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Carmen Vega

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Has anyone used TurboTax to file Schedule C with multiple years of losses? I'm wondering if certain tax software might flag this issue differently or provide better guidance.

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QuantumQuester

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I used TurboTax for 3 years of business losses and it didn't provide any special warnings about hobby loss rules. It just asked standard Schedule C questions. When I switched to a real accountant, she pointed out several red flags in how I'd been documenting my business that TurboTax never mentioned.

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Carmen Vega

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That's really helpful to know! I've been using TurboTax too but maybe I should consider getting professional help if I'm worried about the hobby loss rules. The software definitely doesn't seem to dig into the documentation aspects that everyone's mentioning here.

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Dylan Hughes

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I went through this exact situation with my consulting business a few years ago. Had 3 consecutive years of losses while I was building my client base, and the IRS did eventually question it. The key thing that saved me was having solid documentation of my business intent from day one. I kept detailed records of: - Client prospecting activities and marketing efforts - Business plan updates showing how I was adapting my approach - Professional development expenses (courses, certifications, networking events) - Time logs showing substantial hours devoted to business activities - Evidence of reducing expenses and changing strategies to achieve profitability When the IRS sent their initial inquiry letter, I responded with a comprehensive package showing all of this documentation. They accepted it without requiring an in-person audit or further escalation. The fact that you're now profitable and made specific business changes (cutting storage costs, reducing inventory) actually strengthens your position significantly. That shows you were operating with a genuine profit motive and making rational business decisions. I'd strongly recommend against your accountant's suggestion to show artificial profits. File accurately and focus on documenting your legitimate business activities and profit-seeking behavior instead.

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Sean Flanagan

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This is exactly the kind of real-world experience I was hoping to hear about! It's reassuring to know that proper documentation can actually resolve these issues without escalating to tax court or lengthy audits. Your point about time logs is really interesting - I hadn't thought about documenting the actual hours I spend on business activities, but that makes total sense as evidence of serious business intent versus hobby activity. Did you handle the IRS response yourself or work with a tax professional to prepare that documentation package? I'm trying to figure out if this is something I can manage on my own or if I really need specialized help.

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Romeo Quest

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Great questions about the LLC timing! I actually went through this exact same situation with my Golden Retriever breeding operation two years ago. Here's what I learned from experience: I'd recommend starting the LLC sooner rather than later, especially since your boss (who's already an established breeder) is advising it. The key is demonstrating business intent from the beginning - which you clearly have since you're planning this systematically. For tracking expenses, definitely start recording everything now: premium dog food, supplements, vet visits (including health testing which can be expensive for breeding dogs), training classes, grooming supplies, crates, whelping boxes, and any breeding-specific equipment. Don't forget about registration fees, health clearances, and even travel costs if you plan to show your dog or travel for breeding. One thing I wish I'd known earlier - keep detailed records of everything, even small purchases. Take photos of receipts and store them digitally. The IRS really scrutinizes breeding businesses because some people try to write off pet expenses as business deductions when they're really just hobbyists. Also consider getting business insurance once you start breeding - liability coverage is important when you're selling puppies to families. The premiums are deductible as a business expense too. The LLC protects your personal assets if anything goes wrong, and starting it now means all your prep expenses are legitimate business deductions from day one. Just make sure you're serious about turning a profit - the IRS hobby loss rules are real!

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This is incredibly helpful - thank you for sharing your real experience! I'm definitely leaning toward starting the LLC now after reading this. Quick question about the health testing you mentioned - are things like hip/elbow screenings and genetic testing for Frenchies typically expensive? I want to budget properly since I know French Bulldogs can have some breed-specific health concerns that responsible breeders need to test for. Also, when you mention "turning a profit" for the IRS hobby rules, does that mean I need to be profitable in year one, or is there some grace period while I'm getting established? I assume the first litter won't happen until late this year at the earliest, so I'm wondering how that timing works with business expenses I'm tracking now.

