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Has anyone used TurboTax Self-Employed for this kind of situation? Would it flag this issue or just let you incorrectly deduct the W2 wages on Schedule C?
I'm an accountant and I can tell you most tax software would let you input the deduction, but it's still incorrect. Software doesn't always catch logical errors, just mathematical ones. This is definitely a situation where you need professional guidance, not DIY software.
This is exactly why I always recommend consulting with a tax professional BEFORE making any major payroll decisions. That said, you're not the first person to find themselves in this situation, and there are definitely paths forward. Given the substantial income amount ($135k), I'd lean toward the S-corp election route rather than trying to deduct the wages on Schedule C. The IRS has specific procedures for late S-corp elections with reasonable cause, and "lack of knowledge of the filing requirements" is often accepted if you can document it properly. Key steps I'd recommend: 1. Have your accountant prepare Form 2553 with a detailed reasonable cause statement 2. File Form 1120S for the corporate return immediately 3. Be prepared to show you acted in good faith and are now trying to comply properly The Schedule C route is risky because those wage deductions will almost certainly trigger an audit - the IRS systems will match your SSN as both the payer and recipient of those W2s. Time is critical here since there are deadlines for the S-corp election, so work with your accountant to get this filed ASAP. The sooner you address it, the better your chances of approval.
This is really helpful advice! I'm curious about the timing aspect you mentioned - what are the specific deadlines for the S-corp election? I've heard conflicting information about whether it needs to be filed within 2 months and 15 days of the tax year, or if there's more flexibility when filing with reasonable cause. Also, when you mention filing Form 1120S immediately, does that mean for the current tax year or do they need to go back and file corporate returns for previous periods too?
This entire thread has been incredibly valuable for someone like me who's just starting to research this situation! As a new member here, I'm amazed by how thoroughly everyone has broken down what initially seemed like an impossibly complex tax and student loan situation. I'm currently about 6 months out from a potential house sale and was completely panicking about how the capital gains would affect my income-driven repayment plan. The clarification that only the taxable portion (above the exclusion) gets included in AGI is such a relief - I was initially calculating based on the full gain amount. A few key takeaways that I'm adding to my planning checklist: - Start gathering ALL cost basis documentation now (receipts for improvements, major repairs, etc.) - Plan the closing timing strategically relative to my annual recertification date - Research my specific loan servicer's alternative documentation process before I need it - Budget for 2-3 months of potentially higher payments while alternative documentation gets processed One question for the group: has anyone dealt with this situation while also managing other major financial changes in the same tax year? We're also planning to max out retirement contributions to help offset some of the tax impact, and I'm wondering if that affects the student loan payment calculations or the alternative documentation process at all. Thanks to everyone who shared their real experiences - this community is an incredible resource for navigating these complex situations!
Welcome to the community! You're asking exactly the right questions and clearly learning a lot from everyone's shared experiences here. Regarding your question about other major financial changes in the same tax year - maxing out retirement contributions is actually a smart strategy that can help in multiple ways. Traditional 401(k) and IRA contributions reduce your AGI, which means they'll lower the income figure used for your student loan payment calculations. So if you're contributing $23K to a 401(k) and $7K to an IRA, that's $30K less AGI that your loan servicer will see. This doesn't affect the alternative documentation process itself, but it does help minimize the overall AGI spike from your house sale. In your alternative documentation letter, you can explain both the one-time nature of the capital gains AND highlight that you're maximizing retirement contributions to return to more typical spending patterns. Your planning checklist looks spot-on! I'd add one more item: contact your loan servicer now (before the sale) to ask about their specific alternative documentation forms and requirements. Some servicers have streamlined processes for capital gains situations, and knowing exactly what they need ahead of time will make the whole process smoother. You're being incredibly smart by planning this far in advance. Having that roadmap will make what seems overwhelming much more manageable when the time comes!
This thread has been absolutely incredible for someone facing this exact situation! I'm about 8 months out from selling our primary residence with an estimated $680K gain, and I was initially terrified about how it would affect our student loan payments. The clarification from multiple people (especially the tax professional) that only the taxable portion above the $500K exclusion gets included in AGI is such a huge relief. So our AGI would be our normal income plus $180K (the taxable portion), not the full $680K gain I was originally calculating. I'm definitely going to implement the proactive strategy several of you mentioned - contacting my loan servicer (Great Lakes) right after filing taxes to start the alternative documentation process before my payments automatically increase. The detailed documentation checklists people shared are going to save me so much time and stress. One thing I wanted to add that might help others - I just called Great Lakes to ask about their process for "alternative documentation of income for one-time capital gains events" and they do have a specific form called "Alternative Income Documentation Request" that's designed exactly for situations like house sales. The representative was very familiar with the process and said they typically process these requests in 4-6 weeks. Thanks to everyone who shared their real experiences - this community has turned what felt like an impossible situation into something completely manageable with proper planning!
