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Laila Fury

Understanding How Self Employment Tax Works When You Have Both W2 and 1099 Income

Hey everyone! I'm in a bit of a tax situation this year that I've never dealt with before. I've been working at a marketing agency full-time (W2) but also picked up some freelance design work on the side (1099) to help pay off some student loans. Now I'm trying to figure out how the self-employment tax works when you have both types of income. From what I understand, I'll owe regular income tax on ALL my income combined, but then there's this additional self-employment tax that only applies to my 1099 earnings? I'm making about $68,000 from my regular job and earned around $12,400 from freelancing this year. Do I need to be making quarterly estimated tax payments on this freelance income? I honestly haven't been, and now I'm worried I'll get hit with some kind of penalty when I file in April. Also, can I deduct business expenses from my freelance work to reduce the self-employment tax? I've been tracking things like software subscriptions and my new laptop. Any advice would be super appreciated - I'm trying to avoid any surprises when tax season hits!

You've got the basic idea right! When you have both W2 and 1099 income, you'll pay normal income tax on your combined earnings, but self-employment tax only applies to your self-employment (1099) income. Self-employment tax is basically both the employer and employee portions of Social Security and Medicare taxes (15.3% total). Since you're both the employer and employee for your freelance work, you're responsible for the full amount. Yes, you should be making quarterly estimated tax payments on your freelance income if you expect to owe $1,000+ in taxes. Since you've earned $12,400 in freelance income, you'll likely owe around $1,900 in self-employment tax plus regular income tax on that amount. You might face an underpayment penalty, but it's typically not massive. And absolutely yes - deduct those business expenses! Software subscriptions, equipment like your laptop (though this may need to be depreciated), home office deduction if applicable, and other business-related costs can reduce your self-employment income, which reduces both your income tax and self-employment tax.

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Simon White

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Thanks for the explanation! One thing I'm confused about - if my regular job already took out Social Security and Medicare taxes up to the maximum amount, do I still have to pay the full 15.3% on my self-employment income? Also, is there any way to avoid the underpayment penalty at this point?

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For Social Security, there's an annual wage base limit ($160,200 for 2025), so if your combined income exceeds that, you won't pay Social Security tax on the excess amount. However, your W2 + 1099 income totals $80,400, which is below the limit, so you'll still pay the full Social Security portion on your self-employment income. To avoid or reduce the underpayment penalty now, you could increase your W2 withholding for the remainder of the year by submitting a new W-4 to your employer requesting additional withholding. The IRS generally waives the penalty if you've paid at least 90% of this year's tax liability or 100% of last year's tax liability (110% if your income was over $150,000), whichever is smaller.

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I've tried so many tax tools but always feel like they miss things specific to freelancers. Can you actually talk to someone if you have questions, or is it just software? Also wondering if it helps with state taxes too?

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Don't forget you can deduct half of your self-employment tax on your tax return! So if you end up paying $1,900 in SE tax on your freelance income, you can deduct $950 as an adjustment to income. A lot of people miss this deduction. Also, if your freelance work is in the same field as your W2 job, be careful about deducting home office expenses. The IRS looks closely at this, especially if your employer provides you with an office. Keep excellent records of when and how you use the space exclusively for your self-employment work.

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Callum Savage

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I've always been confused about the home office deduction. If I do my freelance design work at the same desk where I sometimes do my regular job remotely, can I still claim part of it as a home office for the self-employment portion?

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The key word is "exclusively" - the IRS requires that any space you claim as a home office must be used exclusively for your business. If you're using the same desk for both your W2 remote work and your freelance work, you technically wouldn't qualify for the home office deduction. However, if you have a separate space that you use only for your freelance work, even if it's just a dedicated corner of a room with a different desk, that specific area could qualify. Many freelancers set up a separate workstation specifically to satisfy this requirement. Just be prepared to document and defend this if you're ever audited - maybe take pictures of your dedicated freelance workspace.

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Ally Tailer

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Something nobody mentioned yet - since you have a regular W2 job, you could increase your withholding there to cover the taxes from your self-employment income. Just submit a new W-4 to your employer and put the additional amount you want withheld on line 4(c). This way you don't have to mess with quarterly estimated payments, and as long as you withhold enough through your W2 job, you won't face underpayment penalties. It's what I do with my teaching job to cover taxes for my tutoring side gig.

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This is brilliant and so much easier than tracking quarterly payments! Do you have any formula for figuring out how much extra to withhold? Like is it just 30% of whatever you make from 1099 work or something?

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CyberSiren

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A rough rule of thumb is to set aside about 25-30% of your 1099 income for taxes (this covers both income tax and self-employment tax). So if you made $12,400 in freelance income, you'd want to withhold an extra $3,100-$3,700 from your W2 job throughout the year. But it really depends on your tax bracket. Since you're making $68K from your W2 job, you're probably in the 22% federal bracket, so you'd owe about 22% income tax plus 15.3% self-employment tax on your freelance income. That's roughly 37% total, but you can deduct half the SE tax and any business expenses, so 30% is usually a safe estimate. The IRS has a withholding calculator on their website that can help you get a more precise number based on your specific situation. Just plug in your W2 income, expected 1099 income, and any deductions you plan to take.

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Hannah White

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Great question about the W2/1099 combo! I went through this exact same situation a few years ago and learned some hard lessons. A couple additional points that might help: First, don't panic too much about the underpayment penalty - it's usually not as scary as it sounds. The IRS charges interest on what you owe, but if this is your first year with significant 1099 income, the penalty might be relatively small compared to the stress you're feeling about it. Second, make sure you're tracking ALL your business expenses throughout the year, not just the obvious ones. Things like mileage to client meetings, business meals (50% deductible), professional development courses, and even bank fees for your business account can add up. I use a simple spreadsheet to log everything monthly. Also, consider opening a separate checking account for your freelance income and expenses - it makes record keeping so much easier and looks more professional if you ever get audited. Even if it's just a free account, having that separation between personal and business finances will save you headaches later. One last tip: start putting 25-30% of each freelance payment into a separate savings account immediately when you get paid. That way you're not scrambling to find tax money later, and if you end up owing less than expected, it's like getting a bonus!

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This is such helpful advice, especially about the separate savings account! I just started freelancing this year and have been putting everything into my regular checking account. Question though - when you say 25-30%, is that before or after business expenses? Like if I make $1000 on a project but spend $200 on software and supplies, do I set aside 25-30% of the full $1000 or just the $800 profit?

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