Client placed rental property in S corp - Is owner compensation required?
I just took on a new client and discovered they have their rental property inside an S corporation. I know this generally isn't recommended, but that ship has sailed. What's interesting is that they've been issuing W-2s to the owners all along. I'm trying to determine if this is actually necessary though. In my mind, this is essentially a passive investment and the owners aren't really providing services that would require compensation. If this property were held in a partnership structure instead, this rental income wouldn't be subject to self-employment tax. Is there a legitimate requirement for S corp shareholder-owners to take W-2 wages in this scenario? Or are they unnecessarily complicating their tax situation? Any insights from those who've dealt with similar situations would be appreciated.
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Nia Johnson
This is a common misconception I see quite often. While you're right that rental property in an S corp isn't ideal, the compensation question requires careful consideration. The IRS expects S corporation shareholders who provide services to receive "reasonable compensation" through W-2 wages. The key question is whether the owners are providing actual services to the rental business. If they're managing the property (finding tenants, handling repairs, etc.), then yes, they should receive compensation for those services. If they're truly passive and using a property management company that handles everything, you could potentially argue against the need for W-2 compensation. Remember that the IRS closely scrutinizes S corps where shareholders take minimal or no salary while receiving distributions, as this can be seen as avoiding payroll taxes. You need to evaluate what services the owners are actually performing and document your position carefully.
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CyberNinja
•This makes sense, but I'm curious - if they stopped issuing W-2s now after doing it for years, would that raise red flags with the IRS? Also, is there a way to quantify what portion of rental income should be allocated to services vs investment return?
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Nia Johnson
•Changing an established compensation pattern can certainly attract IRS attention, especially if it results in less tax being paid. It's not automatically problematic, but you'd need to document the business reasons for the change thoroughly - perhaps the owners have genuinely stepped back from management. There's no perfect formula for determining service compensation versus investment return. For rental properties, you might consider what you'd pay a third-party property manager (typically 8-12% of gross rents) as a starting point. You'd also add reasonable compensation for any additional services the owners perform beyond basic property management. Always document your methodology to support your position if questioned.
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Mateo Lopez
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Aisha Abdullah
•How exactly does the analysis work? Did you have to upload all your docs or just answer questions about the situation? Wondering if this would apply to a client who has multiple rental properties in their S corp.
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Ethan Davis
•Sounds interesting but I'm a bit skeptical. Did they actually provide specific guidance on your situation or just general information you could find elsewhere? The S corp/rental property situation is pretty nuanced.
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Mateo Lopez
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Ethan Davis
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Yuki Tanaka
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Carmen Ortiz
•How does this service actually work? Do they just call and wait on hold for you? Seems like something I could do myself for free if I'm just patient enough.
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MidnightRider
•Sorry but I don't believe you got actual advice from an IRS agent about this. They almost never give specific guidance on these kinds of situations. They usually just direct you to publications and say "consult your tax professional." What department did you even reach?
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Yuki Tanaka
•The service basically uses technology to navigate the IRS phone tree and wait on hold for you. When an agent is about to pick up, you get a call. So instead of being stuck on hold for hours, you can keep working and just pick up when they get someone. I reached the Business & Specialty Tax Line. You're right that they don't give tax planning advice, but they confirmed the general requirements about compensation for services versus investment returns. I didn't ask them to approve my specific plan - I asked about the regulatory requirements for S-corp shareholder compensation related to rental activities, which they were able to clarify. The specific implementation still required professional judgment.
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MidnightRider
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Andre Laurent
I think everyone's missing an important technical point here. Per Rev. Rul. 74-44, an S corp must pay reasonable compensation for services rendered. But rental activities are specifically excluded from the definition of a "trade or business" under IRC 1402(a)(1) for self-employment tax purposes. So if the S corp is ONLY engaged in rental activity, and shareholders aren't providing substantial services beyond what's typical for a passive investor, there's a reasonable argument that no W-2 compensation is required.
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Zoe Papadopoulos
•But isn't the whole point of the S corp to provide liability protection while avoiding double taxation? If we're saying the rental isn't a trade or business, couldn't the IRS argue the S corp isn't serving a legitimate business purpose and potentially disregard it?
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Andre Laurent
•Great question! The business purpose doctrine doesn't require that an entity be engaged in a trade or business specifically for SE tax purposes. The S corp can still serve legitimate business purposes (liability protection, ownership structure, succession planning) while owning rental property. The distinction is important primarily for determining whether shareholder-employees need W-2 compensation. If the activities don't rise to the level requiring SE tax in other contexts, there's support for minimal or no compensation. What's critical is maintaining the distinction between return on investment versus compensation for actual services performed.
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Jamal Washington
Has anyone considered suggesting they convert to a partnership or LLC? Might be worth exploring if holding in an S corp is causing more headaches than benefits. Especially with the TCJA 199A deduction considerations.
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Mei Wong
•Converting might create even more tax issues. They'd have to deal with potential built-in gains taxes if the property has appreciated. Could be expensive depending on how long they've held it and current market values.
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CosmicCadet
I've handled several similar situations, and the key is really documenting the level of services the owners actually provide. If they're truly passive (using a property management company, minimal involvement in tenant selection, repairs handled by others), you can make a strong case for minimal or no compensation. However, I'd be cautious about completely eliminating W-2s if they've been issuing them consistently. A middle ground approach might work better - reduce the compensation to reflect only the actual services performed (maybe equivalent to what you'd pay for bookkeeping, tax prep coordination, major decision-making) while treating the rest as distributions. The documentation is crucial here. Keep detailed records of what services the owners actually perform, time spent, and how decisions are made. This will support your position whether you go with minimal compensation or argue for none at all.
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Jacob Lee
•This is exactly the approach I'd recommend as well. The documentation piece cannot be overstated - I've seen too many cases where taxpayers had reasonable positions but couldn't substantiate them when questioned. One thing I'd add is to consider creating a formal resolution or operating agreement amendment that clearly delineates what constitutes "services" versus passive ownership. This helps establish the framework upfront rather than trying to justify it after the fact. Also, if they do maintain some W-2 compensation, make sure it's consistent year-over-year unless there's a documented change in the level of services provided. The gradual reduction approach you mentioned is probably the safest path forward, especially given their history of issuing W-2s.
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Omar Fawzi
This is a nuanced situation that I've encountered multiple times in my practice. The consensus here is correct - the compensation requirement hinges on whether the owners are providing actual services versus passive investment. One practical approach I've used successfully is conducting a "services audit" with the client. Document everything: Who handles tenant screening? Lease negotiations? Maintenance coordination? Financial reporting? Even if they use a property management company, there are often oversight duties that constitute services. For clients transitioning away from W-2s after years of issuing them, I recommend a phased approach over 2-3 years while building strong documentation. Start by reducing compensation to reflect only actual services performed, then potentially eliminate it entirely if the documentation supports truly passive ownership. Also consider the state tax implications - some states may have different rules or be more aggressive in examining S corp compensation. The federal position is only part of the equation. The key is having a defensible position backed by solid documentation. Better to be conservative and pay some modest compensation than face an audit where you can't substantiate a zero-compensation position.
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Zara Mirza
•This services audit approach is brilliant and something I wish I'd thought of earlier. I'm curious about the state tax implications you mentioned - are there specific states that are particularly aggressive on this issue? Also, when you do the phased approach over 2-3 years, do you typically reduce by a set percentage each year or base it on documented changes in the level of services? I have a client in a similar situation and want to make sure I'm being appropriately conservative while not overpaying unnecessarily.
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