea that was important to do while waiting for the appeal decision. It's encouraging to hear that people who felt their hearing went "okay" often ended up winning. Thanks for taking the time to share all these helpful details!
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Amun-Ra Azra
I totally understand the stress you're going through! I had my appeal hearing about 6 months ago and the waiting period was honestly one of the most anxiety-inducing parts of the whole process. In my case, it took exactly 3 weeks to get the decision letter, and my my.ny.gov account updated about 4 days after I received the physical mail. The fact that you felt the hearing went "okay" is actually really encouraging - the administrative law judges are trained to maintain a completely neutral demeanor throughout the process, so don't read anything negative into their lack of reaction. When I won my appeal, they automatically restored my claim and I received full back pay calculated from my original filing date, which was such a relief after all that waiting. One tip that really helped me stay sane: I started checking my account only on Mondays instead of obsessively checking every day. Also make sure you're still doing your weekly certifications while waiting - I almost forgot about this but it's crucial because if you win, those weeks will count toward your benefit total. At 10 days, you're still well within the normal timeframe, so try to hang in there for at least another week or two before getting too worried!
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Zara Mirza
•This is such helpful advice, thank you! The Monday-only checking strategy sounds like exactly what I need - I've been refreshing my account multiple times a day and it's definitely making my anxiety worse. It's really reassuring to hear that the judge's neutral demeanor is actually normal and professional rather than a bad sign. I was worried because they didn't give me any indication of how I did, but it sounds like that's just how they're supposed to behave. The 3-week timeline you mentioned is consistent with what others have shared, so I feel more confident that 10 days is still early. I'm definitely going to keep up with my weekly certifications - several people have mentioned that and I had no idea it was so important during the appeal process. Thanks for all the practical tips and encouragement!
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