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Freya Thomsen

How do you calculate a self-employed person's take home pay after taxes?

Hey everyone, I'm struggling to figure out how to calculate actual take home pay for self-employed people. A few of my friends and I started freelancing this year, and we're confused about the math. For example, one of my friends made about $78k in gross income. She paid around $18k in self-employment taxes throughout the year. But I'm pretty sure we can't just subtract that from the gross to figure out the actual take home pay, right? There are all these credits on our tax returns too. Like in her case, she had a child tax credit of $3,600. Then there's the QBI deduction and health insurance deductions... it gets so complicated. How do you guys actually calculate what a self-employed person truly brings home after ALL the taxes and everything? Is there a formula or something? I feel like I'm missing something obvious here.

The calculation for self-employed take home pay is definitely more complex than just subtracting your self-employment taxes from gross income. Here's a simplified breakdown: Start with your gross income (all the money you earned from self-employment). Then subtract your business expenses - these are costs directly related to running your business. This gives you your net business income. From your net business income, you'll need to account for: Self-employment tax (15.3% of net business income, though you can deduct half of this on your taxes), income tax (varies based on your tax bracket), and don't forget to factor in any tax credits or deductions you qualify for (like the QBI deduction which is 20% of qualified business income for most self-employed people). The formula would look something like: Take Home Pay = Gross Income - Business Expenses - Self-Employment Tax - Income Tax + Tax Credits

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Thanks for explaining! I'm still a bit confused about the QBI deduction. Does that actually reduce my self-employment tax or just my income tax? And do I calculate that before or after I figure out my SE tax?

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The QBI (Qualified Business Income) deduction only reduces your income tax, not your self-employment tax. The calculation order matters - you first calculate your net business income, then calculate your self-employment tax based on that amount, and the QBI deduction doesn't affect this calculation. The QBI deduction (generally 20% of your qualified business income) comes into play when calculating your income tax. It effectively reduces your taxable income for income tax purposes, but again, it doesn't reduce the self-employment tax base. This is one reason why self-employment taxes often feel higher than expected.

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Does it help you figure out how much to set aside each month? That's my biggest struggle - I never know if I'm saving too much or too little for taxes.

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I'm skeptical about these online calculators. How accurate is it with state taxes too? I live in California and feel like I'm getting destroyed by both federal and state taxes as a freelancer.

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One thing nobody mentioned yet is that you need to keep enough cash flow for irregular expenses. I calculate my take-home pay by doing this: Annual Revenue - Business Expenses = Net Business Income Net Business Income × 0.9235 × 0.153 = Self-Employment Tax (Net Business Income - Half of SE Tax) × Income Tax Rate = Income Tax Take-Home Pay = Net Business Income - SE Tax - Income Tax But then I set aside about 10% of my take-home pay for months when business is slow. Better to have extra savings than not enough!

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What do you mean by "Net Business Income × 0.9235"? I've never seen that factor before. Is that some kind of deduction?

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That 0.9235 factor is part of how self-employment tax is calculated. It represents the fact that only 92.35% of your net business income is subject to self-employment tax. The IRS allows this reduction because it's meant to give self-employed people a break equivalent to the employer-side FICA that employees don't pay. It effectively reduces your self-employment tax base by 7.65%. It's not a huge amount, but it does help lower your overall tax burden a bit. This adjustment is built into the Schedule SE tax form, but many people don't realize why that calculation is happening.

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Does anyone use any good spreadsheets or apps to track all this? I'm making about $5,500/month freelancing and setting aside 25% for taxes but have no idea if that's right. Honestly tax time is so stressful every year.

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I use YNAB (You Need A Budget) to track everything. I set up separate categories for federal, state, and SE tax. Then I put 15.3% of net income into SE tax, 15% into federal income tax, and 5% into state tax. Seems to work pretty well for my situation.

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Setting aside 25% might be close, but it really depends on your specific situation! With $5,500/month ($66k annually), you'll want to factor in the QBI deduction which can significantly reduce your income tax burden. Here's a rough breakdown for your income level: - Self-employment tax: ~15.3% of net income (after the 0.9235 adjustment) - Federal income tax: Varies by deductions/credits, but likely 12-22% bracket - State tax: Depends on your state I'd recommend using a more precise calculator or spreadsheet that accounts for the QBI deduction, standard deduction, and any business expenses you have. You might actually be over-saving, which means you're missing out on cash flow you could be using for business growth or personal expenses. The stress is real though - I used to lose sleep over whether I was setting aside enough. Having a more accurate system has been a game changer for my peace of mind.

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This is really helpful! I'm new to freelancing and had no idea about the QBI deduction or that 0.9235 adjustment factor. I've been setting aside a flat 30% of everything I earn, which sounds like it might be way too much based on what everyone's saying here. Do you have any recommendations for those calculators or spreadsheets you mentioned? I'd love to get a more accurate picture of what I actually owe rather than just guessing and potentially over-saving. The cash flow issue is real - I could definitely use that extra money for equipment upgrades or marketing.

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