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Mateo Lopez

Question about W-2 withholding vs 1099-NEC self-employment tax - paying way more than expected?

I need some help figuring out what's going on with my tax situation this year. I just finished filing and got hit with a much bigger tax bill than I was expecting. So here's my situation - I have a full-time remote position that provides a W-2, plus I do some freelance work on the side that gives me 1099-NEC income. I had mentally prepared myself to pay the 15.3% self-employment tax on my freelance income, but when everything was calculated, I owed WAY more than that. Looking at everything more closely, I'm starting to think the issue might be that my main employer isn't taking out enough in withholdings each paycheck throughout the year, rather than the 1099 work being the main culprit. I've been going through all the numbers in TurboTax trying to understand exactly what's happening. It seems like TurboTax might not be including something important in the calculations, but the program cut me off before I could finish reviewing everything. Has anyone dealt with this before? How do I figure out if my W-2 job is withholding enough, and how do I fix it for next year so I'm not blindsided by another huge tax bill? I'm really confused about where this extra tax amount is coming from.

This is actually pretty common when you have both W-2 and 1099-NEC income. The issue is likely twofold: First, your W-2 withholding is probably calculated as if that's your only income. When you add self-employment income on top, it pushes you into higher tax brackets, but your W-2 withholding doesn't account for this. Second, you're right that self-employment income gets hit with that 15.3% SE tax, but it's also subject to regular income tax on top of that. So you're actually paying both your regular income tax rate PLUS the 15.3% SE tax on your 1099 earnings. To fix this for next year, you have two options: 1) Adjust your W-2 withholding by submitting a new W-4 to your employer asking for additional withholding, or 2) Make quarterly estimated tax payments for your self-employment income. Personally, I think option 1 is easier if your freelance income is somewhat predictable.

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Mateo Lopez

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Thanks for explaining this! I think you're right that my W-2 job is only withholding as if that's my only income. That makes a lot of sense. When you say I should submit a new W-4, is there a specific amount I should request for additional withholding? Is there some calculation I can do based on my expected 1099 income? Also, what about deductions for my freelance work? I've been tracking my expenses but I'm not sure if I'm claiming everything I should be.

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For your W-4, a rough calculation would be to take your expected annual 1099 income, multiply by your tax bracket percentage (e.g., 22% if you're in that bracket), then add another 15.3% for self-employment tax. Divide that total by the number of pay periods, and that's approximately what you should add as extra withholding. For deductions, you absolutely should be tracking all legitimate business expenses. Common ones include: home office (if you have dedicated space), internet (business portion), software subscriptions, professional development, business travel, and equipment. Make sure you're completing Schedule C to claim these expenses against your 1099 income before calculating your self-employment tax.

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I had almost the exact same situation last year. If your W-2 job is your main source of income, the simplest fix is to adjust your W-4. Here's what I did: On my W-4, line 4(c) "Extra withholding," I added $250 per paycheck. I calculated this based on my expected 1099 income for the year (about $20k) multiplied by my marginal tax rate (22%) plus the self-employment tax rate (15.3%), then divided by my number of pay periods. This has worked perfectly for me. My W-2 job now withholds enough to cover both income sources, and I don't have to worry about making separate quarterly payments. Just make sure you recalculate each year if your 1099 income changes.

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Mateo Lopez

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This is super helpful, thank you! My 1099 income is around $25k annually, and I'm paid biweekly at my main job, so I think I'd need about $275 in extra withholding per check based on your formula. I'll definitely try this approach instead of dealing with quarterly payments.

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That sounds about right for your situation. Just make sure you're accounting for any business deductions you'll claim on Schedule C, as those will reduce your taxable self-employment income. If you have significant business expenses, you might be able to reduce that extra withholding amount a bit. For example, if you have $5k in legitimate business expenses, you'd only need to calculate the extra withholding on $20k instead of the full $25k.

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Mei Wong

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One thing nobody's mentioned yet - make sure TurboTax is actually calculating your self-employment tax correctly. I had an issue last year where it wasn't properly applying the self-employment tax to my 1099 income because I entered something in the wrong section. Double-check that your Schedule SE shows the correct amount of self-employment income and that the 15.3% tax is being calculated on that amount. You might want to manually calculate it (1099 income x 0.9235 x 0.153) to verify TurboTax is doing it right.

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This is really good advice. I had the same issue with H&R Block's software last year - somehow my 1099 income wasn't flowing correctly to Schedule SE. I ended up having to file an amended return because the self-employment tax was missing entirely.

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