Can I put my rental properties in an S Corp or will the Passive Investment Tax kill me?
I've got several rental properties that I manage mostly on my own. I handle the maintenance when I can, do the turnover cleaning between tenants, advertise and screen potential renters, and all that stuff. It's not my primary source of income, but it's becoming a bigger part of my financial picture. Recently, a buddy suggested I could save a chunk of change on taxes by turning my rental business into an S Corporation. I ran some numbers and it looks like in most scenarios I'd come out ahead, especially as I acquire more properties over time. But then I stumbled across something concerning while researching. I read that if your rental income exceeds 25% of your total business income (in my case it would be 100% since that's all I do), there's this 21% Passive Investment Tax that applies to S Corps. Did I misunderstand something? This seems like it would completely negate any tax benefits and actually make things worse. Is an S Corp actually terrible for someone who's purely in the rental property business? Hoping someone here can shed some light before I make a big mistake!
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Muhammad Hobbs
Rental income through an S Corp can be tricky. You're referring to the Net Investment Income Tax (NIIT), which applies to passive income, but the way it works with an S Corp is more nuanced than what you're describing. In an S Corporation, the character of income (passive vs. active) passes through to shareholders. If you're actively involved in managing these properties, the income can be characterized as active, not passive. The key is whether you're "materially participating" in the business according to IRS standards. However, rental activities are generally considered passive by default under tax law. You'd need to qualify as a "real estate professional" and materially participate in the rental activities to treat them as non-passive. This requires working 750+ hours annually in real estate activities and more hours in real estate than any other occupation. The bigger concern may be the Qualified Business Income deduction (Section 199A), which has different rules for real estate. I'd recommend consulting with a CPA who specializes in real estate taxation before making this move.
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Noland Curtis
•When you say "material participation," what exactly does that mean? I work full-time elsewhere but spend maybe 10-15 hours weekly on my properties. Would that qualify? Also, if I don't meet the real estate professional criteria, is an LLC taxed as a partnership better?
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Muhammad Hobbs
•Material participation has specific tests defined by the IRS, including working 500+ hours per year in the activity, doing substantially all the work, or working 100+ hours and no one else works more than you. With 10-15 hours weekly, you'd reach about 500-750 hours annually, which might qualify under some tests, but likely wouldn't meet the real estate professional status since you have a full-time job elsewhere. If you don't qualify as a real estate professional, an LLC taxed as a partnership or even staying as a sole proprietor might be better. S Corps require reasonable salary payments which can actually increase your self-employment taxes for rental activities. Many successful real estate investors operate through LLCs taxed as partnerships or disregarded entities because of these complications.
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Diez Ellis
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Vanessa Figueroa
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Abby Marshall
•How does it compare to sitting down with a CPA? I'm skeptical of AI tax tools making complex entity structure recommendations since there are so many personal factors involved.
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Diez Ellis
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Abby Marshall
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Sadie Benitez
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Drew Hathaway
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Laila Prince
•This sounds like a scam. No way someone can magically get through the IRS phone system when millions of people can't. I've tried calling for THREE MONTHS about a rental property audit issue with no success.
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Sadie Benitez
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Laila Prince
I need to eat my words from my skeptical comment earlier. After waiting on hold with the IRS for 3+ hours a day for weeks about my rental property audit, I broke down and tried Claimyr out of desperation. Got connected to an actual IRS agent in about 90 minutes (while I was grocery shopping!). The agent was able to pull up my case file and confirmed that my rental property deductions were actually legitimate - the audit flag was triggered by a different issue altogether. On topic for this thread - I also asked about S Corps for rental properties while I had them on the line. The agent confirmed that pure rental income in an S Corp can potentially trigger the Personal Holding Company Tax in certain circumstances, and suggested consulting with a tax professional specifically about the "personal service corporation" rules which can affect taxation of rental activities in corporate structures. Saved me thousands in potentially disallowed deductions AND from making a bad entity choice for my rentals.
