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One thing nobody mentioned yet - you should also be getting interest on your refund since it's from 2019! The IRS has to pay you interest for any refund delayed beyond 45 days after the filing deadline (which would obviously apply in your case). It won't be a fortune, but hey it's something! Just make sure all your math is correct before sending it in because errors will definitely delay processing.
Seriously? I had no idea they'd pay interest on delayed refunds! Do they automatically calculate that or do I need to request it somehow? And will that interest be taxable for 2025?
Yes, they calculate and add the interest automatically, you don't need to request it! The IRS adds it to any refund that's issued beyond the 45-day processing window. The interest is considered taxable income, so you'll need to report it on your 2025 tax return (the year you receive it). The IRS will send you a Form 1099-INT if the interest is $10 or more, but you have to report it regardless of the amount or whether you receive the form.
Make sure to keep copies of EVERYTHING! I mailed in a late 2017 return last year and it somehow got "lost" after delivery. Thank god I had sent it certified mail so I could prove they received it. Had to send the whole thing again with a copy of the certified mail receipt. Such a headache! If I could go back in time, I'd make copies of the entire return + all supporting documents + my certified mail receipt and put it all in a folder I wouldn't lose.
Something else to consider for child performer income - check if your state has what's called a "Coogan Law." In California, New York, Louisiana, and some other states, a percentage of a child performer's earnings must be set aside in a blocked trust account until they reach adulthood. This wouldn't show up on tax forms, but is a legal requirement in those states.
We're in Illinois. Do you know if there are any special requirements here? The commercial was for a regional grocery chain, and I don't think they mentioned anything about special accounts when we signed the contracts.
Illinois doesn't have a specific Coogan Law like California or New York, so you don't have the same legal requirement to set up a blocked trust account. However, it's still a good practice to save some of your children's earnings for their future. Since the commercial was for a regional grocery chain and the earnings were relatively modest ($1,200 each), you're mainly just dealing with the standard tax considerations that have been discussed in other comments. Just make sure to check those W-2s to see if any taxes were withheld, as that would be a good reason to file returns for them to get those withholdings back.
Another thing to consider - once your kids get a taste of that sweet commercial money, they might want to do more! My daughter started with one commercial at age .4 and now at 10 she's done dozens. Get yourself a good system for tracking their income and expenses each year. Also worth noting that if they start making "substantial" income (over $2,500 annually), you might run into the "kiddie tax" for unearned income. This doesn't apply to W-2 wages from performing, but if you invest their earnings and generate interest/dividends, that can trigger different tax rules.
I dealt with this exact same issue last year! The problem isn't you - it's how TurboTax phrases their questions about support and income types. Here's the key: For tax purposes, what matters is whether you can be claimed as a dependent, not the source of your income. Since you're 22, living on your own, and providing more than 50% of your own support, you ARE supporting yourself - period. The fact that some of that support comes from unemployment doesn't change your dependency status. The Form 8615 is ONLY for dependents with unearned income. Since you're not a dependent (regardless of your income sources), you shouldn't file Form 8615.
This makes so much sense now! I think I was overthinking the questions because unemployment feels different than a regular job, but from a dependency perspective, I'm still supporting myself. Did you end up just answering "yes" to the question about supporting yourself with earned income even though unemployment was part of your support?
Yes, I answered "yes" to supporting myself with earned income, even though a good chunk of my income was unemployment. The key is understanding what TurboTax is really asking - they're trying to determine dependency status, not doing a technical breakdown of income types. For dependency test purposes, the important thing is that you're supporting yourself (versus being supported by parents), not the technical classification of each income source. Once I answered "yes" to supporting myself, TurboTax correctly skipped Form 8615 and everything else fell into place. Form 8615 is specifically for children/students who ARE dependents and have unearned income above certain thresholds. Since you're not a dependent, that form shouldn't apply to you regardless of how much of your income is "earned" vs "unearned.
Wait I'm confused. Isn't unemployment considered earned income? I thought since you paid into unemployment insurance while working, the benefits count as earned income when you receive them?
No, unemployment benefits are definitely considered unearned income for tax purposes. Even though you might have paid into the system while working, the IRS classifies unemployment compensation as unearned income - similar to interest, dividends, or other income you didn't directly work for. This distinction matters for things like the Earned Income Tax Credit (which requires earned income), but in OP's case, the key issue isn't about earned vs. unearned income - it's about dependency status. Since they support themselves and can't be claimed as a dependent, Form 8615 wouldn't apply regardless of how their income is classified.
Just wanted to add something that might be helpful - if you're using commercial tax software, check if there's a software update available. Last year I had a similar issue with not seeing the correct tax year for an extension, and it turned out my software needed an update to show the current filing options. After updating, all the correct years appeared in the dropdown. Some companies push these updates automatically, but others require you to manually check and install them.
Thanks for this suggestion! Which tax software were you using? I'm on TaxAct for Business, and I'm wondering if that might be the issue.
I was using ProSeries when I had that issue. With TaxAct, you should be able to check for updates by going to the Help menu and looking for "Check for Updates" or something similar. If you're using their online version rather than desktop software, try clearing your browser cache or using a different browser entirely. Sometimes these issues can also be related to the subscription level you have - some tax years might not be available if your subscription doesn't cover that period. Might be worth checking with TaxAct support directly if the update doesn't resolve it.
Has anyone successfully filed a 1065 extension online this year? I'm struggling with the same issue as OP but with different software (Drake). Thinking this might be a broader problem with the IRS systems perhaps?
I filed our partnership extension last week using UltraTax and had no issues selecting the 2023 tax year (for filing in 2024). Everything processed normally. So I don't think it's an IRS-wide system issue.
Aisha Abdullah
Actually, if this was one of those "promise scholarship" or "complete these steps" programs, it's pretty common for them to issue 1099s instead of treating it as a traditional scholarship. I work at a community college and we see this ALL THE TIME with our students. The key is determining what portion of the funds went toward qualified education expenses (tuition, required books/supplies, required fees) versus living expenses or other non-qualified uses. Only the qualified portion can be excluded from income. If you transferred all the money to your personal bank account and then paid for both qualified and non-qualified expenses from there, you'll need to document which was which.
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Ethan Wilson
ā¢This is really helpful insight! Do you know if students need to provide receipts for all the qualified expenses, or is it enough to show tuition statements from the school? My daughter is dealing with something similar and we're trying to figure out what documentation we need.
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Aisha Abdullah
ā¢Students should keep receipts for books and supplies, especially if they weren't purchased directly from the campus bookstore (since those often show up on the student account statement). For tuition and required fees, the 1098-T from the school is generally sufficient documentation. What really helps is a statement from the scholarship program specifying that the funds were intended for educational purposes. If your daughter's award letter or program materials specifically mention educational use, keep those documents. If the money went directly to her rather than to the school, she'll need to show the connection between receiving the funds and paying for qualified expenses, which is where having detailed documentation becomes important.
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NeonNova
The whole scholarship taxation thing is SO confusing. From what I understand after dealing with this myself: 1. Scholarships for tuition, fees, books, and supplies required for courses = not taxable 2. Scholarships for room, board, travel, optional equipment = taxable 3. Scholarships that require you to provide a service = taxable as wages It sounds like your program might fall into category 3 since you had to complete specific "milestones" to earn the money. That's probably why they issued a 1099-NEC. But I think they should have been SUPER clear about this from the beginning rather than calling it a scholarship and then surprising you with tax forms. Could you reach out to the program administrators and ask them to explain why they classified it this way? Maybe they made a mistake.
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