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Reina Salazar

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For what it's worth, you might be overthinking this. The software is just trying to determine if your state refund is taxable income. Quick rule: If you took the standard deduction (didn't itemize) on your federal return for 2022, then your state refund received in 2023 is NOT taxable. If you did itemize and included state taxes as part of your itemized deductions, then the refund might be taxable. So it's asking about state/local withholding specifically, not federal. Find boxes 17 and 19 on your W-2 like someone mentioned above.

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Caesar Grant

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That makes a lot of sense now. I was definitely mixing up the federal and state parts. Looking at my W-2s now, I can see the state withholding amounts in box 17. One more question - do I need to enter anything for local tax withholding if my state doesn't have local income taxes?

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Reina Salazar

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If your state doesn't have local income taxes, then you would just enter zero for the local tax withholding amount. Some states have both state and local income taxes (like New York with NYC tax, or Ohio with municipal taxes), while others only have state-level income tax. Just be sure to enter the state withholding amount from box 17, and if there's nothing in box 19 for local taxes, enter zero there.

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When I was doing my taxes, I spent hours trying to figure out what "state/local refund amount" meant in TurboTax. Finally realized they just want to know how much your state refunded you last year to determine if it's taxable. The key is whether you itemized or took standard deduction last year. Did you get a refund from your state for tax year 2022 that was paid to you in 2023? If yes AND you itemized in 2022, you need to report it. If you took standard deduction, you can ignore it completely.

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Demi Lagos

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This cleared it up better than anything else I've read! So simple when explained that way. Software tax questions are so confusing sometimes.

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NebulaNomad

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Former tax preparer here. One thing nobody's mentioned yet - many in-person tax preparers at those seasonal tax shops are seasonal workers with minimal training. They're often using a guided software system similar to what you'd use at home - just a professional version. The real value comes when you work with an actual CPA or EA (Enrolled Agent) who knows the tax code inside out. They can do tax planning throughout the year, not just tax preparation at filing time. But those folks typically charge $250-500+ for even basic returns.

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Javier Garcia

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Is there any way to know if you're getting someone with real expertise vs a seasonal worker? I always see those pop-up tax places and wonder about the qualification level.

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NebulaNomad

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Ask about their credentials and experience directly. Anyone can call themselves a "tax preparer," but CPAs, Enrolled Agents, and tax attorneys have specific certifications and continuing education requirements. Look for those designations. At seasonal shops, ask how many years they've been preparing taxes and what training they've received. Experienced preparers, even without formal credentials, often have valuable practical knowledge. If they start working there just a few weeks before tax season, that's a red flag. Also, ask if they work on taxes year-round or just during tax season - year-round indicates more commitment to the profession.

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Emma Taylor

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When I used FreeTaxUSA I got a $2,350 refund. Went to H&R Block the next year (similar income/situation) and got back $2,290. Year after, tried TurboTax and got $2,490. Honestly I think its just normal variation in income, deductions etc year to year. No magic bullet imo.

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Malik Robinson

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Did you itemize deductions or take the standard? I feel like that's where most people might miss stuff when using software vs a pro.

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Navigating the K2 K3 filing exceptions for partnerships and S corporations - help understanding the requirements

So I'm struggling to figure out if my business qualifies for the K2 K3 filing exception for tax year 2021. I've been reading through the IRS FAQ page and specifically Q15 about the exceptions, but honestly I'm confused about how to determine if this applies to my situation. From what I understand, there's an additional exception for certain domestic partnerships and S corporations for the 2021 tax year. But the requirements seem convoluted: - No foreign partnerships, corporations, individuals, estates or trusts as direct partners in 2021 - No foreign activity including taxes paid/accrued or assets generating foreign source income - Didn't provide certain information on Form 1065 Schedules K and K-1 (line 16) or line 20c in 2020 - No knowledge that partners/shareholders are requesting this info for 2021 I'm particularly confused about the third point regarding information that wasn't provided in 2020. How am I supposed to know exactly what was on line 16 or 20c last year? And what counts as "foreign activity" exactly? Does having a client overseas count? If we do qualify for this exception, it seems we don't need to file Schedules K-2 and K-3 with the IRS or provide them to partners. But then there's something about if a partner needs the info later, we'd still have to provide it? Any help understanding this would be greatly appreciated! I'm trying to make sure we're compliant without doing unnecessary paperwork.

