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Emma Anderson

How do you calculate take home pay for self-employed individuals?

Hey everyone, I'm trying to get my head around calculating actual take-home pay for self-employed people. A few friends and I are all self-employed and we're confused about the math. For example, one of us makes about $75k gross income annually. She pays around $17.5k in self-employment taxes throughout the year. But obviously the take-home pay isn't just $75k minus $17.5k, right? There are all these credits on our tax returns - like in her case, there's a $5,300 credit for something or other. Plus regular income tax on top of self-employment tax? And deductions for business expenses? I feel like I'm missing something fundamental about how this all works. How do you guys actually figure out what your real "paycheck" is when you're self-employed? Any formulas or rules of thumb?

The math for self-employment income can definitely be confusing! Here's how to think about it: Your take-home pay is essentially: Gross Income - Business Expenses - Taxes 1. Start with your gross income ($75k in your friend's case) 2. Subtract all legitimate business expenses (supplies, software, travel, etc.) 3. This gives you your net business profit 4. From this profit, you need to subtract: - Self-employment tax (15.3% of 92.35% of your net profit) - Income tax (based on your tax bracket after deductions) Remember you can deduct 50% of your self-employment tax on your income tax return. And those credits you mentioned reduce your final tax bill. The simplest way to estimate monthly take-home is: (Annual Net Profit - Annual Estimated Taxes)/12 If your friend is setting aside roughly 25-30% of net profit for taxes, that's usually in the right ballpark depending on their specific situation.

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This is helpful, but I'm still confused about the quarterly estimated payments. Like, do I need to calculate all this every three months? And what happens if I don't pay enough throughout the year?

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For quarterly estimated payments, you're basically trying to pay your annual tax bill in four installments. The IRS wants you to pay as you earn, similar to how W-2 employees have taxes withheld from each paycheck. If you don't pay enough throughout the year, you might face underpayment penalties. To avoid these, you generally need to pay either 90% of your current year tax or 100% of your previous year's tax (110% if your AGI was over $150,000) through your quarterly payments.

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CosmicVoyager

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Ravi Kapoor

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Does it also help with calculating quarterly payments? That's the part that always trips me up. I either pay way too much or not enough and get hit with penalties.

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Freya Nielsen

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Sounds like an ad tbh. Does it actually work with complicated situations? I have self-employment income plus rental income and some stock dividends. Most tools can't handle that mix correctly.

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CosmicVoyager

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Omar Mahmoud

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Chloe Harris

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How does this actually work? Like, does the IRS know you're using a service to call them? And do they actually answer specific questions about calculating self-employment income?

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Diego Vargas

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Omar Mahmoud

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NeonNinja

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I use a super simple formula for estimating my take-home pay as a freelancer. Take gross income, subtract business expenses to get net profit. Set aside 15.3% of that for self-employment tax, then another 15-25% for income tax (depending on your bracket). What's left is roughly your take-home. So for your friend making $75k: - Let's say $10k in business expenses - Net profit = $65k - SE tax = ~$10k (15.3%) - Income tax = ~$10-16k (15-25%) - Take-home = ~$39-45k This isn't perfect but gives you a ballpark. I always set aside 30% of every check I get into a separate tax account to be safe.

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Thanks for this breakdown! But what about the tax deductions for health insurance premiums and retirement contributions? I've heard those can make a big difference for self-employed folks.

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NeonNinja

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Good point! Self-employed health insurance premiums are generally deductible "above the line" which means they reduce your adjusted gross income. Same with retirement contributions to SEP IRAs, Solo 401(k)s, etc. So if your friend pays $6,000 annually for health insurance and puts $10,000 into a SEP IRA, that could reduce their taxable income by $16,000, which would save roughly $4,000-5,000 in income taxes depending on their bracket. That would increase their take-home by the same amount.

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Sean Murphy

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Has anyone found a good app for tracking self-employment income and expenses that also estimates your quarterly tax payments? I've tried a few but they're either too complicated or don't calculate taxes accurately.

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Zara Khan

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I've been using QuickBooks Self-Employed for about 2 years now. It automatically tracks mileage, lets you categorize expenses, and calculates your quarterly tax payments. It's not perfect (sometimes categorizes things wrong), but it's been pretty close on the tax estimates.

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