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Hailey O'Leary

Where do I find my actual taxes owed as a self-employed person on my tax forms?

So I had to get a filing extension this year because there were some issues with my forms. My accountant prepared everything but honestly does a terrible job explaining anything to me, and I'm kinda done with asking her questions at this point. I'm self-employed and I'm trying to figure out exactly where on my tax forms I can see how much I actually owe in taxes. Last year was weird because somehow I ended up owing zero taxes even though I'm pretty sure when I looked at my forms it showed that I had some taxable income. I made about $62,000 last year from my freelance work, so I'm confused how I didn't owe anything. I'm trying to understand my tax situation better this year so I can plan ahead. Which line on my tax return actually shows what I owe as a self-employed person? Is it on the 1040? Schedule C? And how do self-employment taxes factor in versus regular income tax? I feel like I should know this by now but taxes have always been a mystery to me.

The confusion is understandable! For self-employed individuals, your tax liability shows up in a few different places on your return. First, check your Form 1040 - Line 24 shows your total tax which includes both income tax and self-employment tax. This is what you actually owe the IRS in total. The self-employment tax specifically is calculated on Schedule SE and gets transferred to Schedule 2, then eventually to your 1040. This tax covers your Social Security and Medicare contributions (15.3% of your net earnings). Your Schedule C shows your business profit/loss, which feeds into your 1040 as income. So while Schedule C itself doesn't show what you owe, it determines how much of your self-employment income is taxable. If you owed zero last year despite earning $62,000, you likely had some combination of deductions, credits, or estimated tax payments that offset your liability. Business expenses on Schedule C, retirement contributions, health insurance deductions, and the QBI deduction can significantly reduce what you owe.

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Thank you for breaking that down! So Line 24 on the 1040 is the total combined amount. That helps a lot. Looking at my Schedule C from last year, I did have quite a few business expenses. Is there a way to see how those specifically reduced my tax burden? And what is this QBI deduction you mentioned - is that something all self-employed people get?

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To see how your business expenses reduced your tax burden, look at Schedule C - the difference between your gross income (Line 7) and your net profit (Line 31) shows how much your expenses saved you from being taxed on. Every dollar of legitimate business expense essentially saved you about 15.3% in self-employment tax plus whatever your income tax rate is. The QBI (Qualified Business Income) deduction allows most self-employed people and small business owners to deduct up to 20% of their qualified business income. It's on Line 13 of your 1040 Schedule 1. This deduction was introduced with the 2017 tax law and is available through 2025 for most self-employed individuals with income under certain thresholds (for 2025, it starts phasing out at $189,400 for single filers and $378,800 for married filing jointly).

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Does this actually work with self-employment taxes? My accountant just hands me the completed return without explaining anything, and I never know if I'm overpaying on my quarterly estimates.

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Have you checked Schedule SE? That's where your self-employment tax is calculated. The amount from there gets transferred to Schedule 2, then to your 1040. If you earned $62k last year but owed nothing, you probably had enough business expenses on your Schedule C to lower your taxable income significantly, plus you might have made estimated tax payments throughout the year that covered your liability. Also, look at Line 24 on Form 1040 - that's your total tax (including self-employment tax). Line 37 shows if you owe additional tax or are getting a refund after accounting for payments you've already made.

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I'll check Schedule SE - that might be what I've been missing. So after my Schedule C shows my profit, that profit goes to Schedule SE to calculate the self-employment tax portion? Do tax credits also factor into why I might have owed zero last year? I remember I did have some education expenses.

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Yes, exactly! Your net profit from Schedule C (Line 31) transfers to Schedule SE where your self-employment tax is calculated. That amount then flows to Schedule 2 and ultimately to your Form 1040. Tax credits absolutely could explain owing zero. Credits directly reduce your tax liability dollar-for-dollar, unlike deductions which only reduce your taxable income. Education credits like the Lifetime Learning Credit or American Opportunity Credit can significantly reduce what you owe. Check Line 20 of your 1040 to see what credits you claimed. If your total credits were equal to or greater than your tax liability, that would explain owing nothing despite having income.

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make sure u look at schedule 2 line 4! that tells u ur self-employment tax but not ur income tax. u need to add both to see what u really owe total. also if u made estimated payments last year but don't remember, check line 26 on ur 1040 to see how much u already paid. sometimes when people think they "didn't owe taxes" it's actually that they already paid enough through estimated payments.

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This is exactly right! I'm self-employed too and was confused for YEARS about this. Your actual tax owed is a combination of income tax and self-employment tax. Schedule 2 line 4 shows just the SE tax portion (the 15.3% for Social Security and Medicare). When you look at Form 1040 line 24, that's the TOTAL tax. Then line 33 shows what you already paid in estimated payments. Line 37 is the final verdict - what you still owe or what you'll get refunded.

