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WMR shows refund offset warning but Treasury Offset Program says "no debt" - refund due March 3, 2025

I checked my Where's My Refund and it's showing such a confusing message. It says: "Your tax refund has been approved for direct deposit. However, it may be partially or completely reduced to pay a past due obligation, such as child support, another federal agency debt, or state income tax. If so, the Bureau of the Fiscal Service (BFS), who issues IRS refunds, will send you a notice with the amount of the debt and contact information. The details of the debt are not provided to the IRS. This application will be updated with the refund amount remaining, if any, after the debt is deducted. If your refund is not credited to your account by March 4, 2025, please revisit this site or visit IRS.gov/Refunds, for your revised refund status. Updates to refund status are made no more than once a day." There's also a note about "Tax Topic 203, Refund Offsets for unpaid child support and certain federal, state, and unemployment compensation debts." The WMR tool shows my return was Received, then Approved, and supposedly "Sent" - but with this warning about possible reduction for past debts. But here's the weird part - when I called the Treasury Offset Program number, the automated system says I don't have any debt! Has anyone dealt with this before? My refund was supposed to hit my account by March 4, 2025 and WMR specifically says to check back if it doesn't arrive by then. I'm confused because if there's no debt, why am I getting this message? And why would my refund be delayed if BFS doesn't show any debts against me? Is there something going on with the IRS systems where they're showing potential offsets even when none exist? Or is there some debt I'm unaware of that just hasn't been recorded in the Treasury Offset Program yet? I'm really counting on this refund and this uncertainty is stressful.

QuantumQuasar

This is a common issue that happens with the IRS systems not synchronizing properly. What you're seeing is likely one of several possibilities: 1. The offset was very recent and hasn't updated in the TOP (Treasury Offset Program) system yet 2. The offset might be for a state debt which sometimes doesn't show in the federal system immediately 3. It could be an IRS error where they flagged your account incorrectly 4. Sometimes the WMR shows a generic message about possible offset when there's actually a different review happening Your best course of action: - Wait for the BFS notice that should explain any actual offset - Call the IRS directly (not just the offset number) if nothing arrives by October 12 - Check your tax transcript if you can access it - it may show codes that explain what's actually happening - If you had any past debts whatsoever, contact those agencies directly The IRS and Treasury don't always communicate effectively between departments, so this disconnect happens more than you'd think.

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Mei Wong

Thanks for the detailed response. I don't have any debts that I know of, which is why I'm so confused. I'll try to access my transcript and see if there's anything there.

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Liam McGuire

Had the same issue last year. Turned out to be an old student loan I didn't even know was in default. Check EVERYWHERE. 😫

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Amara Eze

this is why the irs is the worst. they tell u something is wrong but not what exactly and u have to be a detective to figure it out. so annoying

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The system IS broken but I'd rather pay once to get my thousands of dollars in refund than wait indefinitely. Spent like 6 hours on hold before giving up and trying this.

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Connor Gallagher

From my experience as a tax preparer, that refund message is sometimes just a generic notification. The IRS systems frequently show potential offset warnings even when there's no actual offset happening. It's ridiculous but happens all the time. I'd wait until your deposit date before panicking.

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AstroAlpha

Just had this EXACT problem last month! Called the offset number - no debt. Called IRS - 2 hour wait just to be told they couldn't help. Called my state tax office - no debt there either. Got a letter 2 weeks later saying my refund was being held for "additional review" but had NOTHING to do with an offset. The messaging is completely different from what was actually happening. Got my full refund about 3 weeks after the original date they gave me.

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Mei Wong

That's actually really helpful to know. Did you have to do anything to get them to complete the "additional review" or did it just resolve on its own?

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AstroAlpha

It resolved on its own but only after I checked my transcript and saw code 570 (refund hold) followed by 571 (hold released). The WMR tool never updated correctly the whole time.

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Keisha Taylor

Check if u have any old student loans, even from many years ago. That's what got me and it didn't show up on the TOP system when I called. Apparently there's a separate dept for student loan offsets. Found out the hard way when my entire refund disappeared 🤬

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Mei Wong

I do have student loans but they're all in good standing as far as I know. I'll double check though!

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Paolo Longo

if there's no offset but ur still getting that message its probably a manual review flag. the irs has been reviewing more returns this year because of all the covid relief fraud. annoying but they dont tell u bc they dont want people to know which returns theyre looking at more closely.

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Amina Bah

Have you checked your actual transcript? The WMR tool is notoriously inaccurate. Your transcript will have transaction codes that tell you exactly what's happening.

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Mei Wong

I haven't been able to access my transcript yet. The verification process keeps failing for some reason.

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CosmicCowboy

the IRS is a JOKE. they take our money instantly but when it's time to give refunds suddenly everything is confusing and nothing works right. been waiting 8 months for my refund with no explanation. good luck 🤡

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Natasha Orlova

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CosmicCowboy

tried calling like 20 times. always "high call volume" and hangup. might try that service u mentioned if it actually works

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Javier Cruz

The BFS (bureau of fiscal service) handles all refund offsets, not the IRS. Sometimes there's a delay between when the IRS says there might be an offset and when the BFS actually processes it. I'd wait for the letter from BFS before worrying too much.

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Emma Thompson

this happened to me!!!! it was a mistake and after THREE MONTHS of checking every day they finally just deposited my full refund with no explanation. the irs just likes to torture us i think

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Malik Jackson

Three months?? I can't wait that long, I needed this money yesterday 😩

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StarSurfer

The TOP system only updates once a week and sometimes there's lag. Try calling back in a few days. Also, check if you have any state tax debts because those might not show up right away in the federal system. In my experience, if the TOP system says no debt, eventually you'll get your full refund but it might be delayed.

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Ravi Malhotra

has ur refund date already passed? if not id just wait until then to see what happens. sometimes the wmr tool is just broken and shows generic messages. my bf got the same msg last year but got his full refund on the scheduled date with no issues.

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Mei Wong

It's supposed to be deposited by October 12th, so I still have a few days. Hoping it just shows up!

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Freya Christensen

Print out your credit reports from all three bureaus and check for any collections accounts you might not know about. Sometimes old medical bills or utility bills from years ago can trigger an offset. I found out I had a $200 medical bill from 5 years ago I never knew about that was holding up my $3000 refund! 🤦‍♂️

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Omar Hassan

I had EXACTLY THIS SITUATION in June! Called the offset number: no debt. Called IRS: they said wait for BFS letter. Letter never came, but my bank suddenly had a deposit for $300 less than my expected refund a week after the projected date. Called again and after 1.5hrs on hold found out it was for a state tax debt from 2017 that I never knew about because I moved. The systems don't talk to each other well.

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Mei Wong

That's really helpful information. I'll double check with my state tax agency too. Thanks!

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