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Isabel Vega
I'm going to go against some of the advice here. I've had my 12 rental properties in an S Corp for 8 years now and it's been fantastic for tax savings. The key is that I have a property management company that's ALSO an S Corp, which charges management fees to the property-holding S Corp. This creates active income in one entity, keeps the rental income flowing properly, and lets me take advantage of the lower S Corp tax treatment for the portion related to my active management efforts. My rental S Corp pays my management S Corp a legitimate fee for services (about 12% of rents), which is in line with industry standards. This has saved me a ton compared to having everything as an LLC or sole proprietor.
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Sasha Reese
•That's an interesting structure! I'm curious - does having two separate entities with their own tax filings, records, etc. create a lot of extra administrative work? And do you take a salary from both corps or just the management one?
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Isabel Vega
•It does create some additional administrative work, but the tax savings make it worthwhile once you reach a certain scale. I have about 70 total rental units now, so the economics make sense. I wouldn't recommend this dual-entity approach for someone with just 1-3 properties because the compliance costs would eat up your savings. I only take a salary from the management S Corp, which is where my active work is performed. The rental S Corp distributes profits to me as passive income. This separation helps maintain the proper character of each income stream and optimizes my overall tax situation. My CPA charges about $2,800 annually to handle both entities' tax filings and compliance, but I save about $16,000 in taxes with this setup.
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Dominique Adams
Has anyone tried putting rentals in a C Corporation instead? I've heard mixed things about this approach too.
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Marilyn Dixon
•Don't put rentals in a C Corp! This is one of the worst possible structures for real estate. You'll face double taxation (corporate tax plus personal tax on dividends) and lose the potential for step-up basis at death. You also can't easily get the properties out of the C Corp later without triggering massive tax consequences. Almost every real estate tax attorney advises against this structure.
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Oliver Schulz
I think there's some confusion in your research about the "Passive Investment Tax." You might be mixing up a few different tax rules here. The 21% tax rate you mentioned sounds like you're thinking of the corporate tax rate, but that doesn't apply to S Corps since they're pass-through entities. What you might be concerned about is the Net Investment Income Tax (NIIT) at 3.8%, which can apply to passive rental income for high earners. The bigger issue with S Corps for rental properties is actually the opposite problem - you'd likely be required to pay yourself a "reasonable salary" for any active management work you do, which means paying employment taxes (Social Security/Medicare) on that salary. This often makes S Corps less attractive for rental activities, not more. For most rental property owners, an LLC taxed as a partnership or disregarded entity is usually more tax-efficient. You avoid the salary requirements of S Corps while still getting pass-through taxation and the ability to deduct rental losses against other income (subject to passive activity rules). Before making any entity changes, I'd strongly recommend running the numbers with a CPA who specializes in real estate taxation. The "S Corp saves taxes" advice floating around online often doesn't account for the specific complications that rental income creates.
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Miguel Hernández
•This is exactly the kind of clear explanation I was hoping for! You're right - I was definitely mixing up different tax concepts. The 21% corporate rate doesn't apply to S Corps at all since they're pass-through entities. The reasonable salary requirement is something I hadn't fully considered either. If I'm actively managing properties and have to pay myself a salary, that could actually increase my employment tax burden compared to just paying self-employment tax on the net rental income as a sole proprietor. So it sounds like the conventional wisdom about "S Corps save taxes" really doesn't apply well to rental property businesses. An LLC might be the better route for me after all. Thanks for helping me understand why I was getting such conflicting information online!
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Mateo Sanchez
I've been following this thread with great interest since I'm in a similar boat with 3 rental properties. What's really helpful is seeing how the advice changes based on scale - it seems like the dual S Corp structure Isabel mentioned makes sense for someone with 70+ units, but for smaller portfolios like mine, the administrative burden would likely outweigh the tax benefits. One thing I'm still unclear on though - if I stick with an LLC structure, should I elect S Corp taxation for the LLC, or just stay with the default partnership/disregarded entity taxation? I've heard mixed things about this hybrid approach where you get LLC liability protection but S Corp tax treatment. Does this avoid the reasonable salary requirements that make pure S Corps problematic for rentals? Also, for those who've used the AI tax tools mentioned earlier - do they account for state-specific considerations? My state has some unique rules around rental income taxation that often get overlooked in generic tax advice.
