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Fatima Al-Farsi

Quarterly taxes on self employment income vs. W-2 withholding - which is better?

Hey all, I'm in a weird position with my taxes this year and could use some advice. I've been working as a freelance graphic designer for about 8 months now after leaving my corporate job. I'm making around $3,800-4,500 per month from various clients but haven't paid any quarterly taxes yet (yikes). My husband still has a regular W-2 job where they withhold taxes. We've always filed jointly. I'm trying to figure out if I need to make quarterly payments on my self-employment income or if his withholding might cover enough that we won't get penalized. Does anyone know how this works when one spouse has W-2 withholding and the other has self-employment income? Can his withholding count toward what I'd owe on my freelance stuff? Or do I absolutely need to make those quarterly payments? The IRS website is confusing me more than helping tbh.

Dylan Wright

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You're definitely not alone in this confusion! When you're married filing jointly, the IRS looks at your combined tax situation, not separate obligations. This means your husband's withholding can potentially cover both of your tax liabilities. Here's what you need to consider: If your husband's W-2 withholding will cover at least 90% of your total 2025 tax liability (including your self-employment income) OR 100% of your 2024 tax liability (110% if your AGI was over $150,000), then you don't need to make quarterly payments. To figure this out, estimate your total combined income for 2025, calculate the approximate tax (including self-employment tax on your freelance income), and compare that to what your husband is having withheld. If there's a significant gap, you might want to either increase his withholding or start making quarterly payments.

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Thanks for explaining! So if we made about $110,000 combined last year (when I was still W-2) and my husband's withholding this year will be around $14,000, how do I know if that's enough to cover us both? Our combined income will be roughly similar, just the sources are different.

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Dylan Wright

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For the combined income of roughly $110,000, you'd need to account for both income tax and self-employment tax. Self-employment tax is roughly 15.3% on your net business income (after deductions). So if you're making $45,000-$54,000 annually from freelancing, you'd owe about $6,900-$8,260 in self-employment tax alone, plus regular income tax on that amount. Your husband's $14,000 withholding might cover your regular income tax if that's similar to previous years, but it likely doesn't account for the additional self-employment tax. I'd recommend either increasing his withholding by submitting a new W-4 or starting quarterly payments to cover the difference. This helps avoid underpayment penalties when you file.

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Something important that nobody's mentioned yet - make sure you're tracking all your business expenses properly! This significantly reduces your self-employment income and therefore the quarterly taxes you'd owe. As a freelancer, you can deduct things like home office, portion of internet/phone, software subscriptions, equipment, professional development, etc. Even things like mileage for client meetings. This can easily reduce your taxable self-employment income by 25-30%.

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This is super helpful! I've been keeping receipts but wasn't sure what counts as a legit business expense. For my home office, is there a specific formula to calculate that deduction? And do I need any special documentation for these deductions?

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For your home office, you can use the simplified method of $5 per square foot (up to 300 sq ft) or the regular method where you calculate the percentage of your home used for business and apply that to your housing expenses. Most freelancers find the simplified method easier unless you have a large dedicated space. As for documentation, keep all receipts and maintain a log that notes the business purpose for each expense. For things like mileage, keep a log of dates, destinations, and business purposes. Digital receipts are fine - just make sure they show what was purchased, date, and amount. The IRS doesn't require you to submit these with your return, but you'd need them if you're ever audited.

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AstroAlpha

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I wish I'd known earlier bout quarterly taxes when i started freelancing!! Got hit with a $850 penalty last year cuz I thought i could just pay everything at tax time like with my old job 😭

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Yara Khoury

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Same thing happened to me my first year. If you can show reasonable cause (like you didn't know about the requirement), sometimes you can get the penalty waived. Worth calling the IRS to ask about penalty abatement for first-time offenders.

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