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Starting an LLC for your dog breeding business is definitely a smart move, especially with your boss's guidance! I've been running a small breeding operation for about three years now and wished I had started the LLC structure earlier. One thing I'd add to all the great advice here - consider opening a dedicated business checking account as soon as you form the LLC. This makes expense tracking SO much easier and provides clear separation between personal and business expenses, which the IRS loves to see. I use a simple spreadsheet to categorize all my breeding-related purchases, but having that separate account makes reconciliation much cleaner. Also, regarding timing - you definitely don't need to wait until after the first litter. All your preparation expenses (health testing, premium nutrition, training, equipment) are legitimate business expenses if you're operating with genuine profit intent. The fact that you're planning systematically and taking advice from an established breeder shows clear business purpose. Don't forget about networking expenses too! Joining breed clubs, attending dog shows (even as a spectator to learn), and breed-specific seminars are all deductible business expenses that help establish your credibility in the breeding community. French Bulldogs have such a dedicated community - getting connected early will pay dividends later. One last tip - start building relationships with a good reproductive vet now, even before you need breeding services. They can be invaluable resources for timing, health monitoring, and ensuring successful outcomes. Good luck with your new venture!

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Carmen Lopez

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This is such great advice about the separate business checking account - I never thought about how much that would simplify record keeping! I'm completely new to any kind of business structure, so these practical tips are incredibly valuable. The networking aspect you mentioned is really interesting too. Are there specific French Bulldog clubs or organizations you'd recommend looking into? I know Frenchies have some unique breeding considerations compared to other breeds, so connecting with experienced breeders in that community sounds like it would be worth the membership fees. Also, when you mention a "reproductive vet," is that different from a regular vet? I want to make sure I'm building the right professional relationships from the start, especially given how important proper breeding practices are for this breed.

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Amara Torres

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OMG this happened to me and I found a workaround! If you act FAST, you might be able to use the IRS's "Get My Payment" tool to update your bank info before they process the deposit! I literally caught mine just in time last year. Otherwise, if the deposit gets rejected, don't stress too much - they'll automatically mail you a check, but it'll take an extra 2-4 weeks. Another option is setting up mail forwarding with USPS if you're moving soon, so you don't miss the paper check. Whatever you do, DON'T file an amended return for this - it would only delay things more!

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I should clarify that the "Get My Payment" tool was primarily for stimulus payments, and may not be available for regular tax refunds at this point. It might be worth checking the IRS website, but I believe most direct deposit information needs to be correct at the time of filing. If anyone tries this method, please verify on the official IRS website first.

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I understand your anxiety about this situation! As someone who works in tax preparation, I see this issue fairly regularly. The good news is that name mismatches on direct deposits are actually quite common with joint returns, and the IRS has established procedures to handle them. When the deposit attempt fails (which it likely will since Walmart MoneyCard confirmed they don't allow joint accounts), the IRS system will automatically convert your refund to a paper check. This typically adds 2-3 weeks to your timeline, but it's completely automatic - no action needed on your part. Just make sure your mailing address is current with the IRS. Also, definitely don't amend your return for this issue - it would only cause more delays. The IRS considers this a payment processing issue, not a filing error. Keep checking the "Where's My Refund" tool, and it should update you when the status changes from direct deposit to paper check being mailed.

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Melina Haruko

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Thanks for this reassurance! It's really helpful to hear from someone with professional experience. I was worried I'd have to deal with calling the IRS or filing amendments, but knowing it's automatic makes me feel much better. Just to confirm - when you say "make sure your mailing address is current," do you mean the address on the actual tax return, or is there somewhere else I need to update it? I want to make sure I don't miss the paper check when it comes.

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How do I handle inventory for my wife's reseller business? Determining what items to write off & when

My wife runs a reseller business mainly dealing with clothing and occasional household items. She sources from thrift shops, garage sales, and similar places, then flips them for profit on platforms like Poshmark and eBay. I understand the straightforward cases where she buys something specifically to resell. But I'm totally confused about personal items that eventually get sold. For example, if she bought a sweater for $12 intending to resell and sold it for $65, that's clearly business income. But what about when she bought a sweater for $60 for herself three years ago, wore it regularly, and now sells it for $15? Do these just balance each other out as $0 taxable income? Another issue I'm struggling with is unsold inventory. Sometimes items just won't move no matter what, and she ends up donating them back to thrift stores. Can we write off the original cost? Does it matter whether it was originally purchased for personal use versus resale? And what about items that are damaged or obsolete? Like if we had a personal laptop that cost $900 that nobody wants to buy as-is, but we could sell it for parts for maybe $35 instead of just trashing it - how would we handle that tax-wise? It feels like literally anything in our house could potentially become "inventory" at this point. I've been using accrual accounting and cost basis for the inventory so far. Any guidance would be super appreciated!