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Kayla Jacobson
•Great question about the LLC with S Corp election! Unfortunately, electing S Corp taxation for your LLC doesn't help you avoid the reasonable salary requirements - you'd still face the same issue. If you're actively managing the properties, the IRS would expect you to pay yourself a reasonable salary for that work, which brings back the employment tax burden that makes S Corps less attractive for rental activities. The hybrid approach (LLC with S Corp election) is mainly beneficial for businesses with significant active income where you want to minimize self-employment taxes on profits above your salary. For rental properties, which are generally passive by nature, you typically don't pay self-employment tax anyway when structured as a partnership or disregarded entity. Regarding state considerations - this is huge and often overlooked! Many states have different rules for entity taxation, franchise taxes, and rental income treatment. Some states don't recognize S Corp elections, while others have their own entity-level taxes that can completely change the math. The AI tools vary in their state coverage - some are better than others at incorporating state-specific rules. I'd definitely verify any recommendations against your state's specific requirements, especially since you mentioned your state has unique rental income rules. For someone with 3 properties, I'd lean toward keeping it simple with a standard LLC (partnership or disregarded entity taxation) unless your state has compelling reasons to do otherwise.
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Zara Rashid
This thread has been incredibly helpful! I'm a newer investor with just 2 rental properties and was getting ready to file for S Corp status based on some online articles I'd read. Now I understand why that would likely backfire for my situation. The explanation about reasonable salary requirements really clicked for me - I spend about 8-10 hours per week on property management tasks, so I'd definitely need to pay myself a salary in an S Corp structure. That employment tax burden would probably wipe out any savings, especially at my current scale. I'm also realizing I need to think more strategically about growth. It sounds like entity structure decisions should evolve with portfolio size - simple LLC now, but maybe considering more complex structures like Isabel's dual-entity approach if I ever scale up to 20+ units. One follow-up question for the group: For those using LLC structures, do you typically choose single-member LLC (disregarded entity) or multi-member LLC (partnership taxation)? I'm wondering if there are any advantages to bringing in a family member as a small percentage owner to get partnership taxation, or if that just creates unnecessary complications for a small portfolio.
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Natasha Petrova
•Great question about single-member vs multi-member LLC! For a small portfolio like yours, I'd generally recommend staying with a single-member LLC (disregarded entity) to keep things simple. Adding a family member just to get partnership taxation usually creates more complications than benefits at your scale. With partnership taxation, you'd need to file Form 1065, maintain capital accounts, issue K-1s, and deal with more complex tax compliance - all for minimal tax advantages when you only have 2 properties. The main benefit of partnership taxation is the ability to make special allocations of income, deductions, and gains between partners, but that's typically only valuable in more complex scenarios or larger portfolios. You'd also need to consider gift tax implications if you're giving ownership to family members. One thing to watch for as you grow: if you ever bring in outside investors or want to add a spouse for estate planning purposes, you can always convert to partnership taxation later. But for now, the simplicity of disregarded entity status (where everything just flows through to your personal return on Schedule E) is probably your best bet. The key is keeping your options open as you scale - entity structures that work great for 2 properties might not be optimal for 20 properties, so don't lock yourself into anything too rigid early on.
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Omar Zaki
This has been an incredibly educational thread! As someone who's been wrestling with the same decision for my 4 rental properties, I'm grateful for all the detailed explanations here. What's become crystal clear is that the "S Corp saves taxes" advice that gets thrown around online is dangerously oversimplified when it comes to rental properties. The reasonable salary requirements alone could wipe out any potential savings for most small-scale landlords. I'm particularly intrigued by Isabel's dual S Corp structure, but it sounds like that's really only viable once you hit a much larger scale (she mentioned 70+ units). For those of us with smaller portfolios, the administrative complexity and costs would likely eat up any tax benefits. One thing I'm still curious about - has anyone dealt with the qualified business income (QBI) deduction under Section 199A for rental activities? I've read that rental income can qualify for the 20% deduction in certain circumstances, but the rules seem complex. Does entity choice (LLC vs S Corp) affect QBI eligibility for rental income? Also, for those who mentioned getting IRS clarification directly - did you find the agents knowledgeable about these nuanced entity structure questions, or did you get conflicting answers from different agents? I'm wondering if it's worth the effort to get official guidance or if I should just stick with professional tax advice.
