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Opinion on this "Hybrid System" tax proposal that combines source-based taxation with existing laws

I've been researching different approaches to modernize our tax system, and came across this interesting proposal for a "hybrid tax system" that would blend destination-based and source-based taxation principles while working within existing U.S. tax frameworks. The approach focuses on using the Wayfair decision, marketplace facilitator laws, and interstate compacts to shift tax collection from consumers to sellers. It would essentially expand economic nexus laws to include use taxes and leverage marketplace facilitator laws that are already working in most states. What caught my attention is how it proposes dividing revenue between states - with about 20% going to the producing state and the rest to the consuming state. They suggest pilot programs for high-value goods like vehicles and machinery between major states (like California and Texas). The proposal also recommends tax incentives for local purchases (like a 5% use tax reduction for buying in-state) and automating compliance through existing technologies like Avalara. According to their numbers, this could recover around $13 billion in lost use tax revenue, reduce admin costs by 30%, and potentially create 65,000+ jobs from local manufacturing incentives. What do you all think? Is this a workable approach or just wishful thinking? Would states with high consumption like Florida ever agree to share revenue with producing states?

Tax professional here. This hybrid system is interesting but faces significant hurdles. The Wayfair decision did allow states to collect sales tax from remote sellers, but extending this to a source-based component would be challenging constitutionally. The revenue sharing concept (20% to producing states) would likely face fierce opposition from high-consumption states that currently receive 100% of use tax revenue. States like Florida or Texas that rely heavily on consumption taxes but have less manufacturing would see net revenue losses. The technology exists to implement this (Avalara, TaxJar, etc.), but creating interstate compacts for revenue sharing would require extraordinary political will. Remember that the Streamlined Sales Tax Agreement took years to establish and still only has 24 member states. That said, I do like the focus on improving compliance by shifting collection responsibility to sellers rather than consumers. The current use tax system's self-reporting mechanism is effectively broken with compliance rates below 4% in most states.

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If high-consumption states would lose revenue, couldn't the federal government provide some kind of compensation or incentives to get them on board? Also, wouldn't the producing states that gain revenue have political influence to push for this change?

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Federal incentives could definitely help overcome initial resistance. The government could offer transitional funding to offset revenue losses for consumption-heavy states until local manufacturing benefits kick in. Political support would likely follow economic interests. States with strong manufacturing bases like Michigan, Ohio, and Pennsylvania would champion this proposal, while states like Nevada or Florida might resist unless compensated. The proposal would need to demonstrate that the economic growth from increased local manufacturing would eventually offset lost tax revenue for all participants.

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Jamal Brown

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The hybrid system proposal seems interesting in theory, but I worry about implementation complexity. The tax code is already a nightmare. I own a small manufacturing business in Michigan that sells to customers in 8 states, and compliance is already eating up so much of my time and money. For this to work, the technology piece has to be flawless. Most small businesses can't afford expensive tax consultants to figure out how to split taxes between origin and destination states. The proposal mentions tools like Avalara, but those aren't cheap for small operations. Maybe the 20% revenue allocation to producing states makes sense for giants like California and Texas, but what about smaller production states? Would the administrative costs eat up any benefit they'd receive?

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That's a really good point about implementation costs for small businesses. Do you think a phased approach would work better? Maybe start with only high-value goods over $10,000 as they suggest for the pilot, then gradually expand if the systems prove manageable?

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Jamal Brown

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A phased approach would definitely make more sense. Starting with high-value goods creates a more manageable testing ground since there are fewer transactions to track and the tax revenue per transaction justifies the administrative effort. I think they'd also need to provide free compliance software for small businesses below a certain revenue threshold. South Dakota v. Wayfair actually mentioned the availability of affordable compliance software as one justification for allowing states to impose collection obligations on remote sellers. The same principle should apply here - if compliance is too burdensome, it could face legal challenges.

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Mei Zhang

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Has anyone else noticed that they didn't address the constitutional issues at all? The Commerce Clause and Due Process Clause have historically limited states' abilities to tax out-of-state entities. Even post-Wayfair, there are still significant constitutional constraints. The proposal talks about leveraging existing legal frameworks, but creating a hybrid system where producing states get tax revenue from consumption in other states seems like it would face immediate legal challenges. Also, what happens with imported goods? If I buy something manufactured in China but sold by a California company to me in Texas, which state gets the "producer" portion? The proposal doesn't seem to address international commerce at all.

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Good points about imports. I work for a company that imports about 70% of our inventory from overseas, then distributes nationally. Under this system, would we be considered the "producer" state since we're the importer/distributor? Or would all imported goods follow a different rule? Without clarity on this, it seems like there'd be a massive loophole.

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