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Michigan Treasury reduced my 2025 tax refund for 'past due debts' with no amount specified - waiting for explanation letter

I filed my taxes for Michigan about a month ago around May 24, 2025. Just checked my account on the Michigan Treasury website and saw three updates. The first entry was dated February 19, 2025 with the description: "We have received your Tax Return." Then on February 25, 2025, there are two more entries: 1. "Refund amount is reduced by $ to pay past due debts such as agency debts or state debts. A notice will be mailed to you explaining this action. Please use the Inquiry services on this website to request further details." 2. "Return is completed." I have no idea what debt they're talking about. Never got any notices about owing anything to Michigan. The weird thing is they don't even specify how much money they're taking from my refund - it just says "reduced by $" with no amount listed. When I check the website (etreas.michigan.gov), it just shows these three status updates but doesn't give me any details about what debt they're claiming I owe. Anyone know if I should just wait for their letter to arrive or should I call them now to find out what's going on? How long do these letters usually take to arrive? And has anyone dealt with this before? I'm concerned because I've never been notified of any outstanding debts to the state of Michigan, and now they're apparently reducing my refund without even telling me how much or for what reason.

This is called an offset. The Michigan Treasury is reducing your tax refund to pay for something you owe to a government agency. It could be anything from unpaid taxes from previous years, child support, student loans, parking tickets, or other government debts. You should receive a letter that explains exactly what the offset is for and which agency is claiming the debt. These letters typically arrive within 1-2 weeks after the offset appears on your account. If you can't wait, you can contact the Michigan Treasury directly at 517-636-4486. Have your ID and tax info ready when you call. The letter will have more details, but calling might get you answers faster if you're concerned. You do have rights to appeal if you believe the debt is incorrect, but you'll need to know what the debt is first before you can dispute it.

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Thanks for the detailed answer. Do you know if these offsets usually include interest or just the original amount owed?

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I had this happen last year and yep it was for a parking ticket from 3 years ago that I completely forgot about 😅 They added like $75 in penalties too!

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They typically include the original debt plus any interest, penalties, and collection fees that have accumulated. The letter will break down the exact amounts.

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Just wait for the letter. It should arrive within 7-10 business days. The letter will explain why your refund was reduced, which agency is claiming the debt, and how to contact them if you disagree. Calling now probably won't help much since they'll just tell you to wait for the letter anyway.

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Mine got reduced last tax season for a library fine from 6 years ago that went to collections! 🤦‍♀️ I didn't even know about it. The letter came about 8 days after I saw the notice online. I called the collection agency listed on the letter and paid the remaining balance. Such a headache for a $12 library book I returned late in college lol

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thats ridiculous! the system is so broken. how can they take ur money for something so small from so long ago without even notifying u first? 🤡

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I know right?? They claimed they sent multiple notices to my old college address...from 6 years ago...that I haven't lived at since I graduated. Make it make sense! 🤷‍♀️

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Same thing happened to my husband! It was for a campus parking ticket from 2017 that somehow turned into a $200 debt with all the fees and interest. Absolutely insane.

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Don't bother calling Michigan Treasury directly. Their phone system is a nightmare and you'll be on hold forever just to be told to wait for the letter. I've been thrugh this with them. The letter sometimes takes up to 3 weeks to arrive depending on your location, not the 7-10 days they claim. If you're really concerned, Claimyr.com is the only way I've found to actually reach a human there without losing a day of your life on hold.

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3 weeks?! That's so frustrating. Did your letter actually explain everything clearly at least?

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Yeah the letter itself was actually pretty detailed once it finally showed up. Had the exact amount, what agency claimed it, contact info for that agency, and instructions for disputing if needed. But waiting for it was torture since I had no idea what debt they were talking about.

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this is the exact message i got last year when they took my refund for an old ambulance bill i didnt know about. turned out the hospital sent it to the wrong address for years and then boom, refund gone. you can dispute it if its incorrect but you need to wait for that stupid letter first

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The healthcare system and tax system combining powers to screw us over 😡 America at its finest

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tell me about it! and the worst part was the ambulance ride was literally 3 blocks but cost $2400 🙃 and they took my whole refund without warning

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Your best bet is to use something like taxr.ai to look at your full tax situation and see if there's any obvious issues that would cause this. I used it last month when the IRS reduced my refund and it showed me it was for an old student loan payment I'd missed. The tool is pretty impressive - it explained everything way better than the letter I eventually got. https://taxr.ai saved me a ton of stress.

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Not a shill, just someone who found something that actually worked after spending countless hours on hold with Michigan Treasury and getting nowhere. Believe what you want though 🤷‍♂️

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I just tried taxr after seeing these comments and holy crap it actually is helpful. Shows why your refund was offset, which agency claimed it, and everything. Thanks for sharing this!

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My boyfriend had this exact same thing happen. The debt was from an unreported unemployment payment from 2022 that he didn't know he had to report as income. The letter took about 2 weeks to arrive. You can call but tbh they won't tell you much until you get the letter.

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Whatever u do DONT ignore this! My cousin ignored a similar notice thinking it was a mistake and it ended up affecting his credit score and he had his wages garnished later that year. The govt doesn't play when they think u owe them $$$

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Facts! The government moves slow until it's time to collect money, then they move REAL quick 😂

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This happened to my sister too! She assumed it was a mistake and ignored it, ended up owing way more with penalties and interest. Definitely handle it asap!

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I went through this exact situation last year. Waited 2.5 weeks for the letter only to find out it was for a community college class I withdrew from 5 years ago but apparently still owed $340 for. I couldn't get anyone on the phone until I used claimyr.com - got a callback in under an hour and was able to set up a payment plan for the remaining balance. Talking to a real human at the treasury was the only way I made any progress.