I'm going through almost the exact same situation right now! I started my first US job in March and also accidentally marked exempt on my W4 without understanding what it meant. Like you, I panicked when I realized my mistake a few weeks ago. What's been really helpful for me is calculating exactly how much I should have had withheld so far. For someone making around your salary, you're probably looking at roughly $2,000-2,500 in missed federal withholding for those two months. It sounds like a lot, but spread across your remaining paychecks it becomes much more manageable. I ended up using the IRS withholding calculator on their website to figure out how much extra to have withheld from each remaining paycheck. It's actually pretty straightforward once you get past the initial panic. The key thing is that you caught it early in the tax year and took immediate action - that shows good faith to the IRS. One thing that gave me peace of mind was learning that the IRS really does distinguish between people who make honest mistakes versus those who intentionally try to avoid taxes. Since you're new to the US system and corrected it as soon as you realized the error, you should be in good shape!
I'm so glad to hear from someone in almost exactly the same situation! It really does help knowing I'm not the only one who made this mistake. Your timeline is very similar to mine too - I started in April and you started in March, so we're both dealing with those early months of missed withholding. I actually haven't tried the IRS withholding calculator yet, but that sounds like a great next step. I was getting overwhelmed trying to figure out the math myself. Do you remember roughly what percentage it recommended for additional withholding? I'm trying to decide between spreading it across all my remaining paychecks versus making a lump sum estimated payment. It's really reassuring to hear your perspective about the IRS distinguishing between honest mistakes and intentional avoidance. The anxiety has been keeping me up at night, but you're right that taking immediate action should work in our favor. Thanks for sharing your experience - it genuinely makes me feel less alone in this situation!
As someone who works in tax compliance, I want to reassure you that you're handling this situation perfectly. The fact that you discovered the mistake within just two months and immediately corrected it shows exactly the kind of good faith effort the IRS looks for. Here's the reality: the IRS processes millions of tax returns and deals with withholding adjustments constantly. Your situation - a new immigrant accidentally checking exempt and then quickly fixing it - is far more common than you might think. The penalties everyone worries about are really designed for people who persistently under-withhold or try to game the system. Since you've already submitted the corrected W4, my advice would be to calculate roughly what you should have had withheld (probably around $2,200-2,800 for those two months at your salary level) and then choose whichever catch-up method feels most comfortable: either increase your withholding for the rest of the year or make an estimated payment by the September 16th deadline. The most important thing is that by year-end, your total tax payments (withholding + any estimated payments) should cover at least 90% of what you'll owe. Given that you caught this in June, you have plenty of time to get there. Try not to let the anxiety consume you - you're doing everything right!
This is exactly the kind of professional reassurance I needed to hear! As someone new to the US tax system, it's so easy to catastrophize these situations when you don't have experience with how the IRS actually operates in practice. Your point about the penalties being designed for persistent under-withholders rather than honest mistakes is particularly helpful. I keep reading horror stories online about IRS penalties, but most of those seem to involve people who knowingly avoid paying taxes for extended periods. The timeline you mentioned - having until year-end to ensure total payments cover at least 90% of what I'll owe - gives me a clear goal to work toward rather than just panicking about the immediate situation. I think I'm leaning toward the increased withholding approach since it feels more systematic and ensures I won't forget to make an estimated payment. Thank you for taking the time to share your professional perspective. It really helps to hear from someone who deals with these situations regularly and can put the risk in proper context!
I'm in almost the exact same situation! W-2 job making about $75k and started an LLC for freelance graphic design that brought in around $28k this year. The tax situation has been so confusing. One thing I learned the hard way is that you definitely need to make quarterly estimated payments on your LLC income. I didn't do this my first year and got hit with underpayment penalties even though I got a refund overall. The IRS wants their money throughout the year, not just at filing time. Also, make sure you're tracking EVERYTHING for business expenses - software subscriptions, equipment, even the portion of your internet bill if you work from home. These deductions can really add up and help offset some of that self-employment tax burden. The tax bracket thing is real too. My combined income pushed me into the next bracket for part of my earnings, so I ended up owing more than I expected. Now I set aside about 35% of all LLC income just to be safe. Have you considered getting a business credit card specifically for LLC expenses? It makes tracking so much easier come tax time.
