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Luca Conti

Can I max out both my 401k and Roth IRA contributions in the same year?

Hey everyone, finance noob here with what's probably a super basic question lol. So I just started at this company that offers a 401k plan and I'm trying to figure out how to balance my retirement savings. I already have a personal Roth IRA I've been putting some money into, but now I want to take advantage of the employer match with the 401k too. I know that 401ks have a contribution limit of $23k for 2024 and Roth IRAs have a limit of $7k. What I'm wondering is - can I actually contribute the max to BOTH accounts in the same year? Like literally put $23k into my 401k AND $7k into my Roth IRA? Or is there some overall cap on retirement contributions that would prevent me from doing that? Also, are there any weird rules or income thresholds that might stop me from contributing to both, or any penalties I should know about? I'm making around $85k if that matters. Thanks for any help! Just trying to get my financial life together while I'm still young enough for it to matter.

Nia Johnson

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Yes, you absolutely can contribute the maximum to both accounts in the same year! The 401k and IRA contribution limits are completely separate from each other. For 2024, you can put up to $23,000 in your 401k (plus any employer match, which doesn't count toward your personal limit) AND up to $7,000 in your Roth IRA. There's no combined limit that restricts the total amount across different retirement accounts. The only "gotcha" to watch out for is the income limit for Roth IRA contributions. At your income level of $85k, you're still eligible for the full Roth IRA contribution. But just so you know, the ability to contribute directly to a Roth IRA starts phasing out at $146,000 for single filers in 2024 and is completely eliminated at $161,000.

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CyberNinja

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Thanks for the info! Quick follow-up question - does the employer match count towards anything? Like if my employer matches 5% of my salary, does that eat into either my 401k limit or some other limit?

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Nia Johnson

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The employer match doesn't count toward your personal $23,000 contribution limit for your 401k. That limit is just for your own elective deferrals. Your employer's contributions go toward a larger overall limit, which is $69,000 for 2024 (or 100% of your compensation, whichever is less). This overall limit includes your elective deferrals, employer contributions, and any after-tax contributions. Most people never hit this limit unless they're in a very generous profit-sharing situation or making significant after-tax contributions.

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Does that tool help figure out if I'm hitting the income limits for Roth IRA? My salary is pretty close to the cutoff and I'm never sure if I can contribute the full amount.

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Ethan Davis

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Mateo Lopez

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Andre Laurent

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One thing to consider that no one has mentioned yet - if you're going to max out both accounts (which is awesome!), think about the order of contributions: 1. Contribute enough to your 401k to get the full employer match first 2. Max out your Roth IRA 3. Go back and contribute more to your 401k up to the max This way you don't leave any "free money" on the table from your employer match, and you prioritize the Roth IRA which generally gives you more investment options and flexibility than most 401k plans.

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Luca Conti

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This is super helpful, thank you!! My employer offers a 6% match so I'll definitely make sure I hit that first. Is there any reason to prioritize the Roth IRA next before going back to the 401k? Is it just the investment options or are there other benefits?

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Andre Laurent

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The Roth IRA prioritization is mainly about flexibility and options. Most 401k plans have limited investment choices (usually 15-20 funds selected by your employer), while with an IRA you can invest in virtually anything - individual stocks, thousands of ETFs and mutual funds, etc. The other big advantage is accessibility. You can withdraw your Roth IRA contributions (not earnings) anytime without penalty, which gives you an emergency backup if you absolutely needed it. 401k money is much harder to access before retirement without significant penalties. That said, you should try not to touch retirement money early, but the flexibility is nice to have.

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Just a heads up, you might want to consider Traditional IRA vs Roth IRA based on your tax situation. At $85k, you're probably in the 22% or 24% federal tax bracket. If you expect to be in a lower bracket during retirement, a Traditional IRA might save you more in taxes over the long run.

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That's generally true about tax brackets, but keep in mind that Traditional IRA deductions phase out at much lower income levels than Roth IRA contributions if you have a workplace retirement plan. At $85k, OP might already be in the phaseout range for deducting Traditional IRA contributions.