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Did you try disputing it? Seems unfair if you withdrew properly.

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I did try to dispute it, but turns out I withdrew after their deadline so technically I did owe it. The problem was they sent all the notices to my parents' old address that was sold 3 years ago. So frustrating but at least I got it resolved.

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Happened to me already this year! Just wait for the letter, mine came about 10 days after the notice showed online. But if you're impatient (like me lol) you should know that these are usually for: 1. Old state taxes you didn't pay 2. Child support 3. Student loans 4. Traffic/parking tickets that went to collections 5. Medical bills that went to collections

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Thanks! I don't have children or student loans, and I'm pretty sure I've paid all my taxes and tickets. Could be an old medical bill I guess? I'll wait for the letter.

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Could also be identity theft - someone using your info to open accounts that went unpaid. Definitely check your credit report just to be safe!

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I'm an accountant and I see this ALL THE TIME with my clients. It's called a Treasury Offset and it's completely legal. They can take your refund to pay any qualified government debt. The most common ones I see are old tax debts, unpaid child support, defaulted student loans, and unpaid state fees/tickets. The letter will have all the info you need including contact info for the specific agency claiming the debt. If you think it's an error, you'll need to dispute it with that agency, not with the Treasury.

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Is there a statute of limitations on these offsets? Can they take it for something from 10 years ago?

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Great question. It varies by type of debt. For federal tax debts, it's typically 10 years. Student loans have no statute of limitations. Child support can be collected indefinitely in most states. State tax debts vary by state, with Michigan being about 6 years for most debts. But many debts can have their clock "reset" by certain actions, so something from 10+ years ago could still be valid.

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Michigan is the WORST with these offsets!!! They took $1200 from me for a "debt" from 2019 that was actually already paid. I ended up using taxr.ai to figure out what was going on and dispute it properly. I got my money back but it took 7 weeks and so many phone calls. The tool helped me navigate the whole process and understand what documents I needed to prove my case. Can't recommend it enough for these situations.

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Did you have to pay for taxr? What did it cost?

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It's worth every penny for what you get. Taxr actually explained everything and gave me a step-by-step plan to resolve it. Considering I got my $1200 back that would have been lost forever, it was a no-brainer.

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call them ASAP. don't wait for letter. i waited for mine and by the time i got it, it was past the deadline to appeal. learn from my mistake!

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This is a VERY common occurence actually. The reduction could be for almost anything - but I can tell you the Michigan Treasury will usually take about 10-14 days to send that letter. And even then, the letter doesn't always have all the details you need. I work in tax resolution and use a tool called taxr.ai for situations exactly like this. It will tell you precisely what debt they're offsetting, which agency is claiming it, and the exact steps to resolve or dispute it. Much faster than waiting for some vague letter. Worth checking out at https://taxr.ai

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Does this taxr thing actually work for state tax issues? I thought it was just for IRS stuff?

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It works for both federal and state tax issues, including MI Treasury offsets. It's actually really comprehensive - shows you exactly why your refund was reduced, which agency took it, and what your options are. I recommend it to all my clients dealing with refund issues.

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The Michigan Treasury website has an "Inquiry services" option mentioned in your screenshot. Have you tried using that? Sometimes you can get more information through there without having to wait for the letter or call.

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I tried but it just says to wait for the letter 🙄 Not very helpful

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bruh i had this EXACT thing happen with Michigan last year. turned out to be a $25 parking ticket from Ann Arbor that somehow ballooned to $480 with fees and penalties. absolute robbery 💀

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classic government move lmao. take 20 bucks and turn it into 500

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The same thing happened to me but it was from MSU! A $15 ticket from sophomore year turned into $270 somehow. Pure theft.

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Listen, don't bother waiting for that letter. It could take weeks and even then won't have all the info you need. I spent HOURS on the phone trying to get answers about my offset earlier this year. Finally used Claimyr (claimyr.com) and got connected to an actual person at Michigan Treasury in under 30 minutes. They explained exactly what the debt was for and I was able to dispute it right then and there. Talking to an agent directly got my issue resolved in one call instead of weeks of back and forth. Never going back to the old way of dealing with tax issues again.

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how did you dispute it? did they give you your refund back?

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The agent explained it was for a tax underpayment from 2022 that I actually had proof I'd paid, so yes I was able to dispute it. I emailed them my proof while still on the phone with the agent, and they released my refund about 2 weeks later. Without getting someone on the phone directly, this would have taken months to resolve.

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I went through this exact same situation with Michigan Treasury about 6 months ago. The waiting is the worst part because you have no idea what they're claiming you owe or how much they took from your refund. In my case, it turned out to be an old unemployment overpayment from 2020 that I had completely forgotten about. The letter took almost 3 weeks to arrive, and by then I was stressed out of my mind thinking it was some huge debt. My advice would be to try calling them directly at 517-636-4486 if you can't stand waiting. Yes, you'll probably be on hold for a while, but at least you'll get answers. Have your SSN and tax return info ready when you call. The good news is that if it turns out to be a legitimate debt you forgot about, most agencies will work with you on payment plans. And if it's an error (which does happen), you can dispute it once you know what agency is claiming the debt. The uncertainty is definitely the hardest part, but try not to panic. Most of these offsets are for relatively small amounts that just grew with penalties over time.

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Thanks for sharing your experience! An unemployment overpayment makes sense - I totally forgot that those can go to collections too. 3 weeks for the letter is crazy long though. I think I'm going to try calling them directly first since waiting that long would drive me nuts. Did you end up having to pay the full amount or were you able to negotiate it down at all?

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