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Just a heads up - I tried doing MFS in California (community property state) using Free Fillable Forms last year and ended up filing on paper because I couldn't get past the verification errors. This year I did successfully e-file, but I had to do something a bit different. Instead of entering the W-2s exactly as shown on the forms, I entered them with already-calculated 50% amounts. So if my spouse's W-2 showed $80,000 in wages and $15,000 in withholding, I entered a W-2 for them showing $40,000 and $7,500 on my return. It felt wrong doing it this way since it doesn't match the actual W-2, but Form 8958 properly showed the allocation, and the verification passed with this method. Just another option if you're struggling with the override approach.
Isn't that technically incorrect though? I thought you're supposed to report the full W-2 amounts exactly as they appear on the forms, then use Form 8958 to show the allocation. Wouldn't entering modified amounts on the W-2 entries potentially cause issues?
You're absolutely right that it's not the technically correct way to do it. The proper way is to enter the W-2s as they appear and then use Form 8958 to allocate. However, Free Fillable Forms has this verification issue that prevents many people from e-filing when done the correct way. It's one of those situations where the system limitation forces a workaround. The important thing is that the final tax calculation is correct and Form 8958 properly shows the community property allocation. I spoke with a tax professional before doing it this way, and they said that as long as Form 8958 is included and properly shows how you derived your numbers, it should be fine. The IRS is ultimately looking at your taxable income, withholding, and whether you've properly split community property income.
Has anyone tried paper filing instead? After struggling with FFF for weeks last year (California MFS), I just printed everything out and mailed it. Took forever to get my refund but at least I didn't have to deal with the verification errors.
Paper filing works but it's sooo slow right now. I paper filed my MFS return from Washington state last year and it took almost 7 months to get my refund. The IRS is still catching up on their backlog.
One thing nobody mentioned - if you're doing renovations before renting, keep EXTREMELY detailed records of everything. Take before and after photos of all work done. I got audited last year specifically on my rental property improvements and had to prove which were repairs vs capital improvements. The difference in tax treatment is huge.
What counts as "detailed records"? I've been keeping receipts but not much else. Should I be doing more?
Receipts are a good start, but you should also note exactly what each expense was for. Create a spreadsheet that categorizes everything as either a repair or improvement. Take dated photos before, during, and after major work. Keep copies of contracts with any contractors. For example, don't just have a receipt that says "bathroom work - $3,500." Have documentation showing it was a complete bathroom remodel with new fixtures, tile, etc. This makes it clear it's a capital improvement rather than a repair. The IRS can get very picky about what qualifies as an immediate deduction versus what must be depreciated.
Has anyone used TurboTax for reporting rental property? I've used it for years for my personal taxes but never for a rental. Not sure if it can handle all the depreciation and improvement tracking properly.
Have you tried using the NAICS code search tool on the Census Bureau website? It lets you search by keyword and browse through the hierarchy of business activities. I found it super helpful for my situation (I do conservation work on historical documents).
Thanks for suggesting that! I hadn't thought to look at the Census Bureau site. Did you end up using the same code on your Schedule C as the NAICS code you found? Did you have any issues with matching it to the IRS list?
Yes, I used the same code I found through the NAICS search for my Schedule C. The IRS business codes are actually based on the NAICS system, though sometimes they're slightly condensed. I did have to cross-reference what I found with the IRS list in the Schedule C instructions, but it was pretty straightforward. For my conservation work, I found code 711510 (Independent artists, writers & performers) through NAICS, and it matched perfectly with the Schedule C list. Just make sure you're looking at the most current list since they update them periodically.
My accountant told me that for contractors who work with museums, it really depends what you DO, not where you work. If you're doing administrative work, use 561110. If you're doing curatorial/collection management, use 712110 (Museums). If you're doing education/tours, use 611710.
I went through this exact situation with my mom. If you're under 24, not married, and don't have children, it's really hard to be considered independent for FAFSA unless you can prove something extreme like abandonment. But here's what worked for me: 1) I scheduled a personal meeting with my financial aid counselor and brought ALL my documentation showing the situation 2) Had my older sister (who experienced the same thing) write a letter confirming this was a pattern 3) Got my therapist to write a letter about the financial manipulation 4) Brought communications showing my stepdad refusing to file taxes They ended up approving a Professional Judgment adjustment which helped me qualify for more financial aid even though I couldn't get fully independent status. It's worth fighting for! The financial aid office has more flexibility than they initially let on.
Did you have to pay for the therapist letter? I'm in a similar situation but can't afford therapy right now.
I didn't have to pay specifically for the letter. My therapist wrote it as part of my ongoing treatment. If you can't afford therapy, see if your school has counseling services - they're usually free or very low cost for students. School counselors can often provide similar documentation. Many schools also have legal aid services for students that can help you draft affidavits or formal statements about your situation. Church leaders, high school teachers who know your situation, or even employers who are familiar with your family circumstances can sometimes provide supporting letters too.
Has anyone tried just filing FAFSA without parent info and checking the "unable to provide parent information" box? I did that and it let me submit, but I got an email from my school saying I need to follow up with the financial aid office. Wondering if this actually works?
I tried that route last year. You can submit the FAFSA that way, but you'll only be eligible for unsubsidized loans unless you get the dependency override approved. Your school's financial aid office will require additional documentation to consider you for grants or subsidized loans.
Ethan Wilson
I went through this last year with Cook County (always late with their bills). Called the assessor's office and they told me I could look up my PIN on their website to see the assessed amount even though bills hadn't gone out yet. I paid online using that amount in December and included a printout of the assessment page with my tax documents. No issues with the IRS accepting the deduction. Most counties have the info available somehow before they mail the physical bills.
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Anastasia Popov
ā¢Thank you for sharing your experience! I just checked my county's website and found a property search function I didn't know about. You're right - they do have the assessed value listed even though bills haven't been mailed. Does having the assessed value mean it's officially "imposed" as someone mentioned above? I want to make sure I'm following the proper IRS guidelines.
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Ethan Wilson
ā¢Yes, if you can see the assessed value on the official county website, that means the tax has been "imposed" for IRS purposes. The physical bill is just a notification - the actual tax obligation is created when the assessment is finalized and recorded in the county system. Make sure to print or save a PDF of the assessment page showing the date and amount as documentation for your records. I also wrote "Property Tax Prepayment - PIN #12345" in the memo line of my check as additional documentation. The IRS never questioned my deduction.
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Yuki Sato
Has anyone used the IRS's "safe harbor" rule for property tax deductions? I think if you pay based on the previous year's assessment, you should be fine claiming it in the current year since it's a reasonable estimate. My accountant said that's what we're doing this year since our county is behind too.
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Carmen Flores
ā¢I believe you're confusing the safe harbor rules for estimated tax payments with property tax deductions. For property tax deductions, the tax must actually be assessed (imposed) to be deductible in the year paid. There's no safe harbor that allows you to deduct estimated property tax payments before assessment.
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Yuki Sato
ā¢You're right, I misunderstood what my accountant was telling me. He was actually referring to using last year's property tax amount for estimated tax payment calculations, not for claiming the property tax deduction itself. Getting the tax terminology mixed up shows why I need an accountant in the first place lol. Thanks for the correction!
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