This is really helpful! I'm just starting out with my LLC and already feeling overwhelmed by the tax implications. Quick question - when you say you set aside 35% of LLC income, do you put that in a separate savings account or just keep track of it mentally? I'm worried I'll accidentally spend money I need for taxes later. Also, did you have to change anything about your W-2 withholdings once you started the LLC? I'm wondering if I should increase my withholdings from my day job to help cover the additional tax burden from the business income.
Great question! I actually do keep the tax money in a completely separate high-yield savings account that I opened specifically for business taxes. I call it my "tax jail" account - money goes in but doesn't come out until quarterly payments or tax time. This has saved me so many times from accidentally spending tax money on business expenses or personal stuff. I transfer the money there immediately when I get paid by clients, usually within a day or two. It's become such a habit that I don't even think about it anymore. The separate account also makes it super easy to see exactly how much I have set aside when it's time to make quarterly payments. As for W-2 withholdings, yes! I increased my withholdings from my day job by about $200/month to help cover some of the additional tax burden. It's not perfect coverage, but it helps reduce how much I need to pay in quarterly estimates. Some people prefer to just handle it all through quarterly payments, but I like having the extra withholding as a buffer. You can adjust your W-4 with HR pretty easily if you want to try this approach.
I'm in a very similar situation - W-2 job plus LLC income - and wanted to share what I've learned after making some costly mistakes my first year. The biggest thing that caught me off guard was the self-employment tax calculation. Even though you're already paying FICA taxes on your W-2 income, you still owe the full 15.3% self-employment tax on your LLC profits (unless you've already hit the Social Security wage cap like others mentioned). This is on TOP of regular income tax, which is why setting aside 30-35% is so important. One mistake I made was not understanding that the LLC income gets added to your W-2 income for tax bracket purposes. So if you're already close to a bracket threshold with your day job, that extra $31k could push a significant portion into the next tax bracket. For quarterly payments, I use the safe harbor rule - pay 110% of last year's total tax liability divided by 4 quarters. This way even if I have a great year with the LLC, I won't get hit with underpayment penalties. Also, don't sleep on business deductions! Home office, business meals (50% deductible), professional development, software subscriptions, equipment depreciation - they all add up. Just make sure you can document everything properly. The complexity definitely increases once you have both income streams, but it's totally manageable with good organization and planning.
This is super helpful! I'm just getting started with my LLC and had no idea about the safe harbor rule for quarterly payments. That sounds like a much more predictable way to handle it than trying to estimate what I'll make. Quick question about business deductions - you mentioned professional development is deductible. Does that include things like online courses or conferences related to my business? I've been taking some web development courses to improve my skills for client work but wasn't sure if those would qualify. Also, when you say "document everything properly" for deductions, what exactly does that mean? Like keeping receipts is obvious, but is there other documentation I should be maintaining?
Justin Evans
Has anyone actually been audited by the IRS after doing crypto wash sales? I'm wondering if they might give you extra scrutiny even if it's technically allowed. I'm down about $4k on Ethereum and would love to claim the loss but not if it puts a target on my back.
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Emily Parker
ā¢I did this last year with about $6k in losses across different coins. Claimed everything properly on my taxes, no issues. The key is being transparent - don't try to hide anything. Report all your crypto transactions accurately. The IRS knows this loophole exists, they just haven't closed it yet.
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Omar Hassan
I've been doing crypto tax loss harvesting for the past two years and can confirm it works as described. The key thing people miss is that you need to be strategic about timing. I typically do a review in November to identify positions that are down, then execute the sales and repurchases in December. One important detail - make sure you're using the same exchange or wallet for the repurchase if possible. It makes record-keeping much cleaner. Also, consider the transaction fees when calculating whether the tax benefit is worth it. On smaller losses, the fees might eat into your savings. I use a simple spreadsheet to track: original purchase date/price, sale date/price, loss amount, repurchase date/price, and new cost basis. This documentation has been sufficient for my tax preparer and gives me confidence if I ever get audited.
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Leslie Parker
ā¢This is really helpful, especially the timing strategy! Quick question about the spreadsheet tracking - do you also record the transaction IDs from the exchange? I'm wondering how detailed the records need to be. Also, have you noticed any patterns in which coins work best for this strategy, or is it pretty much any crypto that's down?
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