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Great question! I'm in a similar situation and went through this exact same confusion last year. The short answer is YES - you can absolutely max out both your 401k ($23,000) AND your Roth IRA ($7,000) in the same year. These are completely separate contribution limits. At your $85k income level, you're well within the Roth IRA eligibility range, so no issues there. The only thing I'd add to what others have said is to make sure you understand your 401k plan's vesting schedule for the employer match - some companies have waiting periods before you're fully vested in their contributions. Also, since you're young and getting started, consider automating your contributions if possible. I set up automatic transfers for both accounts and it's made staying consistent so much easier. The "pay yourself first" approach really works when it's on autopilot! One last tip - keep track of your contributions throughout the year to make sure you don't accidentally over-contribute to either account. The IRS penalties for excess contributions aren't fun to deal with.

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Jason Brewer

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This is such solid advice! I'm also just starting out with retirement planning and the automation tip is something I hadn't really considered. Do you set up the automatic transfers to happen right after payday, or do you spread them out throughout the month? Also, when you mention tracking contributions throughout the year - do you just use a simple spreadsheet or is there a particular app/tool you'd recommend for keeping tabs on everything? I'm worried about accidentally going over the limits too, especially since this is all new to me.

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StarSeeker

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I set mine up to transfer right after payday - that way I never even "see" the money and can't be tempted to spend it elsewhere! For my 401k, I just have a percentage deducted from each paycheck, and for the Roth IRA, I do an automatic transfer from checking to my IRA account the day after my direct deposit hits. For tracking, I honestly just use a simple spreadsheet with columns for each month and running totals for both accounts. Nothing fancy, but I update it monthly when I review my accounts anyway. Your 401k provider and IRA custodian will also send you quarterly statements showing year-to-date contributions, so you'll get official tracking too. The key is just checking periodically - especially toward the end of the year - to make sure you're on track but not going over. The automation really is a game changer though. Once you set it up, you basically forget about it and just watch your balances grow over time!

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PrinceJoe

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This is exactly the kind of question I wish I had asked when I first started working! You're absolutely on the right track thinking about maximizing both accounts. Just to reinforce what others have said - yes, you can definitely contribute the full $23k to your 401k AND $7k to your Roth IRA in the same year. At your $85k salary, you're well below the Roth IRA income limits, so no worries there. One thing I'd suggest is running the numbers on how much this will actually impact your take-home pay. Contributing $30k total annually means about $2,500 per month, which might be aggressive depending on your other expenses and financial goals. You might want to start with getting the full employer match on your 401k, then gradually increase both contributions as you get comfortable with the cash flow impact. Also, don't forget about emergency savings! While maximizing retirement contributions is awesome, make sure you have at least 3-6 months of expenses saved up first. You don't want to be in a position where you have to withdraw from retirement accounts early because of an unexpected expense. Great job thinking about this stuff early - your future self will definitely thank you!

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This is such great advice about pacing yourself! I'm just getting started with all this retirement planning stuff and it's easy to get overwhelmed trying to max everything out immediately. The point about emergency savings is really important too - I've been so focused on retirement accounts that I hadn't really thought about making sure I have enough liquid savings first. Do you think it's better to build up the full emergency fund before starting retirement contributions, or is it okay to do both simultaneously? Like maybe contribute enough to get the employer match while building emergency savings, then ramp up retirement contributions once the emergency fund is solid? Also, when you mention running the numbers on take-home pay impact - any suggestions for tools or calculators that help figure out how much the 401k contributions will reduce your taxable income? I want to make sure I understand the tax implications before I commit to specific contribution amounts.

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Hey Luca! Congrats on starting to think seriously about retirement savings - you're definitely asking the right questions! Everyone here has given you solid advice, and yes, you can absolutely max out both accounts in the same year. The $23k 401k limit and $7k Roth IRA limit are completely separate. At $85k income, you're well within all the eligibility requirements. I'd echo what others have said about prioritizing the employer match first - that's literally free money you don't want to miss out on. Beyond that, here's my take on the strategy: 1. Contribute enough to get full employer match (sounds like 6% based on your comment) 2. Build a solid emergency fund if you don't have one yet (3-6 months expenses) 3. Max the Roth IRA ($7k) - better investment options and flexibility 4. Go back and max the 401k if you can afford it The key is finding a sustainable contribution level that doesn't stress your monthly budget. You can always increase contributions over time as your income grows or expenses decrease. Better to start with a reasonable amount you can stick with than to max everything out for a few months and then have to scale back. One practical tip: most payroll systems let you set 401k contributions as a percentage, so you might want to calculate what percentage of your gross pay gets you to your target annual contribution amount. Makes it easier to set and forget! You're starting young which is the biggest advantage you have. Even if you can't max both accounts immediately, consistent contributions over time will compound into serious wealth. Keep asking good questions like this!

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