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Carmen Sanchez
•Great question about the QBI deduction! I've been navigating this exact issue with my rental properties. The QBI deduction for rental activities is tricky because rentals are generally considered passive, but they can qualify for the 20% deduction if they rise to the level of a "trade or business" under Section 162. The key factors are similar to what was mentioned earlier about material participation - you need to show regular, continuous, and substantial activity. Simply collecting rent usually isn't enough, but active management, maintenance, tenant screening, and property improvements can help establish it as a business activity. Entity choice does matter for QBI! With an LLC (disregarded entity), your rental income flows through on Schedule E and may qualify for QBI if you meet the business activity test. With an S Corp structure, the character of the income becomes more complex - salary doesn't qualify for QBI, but the pass-through income might, depending on how it's characterized. Regarding IRS agents - I've found their knowledge on these complex entity structure questions varies significantly. Some agents are very knowledgeable about real estate taxation, while others stick to basic guidance. It's definitely worth getting official clarification on specific factual questions, but for strategic entity planning decisions, a qualified tax professional who specializes in real estate is usually more valuable than trying to get comprehensive advice from the IRS phone line.
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Oliver Weber
This thread has been a goldmine of information! As a tax professional who works with real estate investors daily, I want to add a few clarifications that might help others avoid common pitfalls. First, regarding the original question about the "21% Passive Investment Tax" - this appears to be a confusion between several different tax concepts. There's no specific 21% tax on passive investment income for S Corps. You might be thinking of the corporate tax rate (which doesn't apply to S Corps) or mixing up the Net Investment Income Tax (3.8%) with other provisions. Second, I want to emphasize something that's been touched on but bears repeating: the "reasonable salary" requirement for S Corps is often the deal-breaker for rental property businesses. If you're actively managing properties, you're required to pay yourself a salary for that work, which subjects those earnings to employment taxes. This often negates the self-employment tax savings that make S Corps attractive for other business types. For most rental property owners with fewer than 10-15 properties, I typically recommend: - Single-member LLC (disregarded entity) for simplicity - Multi-member LLC (partnership) if you have investors or want more complex allocation options - Only consider S Corp structures once you have significant scale AND mixed active/passive income streams The dual S Corp structure mentioned by Isabel is sophisticated but requires substantial scale to justify the administrative complexity and costs. It's definitely not a DIY approach and needs ongoing professional oversight to maintain compliance. One final note on state considerations - don't underestimate how much state tax rules can affect your entity choice. Some states have franchise taxes on entities, others don't recognize federal S Corp elections, and a few have unique rules for rental income taxation. Always factor in your state's specific requirements before making entity decisions.
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Yuki Nakamura
•Thank you for this professional perspective! As someone new to real estate investing, this thread has been incredibly eye-opening. I was almost ready to rush into forming an S Corp based on some YouTube videos I'd watched, but now I understand why that could have been a costly mistake. Your point about state considerations really hits home for me. I'm in California, and I've heard they have some pretty hefty franchise taxes and unique rules that could completely change the math on entity structures. It sounds like I need to research my state's specific requirements before making any decisions. One quick follow-up question - you mentioned the single-member LLC (disregarded entity) approach for simplicity. Does this mean I'd just report everything on Schedule E of my personal tax return, similar to if I owned the properties directly? I'm trying to understand if there are any tax differences between direct ownership vs. LLC ownership when it comes to the disregarded entity treatment. Also, is there a rough rule of thumb for when someone should consider graduating from the simple LLC structure to something more complex? You mentioned 10-15 properties as a potential threshold - is that based on income levels, administrative capacity, or other factors?
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