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Aurora St.Pierre

Understanding 457b/401k special catchup rule for retirement contributions after career change

I turned 60 this year and just retired from my state government job back in March. During this year, I already contributed $40,500 to my 457b plan (this included all my unused leave that got paid out when I left). I've recently taken a part-time position that doesn't pay much, but surprisingly they offer a 401k with matching contributions even for part-timers like me. I'd really love to take advantage of this benefit, but I'm worried about contribution limits for this year given what I've already put into my 457b. If I were to contribute to this new 401k, would I be OK keeping it under $5,500 for the remainder of the year? Or should I just wait until next year to start contributing to avoid any issues with the IRS? Not sure how the special catchup rules work in this situation when you have both plans in the same year.

Grace Johnson

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The good news is that 457b and 401k plans have separate contribution limits! This is one of the unique advantages of having worked in government. For 2025, the basic contribution limit for each plan type is $23,000. Since you're over 50, you can also make catch-up contributions of $7,500 to each plan, bringing the total possible contribution to $30,500 per plan. The special catch-up provision for 457b plans allows even higher contributions in the three years before retirement age, which is why you were able to contribute $40,500 to your 457b this year. For your new 401k, you can still contribute up to the full annual limit ($23,000 plus $7,500 catch-up) regardless of what you've already put in your 457b. So your planned $5,500 contribution would be well within limits.

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Thanks so much for the clarification! So if I understand correctly, my 457b contributions don't count against my 401k limit at all? That seems almost too good to be true. Does that mean theoretically I could have contributed the full $40,500 to my 457b AND still put in $30,500 to a 401k in the same year?

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Grace Johnson

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Yes, that's exactly right! The 457b and 401k have separate limits, which is a significant advantage for government employees. You absolutely could have contributed the full $40,500 to your 457b (using the special 3-year catch-up provision) AND still put in the full $30,500 to your 401k ($23,000 base limit plus $7,500 age 50+ catch-up) in the same year. This is one of the few situations where you can essentially double your tax-advantaged retirement contributions.

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Jayden Reed

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Nora Brooks

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Does this tool also help with determining if I qualify for the special 3-year catchup provision for 457b plans? I'm approaching retirement and want to maximize my contributions, but I'm confused about whether I meet the requirements.

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Eli Wang

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I've heard about tools like this but I'm always skeptical. Does it actually look at your tax situation or is it just a generic calculator? And how does it handle the fact that some employers have weird plan rules that can limit contributions below the IRS maximum?

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Jayden Reed

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The tool absolutely helps determine eligibility for the special 3-year catchup provision for 457b plans. It asks about your normal retirement age under the plan and calculates your unused contribution amounts from previous years to maximize what you can contribute under that provision. Regarding your question about tax situation analysis, it's much more than a generic calculator. It analyzes your actual retirement account statements and tax documents to provide personalized recommendations. It also asks for your specific employer plan details to account for any unique rules your plan might have that differ from IRS maximums - in my case, it identified that my employer limited highly compensated employees to a lower contribution rate, which I hadn't realized.

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Eli Wang

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I find this hard to believe... the IRS reps I've spoken with don't even know their own tax code half the time. What makes you think they gave you accurate information? I've been given wrong info by them before, and when I called back to speak to someone else, I got completely different answers.

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Ethan Scott

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Just wanted to point out one thing that hasn't been mentioned yet - make sure you check with your 401k plan administrator about their specific timing rules. Some plans have waiting periods before new employees can contribute, or they might have specific enrollment windows. Also, consider whether you want to do traditional 401k or Roth 401k contributions if your plan offers both. At 60, and moving from full-time to part-time work, your tax bracket now might be lower than it will be when required minimum distributions kick in. This could make Roth contributions more attractive.

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That's a really good point about the Roth option. My tax bracket has definitely dropped since I'm only working part-time now. Do you think there are any advantages to traditional pre-tax contributions in my situation?

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Ethan Scott

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In your part-time situation, Roth contributions likely make more sense. Since your income is lower now, you're probably in a lower tax bracket than you'll be in during retirement, especially once you add in Social Security and Required Minimum Distributions from your existing pre-tax accounts. The advantage of traditional pre-tax contributions is immediate tax savings, but those savings are less valuable when you're in a lower tax bracket. By paying taxes now at a potentially lower rate and making Roth contributions, you'll have tax-free withdrawals later. This can also help with tax planning during retirement, giving you flexibility to draw from both taxable and non-taxable sources to manage your tax bracket each year.

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Lola Perez

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Has anyone here actually done what the OP is asking about? I'm in almost the identical situation (retired from state job, now working part-time with 401k access). My HR department at the new job got confused when I told them about my 457b contributions earlier this year. They kept saying I was over the limit already, but I showed them the IRS guidelines about separate limits.

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I did exactly this last year. Contributed the max to my 457b, then took a private sector job and contributed to their 401k. Payroll was confused at first, but I printed out IRS Publication 575 which specifically addresses this situation. Once they reviewed it with their benefits team, they processed my contributions without issue. Just be prepared with the documentation.

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I'm in a similar situation but with a twist - I'm 58 and considering whether to use the special 3-year catchup provision for my 457b or wait until I'm eligible for the regular age 50+ catchup. My state plan allows the special catchup starting 3 years before normal retirement age (which is 60 for me). One thing I learned from my benefits coordinator is that you can't use both the special 3-year catchup AND the age 50+ catchup in the same year - you have to choose whichever gives you the higher contribution limit. In most cases, the special 3-year catchup allows much higher contributions because it lets you make up for years when you didn't max out your contributions. For anyone considering this, make sure you understand your plan's normal retirement age definition. Some state plans define it differently than others, which affects when you become eligible for the special catchup provision.

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This is really helpful information about the special 3-year catchup provision! I had no idea you couldn't combine it with the regular age 50+ catchup. That's an important distinction that could save people from making contribution errors. Quick question - when you say "make up for years when you didn't max out your contributions," does that mean if I contributed $15,000 one year when the limit was $20,000, I could potentially contribute an extra $5,000 during my special catchup years? Or is there a specific formula the plan uses to calculate your unused contribution amounts? Also, do you know if this special catchup provision applies to all governmental 457b plans, or are there some that don't offer it? I want to make sure I'm not assuming something that might not apply to everyone's situation.

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