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Thanks everyone for the detailed explanations! This is super helpful. I'm definitely going to pull out my 2024 return and go through it line by line with all these references. One follow-up question - when you're self-employed, how do you figure out what your quarterly estimated payments should be for the current year? My accountant just tells me a number but never explains how she calculated it. I'd love to understand the logic so I can adjust if my income changes throughout the year. Also, are there any good resources for learning more about self-employment taxes in general? I feel like I need to educate myself better so I'm not so dependent on my accountant for basic understanding.

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For quarterly estimated payments, the basic rule is you need to pay either 90% of this year's tax liability or 100% of last year's tax liability (110% if your prior year AGI was over $150k). So if you owed $8,000 total last year, you'd need to pay at least $2,000 per quarter this year to avoid penalties. You can calculate it yourself by taking your expected annual profit from Schedule C, multiplying by 15.3% for self-employment tax, then adding your estimated income tax based on your tax bracket. Don't forget to account for the QBI deduction mentioned earlier - that can reduce your taxable income by up to 20%. For resources, IRS Publication 334 (Tax Guide for Small Business) is really comprehensive but dry. The IRS also has Publication 505 for estimated tax payments specifically. I've found that once you understand the basic flow from Schedule C → Schedule SE → Form 1040, it all starts making sense. The key is just knowing which forms feed into which other forms.

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I'm going through the same struggle with understanding my self-employment taxes! Reading through all these explanations has been incredibly helpful - I had no idea about the flow from Schedule C to Schedule SE to Form 1040. One thing that's been confusing me is the timing of everything. If I'm making quarterly estimated payments based on last year's tax liability, but my income is significantly higher this year, how do I avoid getting hit with a big tax bill at the end of the year? Also, for those who mentioned the QBI deduction - is this something that gets calculated automatically by tax software, or do you have to specifically claim it? I've been doing my own taxes with TurboTax but I'm not sure if I've been missing out on this deduction. The idea of actually understanding my tax forms instead of just blindly trusting my software sounds really appealing. I feel like I've been flying blind for too long!

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Great questions! For the timing issue with higher income, you can actually adjust your quarterly payments mid-year. The safe harbor rule protects you from penalties if you pay 100% of last year's liability (or 110% if high income), but if you know you'll owe more, it's smart to increase your payments to avoid a big bill in April. I calculate my estimated payments by taking my projected annual profit, multiplying by about 30% (covers both SE tax and income tax for most brackets), then dividing by 4. If my income jumps significantly in Q2 or Q3, I'll bump up my remaining payments. For the QBI deduction - TurboTax should calculate it automatically if you're eligible! It shows up on Form 8995 (or 8995-A for higher incomes) and flows to your 1040. Most self-employed folks qualify for the full 20% deduction unless you're in certain service businesses or have really high income. Check your prior returns - if you had self-employment income, you probably got this deduction without even realizing it. The key is understanding that your tax software is doing all these calculations behind the scenes, but knowing the flow helps you spot potential issues or missed deductions!

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This thread has been so helpful! I'm also self-employed and have been struggling with the same issues. Reading through everyone's explanations, I finally understand the flow: Schedule C (business profit) → Schedule SE (self-employment tax calculation) → Schedule 2 → Form 1040 Line 24 (total tax owed). I think the key insight for me was realizing that when people say they "owed zero taxes" it doesn't necessarily mean they had no tax liability - it often means their estimated payments, deductions, and credits covered their total tax bill. For anyone still confused like I was, here's my simplified takeaway: - Schedule C shows your business profit/loss after expenses - Schedule SE calculates your 15.3% self-employment tax on that profit - Form 1040 combines everything to show your total tax liability - Line 24 = what you owe total, Line 33 = what you already paid, Line 37 = final amount owed or refunded The QBI deduction mentioned earlier can be huge too - up to 20% off your business income for most self-employed folks. Definitely worth double-checking that you're getting this on your returns! Thanks to everyone who shared their knowledge here. This community is amazing for helping each other navigate these confusing tax situations.

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This is such a helpful breakdown! I'm new to being self-employed (just started freelancing this year) and I've been dreading tax season because everything seemed so complicated. Your simplified flow chart makes it much clearer - I had no idea there were so many different forms involved but now I can see how they connect. One question for the group - when you say "estimated payments," are these something you have to set up manually with the IRS, or does your tax software handle that? I've been setting aside about 25% of my income but I haven't actually been making quarterly payments yet. Should I start doing that now even though it's my first year? Also really glad to learn about the QBI deduction - 20% sounds significant! I'll definitely make sure to look for that when I file.

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