Chloe Green

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One thing to consider is that the IRS allows you to use different inventory accounting methods for tax purposes like FIFO, LIFO, or specific identification. For a reseller with unique items (not identical products), specific identification usually makes the most sense. This means each item you purchase for resale has its own tracked cost basis. So in your example, the $12 sweater sold for $65 would be $53 profit, and the personal $60 sweater sold for $15 would technically be a $45 personal loss (not deductible against business income).

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Lucas Adams

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I thought specific identification was only for investments like stocks. Can you really use it for physical inventory like clothing?

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Kelsey Chin

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Yes, specific identification is actually the most common method for resellers dealing with unique items! Since each piece of clothing or household item is different (brand, size, condition, etc.), you can track the specific cost of each individual item rather than using averages like FIFO or LIFO. This is especially helpful for resellers because you're not dealing with identical inventory units. Each thrift store find has its own purchase price, condition, and eventual sale price. The IRS specifically allows this method in Publication 538 for businesses with "non-identical" inventory items. Just make sure you keep good records linking each purchase to its eventual sale - photos, receipts, and detailed descriptions help establish the connection between cost and revenue for each specific item.

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Ava Garcia

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This is such a common challenge for resellers! I've been dealing with similar issues in my own small business. One thing that really helped me was creating a clear separation between "business purchases" and "personal items that later get sold." For business purchases, I maintain detailed records from day one - photos, receipts, storage location, listing attempts, etc. These clearly qualify for COGS treatment when sold or charitable deduction when donated unsold. For personal items that later get sold, I treat them completely separately. Like your $60 sweater example - that's a personal asset sale, not business inventory. The loss isn't deductible, but it also doesn't get mixed up with your business accounting. The gray area items (bought for business but used personally first) are the trickiest. I've found the best approach is to "convert" them out of inventory when you start personal use, then treat any later sale as personal. Document the conversion with a note about fair market value at the time. For damaged items like your laptop, if it was personal property, selling for parts is still a personal transaction. But this is where having that clear intent documentation from purchase really matters - it establishes whether something was ever business property to begin with. The key is consistency in your method and keeping contemporaneous records of your intent. Don't try to retroactively categorize things based on what's most tax-advantageous!

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Sophia Nguyen

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This is exactly the kind of systematic approach I needed to hear! The idea of "converting" items out of inventory when they transition to personal use makes so much sense - it creates a clear paper trail that would hold up if questioned. Quick follow-up question: when you document that conversion at fair market value, do you use the original purchase price or try to estimate what it would actually be worth at the time you start using it personally? And do you need to report that conversion as income to yourself somehow, or is it just an internal accounting adjustment? I'm also curious about your storage location tracking - do you physically separate business inventory from personal items, or is that more of a record-keeping distinction?

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Dmitri Volkov

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Don't forget that as a contractor you'll be getting a 1099-NEC form (not 1099-MISC like in the old days) from whoever is paying you. This is what they'll send to the IRS to report how much they paid you. The W9 you're filling out now just gives them the info they need to create that 1099-NEC correctly.

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Actually, some places still use 1099-MISC for certain types of payments. I got both types last year - 1099-NEC for my consulting work and 1099-MISC for some royalty payments. Depends on the type of income.

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Great question Miguel! You're absolutely right to be cautious about filling out tax forms correctly. Since you've filed your taxes properly for 2022 and 2023 and your SSN matches your name in the IRS system, you should be fine to sign the Part II certification on the W9. The backup withholding certification is mainly there to catch people who have either failed to report income in the past or have been specifically notified by the IRS that they're subject to backup withholding. One thing to keep in mind as you transition into contractor work - make sure you understand the difference between being an employee and an independent contractor for tax purposes. The company paying you should have legitimate business reasons for classifying you as a contractor rather than an employee. If you're doing the same type of work you did as a W2 employee but now as a "contractor," that could potentially be worker misclassification, which the IRS takes seriously. Also, since this is your first year doing contractor work, consider consulting with a tax professional who can help you navigate quarterly estimated payments and deductions you might be eligible for as a contractor. Good luck with your new side gig!

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