Nalani Liu

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Quick tip that helped me with the K2/K3 exception determination: take screenshots of the specific lines (16 and 20c) from your 2020 return as documentation of meeting that requirement. This way if there's ever a question about why you didn't file K2/K3, you have proof that you qualified for the exception. Also, put a note in your tax file documenting your analysis of each requirement - especially regarding the "no foreign activity" determination. If you have any international clients, document why those relationships don't constitute "foreign activity" under the definition (no foreign taxes paid, no foreign source income, etc.). Better to document your reasoning now than try to reconstruct it later if questions arise.

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Axel Bourke

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Does anyone know if this exception is continuing for the 2022 tax year? I finally understand the 2021 exception but wondering if I need to prepare for K2/K3 filing for current year.

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Nalani Liu

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The exception has been modified for 2022 and future years. Starting with tax year 2022, there's a "domestic filing exception" with slightly different requirements. Partners or S corp shareholders must be notified about the intention to not provide K-3s unless requested. You'll need to review the updated guidelines for 2022, as the automatic exception isn't identical to the 2021 version we're discussing here.

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Aidan Percy

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Has anyone used any specific tax software that handles the K2/K3 exception determination well? I'm using ProSeries and it keeps flagging that I need to file these forms even though I believe we qualify for the exception.

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I had the same issue with Lacerte. You have to manually override it. There should be a checkbox somewhere in the software to indicate you qualify for an exception. In Lacerte it's buried in the K-2/K-3 input screens - there's a specific question about qualifying for the exception that you need to mark "Yes".

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Aidan Percy

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Thanks for the tip! I found the override option in ProSeries. It was in the K-2/K-3 input area under "Filing Exceptions" - there's a check box for "Qualifies for domestic filing exception" that I needed to select. The software still gives a warning but allows you to proceed without generating the schedules.

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Omar Fawaz

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I went through this exact issue last year. I ended up filing an extension and it was the right choice for me. Amending is a pain and can flag your return for extra scrutiny sometimes. Just make sure you pay enough with your extension to cover what you might owe. The 5% difference you're expecting isn't huge, so if you're expecting a refund anyway, you could just file with what you have. But if you're going to owe money, definitely do the extension and pay a bit extra to be safe.

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Chloe Anderson

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If you do file an extension, do you know if that increases your chances of being audited? I've heard mixed things about this.

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Omar Fawaz

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Filing an extension doesn't increase your audit risk at all. That's actually a common tax myth. The IRS has officially stated that filing an extension doesn't affect your chances of being audited. In fact, extensions are incredibly common - millions of people file them every year for all sorts of reasons. It's a routine process that the IRS expects. What can increase audit risk is filing an inaccurate return or having to amend later, so in that sense, waiting for correct documentation is actually the safer approach.

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Diego Vargas

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Another option to consider is contacting your employer directly and asking when they expect to issue the W-2C. Sometimes they have a timeline but don't communicate it well. I've found that a polite but firm email to HR and payroll can work wonders. If they can tell you it'll be ready within a few weeks, maybe waiting makes sense. If they're saying it could be months, then the extension route is probably best.

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This is good advice. Also worth noting that employers are required by law to provide corrected W-2s within a reasonable timeframe. If they're really dragging their feet, mentioning this requirement can sometimes light a fire under them.

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Mia Green

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Something nobody's mentioned - your friend should check if his identity was stolen. If his mom is controlling his tax docs and filing returns with fake info, she might be doing other sketchy financial stuff in his name too. He should check his credit report ASAP.

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Gianni Serpent

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That's a really good point I hadn't considered. I know she's also "managing" his student loans and I wonder if there's other financial stuff happening. I'll suggest he check his credit report right away. I think the hardest part of this situation is that his mom is definitely the one who provided these fake numbers, but she's maintaining complete innocence. Makes me wonder what else she's doing with his finances.

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Mia Green

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Yeah, unfortunately I've seen this pattern before with family members. Often there's a broader pattern of financial manipulation going on. Student loans are definitely another red flag - make sure he logs in directly to studentaid.gov to see exactly what loans are in his name. I'd also recommend he create an IRS online account at irs.gov to view his tax transcripts directly. This will show all returns filed in his name and any other tax activity. He might discover even more issues.

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Emma Bianchi

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Has anyone mentioned the Voluntary Disclosure Program? If the fraud was willful (sounds like it was on mom's part), this could help avoid criminal prosecution. More info: https://www.irs.gov/compliance/criminal-investigation/irs-criminal-investigation-voluntary-disclosure-program

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Lucas Kowalski

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The Voluntary Disclosure Program is really for major tax fraud cases where criminal prosecution is likely - typically involving offshore accounts, unreported income in the six figures, etc. This case sounds bad but probably doesn't rise to that level.

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