Can I max contribute to both Individual/Solo 401k & Roth IRA in the same tax year? Income limits question
Hey finance gurus! I've been saving like crazy this year from my freelance work and I'm trying to figure out the best retirement strategy. Question - can I max out contributions to BOTH my Individual/Solo 401k AND a Roth IRA in the same tax year? I know Roth IRAs have those pesky income limits but I'm not sure how that plays with a Solo 401k (which seems way better than the old SEP IRA options I was looking at before). I did some digging online and found stuff saying you can contribute to both a company 401k and Roth IRA, but nothing specifically about SOLO 401ks and Roth IRAs together. If it's allowed, it seems almost too good to be true - like a loophole they might close soon. Appreciate any insights from those who've done this!
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Isabella Santos
Yes, you can absolutely max out both your Solo 401k and a Roth IRA in the same tax year. The two plans have completely separate contribution limits. For your Solo 401k, as both the employer and employee, you can contribute up to $23,000 as the "employee" in 2025 (plus catch-up contributions if you're 50+). Then you can also make "employer" contributions up to 25% of your net self-employment income, with total contributions capped at $69,000. For your Roth IRA, you can contribute up to $7,000 in 2025 ($8,000 if you're 50+), but your ability to contribute directly to a Roth IRA phases out between $146,000-$161,000 for single filers or $230,000-$240,000 for married filing jointly. If your income exceeds the Roth limits, look into the "backdoor Roth" strategy where you contribute to a traditional IRA and then convert it to a Roth.
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Ravi Sharma
•Wait, I'm confused about the Solo 401k limits. So if I make like $100k from my business after expenses, I can put in the $23k as "employee" plus another $25k (25% of $100k) as the "employer"? That's huge compared to what I can do with my SEP! Does that mean I could potentially save $48k PLUS $7k in a Roth?
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Isabella Santos
•Yes, that's exactly right! With $100k of net self-employment income, you could contribute $23,000 as your "employee" contribution, plus approximately $18,587 as your "employer" contribution (the exact calculation gets a bit complex due to self-employment tax deductions). So around $41,587 total to your Solo 401k. And then you could also contribute $7,000 to your Roth IRA as a completely separate contribution, assuming your income doesn't exceed the Roth IRA limits. The Solo 401k is indeed much more powerful than a SEP IRA for most self-employed individuals because of this dual contribution capability.
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Freya Larsen
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Omar Hassan
•Does it help with figuring out if you're over the income limits for Roth IRA contributions? My freelance income fluctuates a lot and I never know if I'll be over the limit until the end of the year.
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Chloe Taylor
•Sounds interesting but does it handle quarterly estimated taxes too? My biggest headache is figuring out how much to withhold for taxes while also maximizing retirement contributions.
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Freya Larsen
•It definitely helps with the Roth IRA income limits. You can input your projected income throughout the year, and it will alert you if you're approaching the phase-out range. It even suggests when to consider a backdoor Roth conversion if you're over the limit. For quarterly estimated taxes, that's actually one of its best features. It calculates your estimated tax obligations while factoring in how your retirement contributions will reduce your taxable income. It shows exactly how much you'll save in taxes by making these contributions, which helped me determine how much to set aside each quarter.
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Chloe Taylor
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Diego Ramirez
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Anastasia Sokolov
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Sean O'Connor
One thing to watch out for - make sure you file the Form 5500-EZ for your Solo 401k if your plan assets exceed $250,000. I found this out the hard way last year! Also, if you're making Roth contributions to your Solo 401k (yes, many Solo 401k providers allow this now), that doesn't count toward your separate Roth IRA contribution limit. They're completely different buckets. The combined strategy of maxing both is killer for tax planning, especially if your business income fluctuates. In low income years, I go heavy on Roth contributions. In high income years, I max traditional Solo 401k to reduce my tax hit.
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Malik Johnson
•Oh that's super helpful, I didn't even think about the Form 5500-EZ requirement! Do you know if there's a deadline for filing that? Also - has anyone here set up a Solo 401k that allows both traditional AND Roth contributions? That sounds like it would provide amazing flexibility.
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Sean O'Connor
•The Form 5500-EZ is due by the last day of the 7th month after your plan year ends. So if your plan year follows the calendar year (ending December 31), the form would be due by July 31. You can also get an automatic extension by filing Form 5558. For Solo 401ks with both traditional and Roth options, I use Fidelity for mine and they offer this flexibility. E*TRADE, TD Ameritrade, and Vanguard also have good Solo 401k options with varying features. The key benefit is being able to split your employee contributions between Roth and traditional as needed, while your employer contributions are always pre-tax. This gives you tremendous tax flexibility year to year.
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Zara Ahmed
I messed up big time last year thinking the same rules for company 401ks applied to my Solo 401k. For regular 401ks at a job, your employer match doesn't count towards your personal contribution limit. But for a Solo 401k, your "employer hat" contributions DO count towards the overall limit. Also check out the mega backdoor Roth strategy if your Solo 401k plan allows after-tax non-Roth contributions with in-plan conversions. Not all providers offer this but if yours does its amazing for high earners.
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Luca Conti
•Actually, I think you're mixing things up a bit. For Solo 401ks, your "employer" contributions don't count toward the $23,000 employee contribution limit (or $30,500 if you're over 50). The employer portion is separate and combined with your employee contributions, the total can't exceed $69,000 for 2025 (or $76,500 if you're 50+). So you haven't messed up! Your employee and employer contributions are separate calculations, just like with a regular 401k at a job.
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Nia Johnson
Don't forget that contributing to a Traditional 401k (Solo or otherwise) reduces your Modified Adjusted Gross Income (MAGI), which can help you stay under the Roth IRA income limits if you're borderline. But Roth 401k contributions don't reduce your MAGI. This gave me a nice strategy: I contribute enough to my Traditional Solo 401k to get my MAGI just under the Roth IRA limit, then max out my Roth IRA, and if I have more to save, I put it back into my Solo 401k (either traditional or Roth portion depending on my tax situation). Just another angle to consider for tax optimization!
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Zainab Ali
This is such a great question and I'm glad to see so many helpful responses! I went through this exact same confusion last year as a freelance graphic designer. One thing I'd add that hasn't been mentioned yet - make sure you establish your Solo 401k by December 31st of the tax year you want to contribute for, even though you have until the tax filing deadline (plus extensions) to actually make the contributions. I almost missed this deadline thinking I could set it up when I filed my taxes. Also, if you're planning to do this strategy long-term, consider working with a fee-only financial advisor who specializes in self-employed clients. The tax savings and growth potential from properly maximizing both accounts can easily justify the cost, especially as your income grows. I wish I had started this dual approach earlier - the compound growth difference is significant over time. The backdoor Roth strategy mentioned earlier is also crucial to understand if your income fluctuates. Some years I'm under the Roth limit, other years I'm over, so having that flexibility has been a game-changer for my retirement planning.
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Emma Wilson
•This is exactly the kind of practical advice I was looking for! I had no idea about the December 31st deadline for establishing the Solo 401k - that could have been a costly mistake. As someone just getting serious about retirement planning, the idea of working with a fee-only advisor makes a lot of sense, especially with the complexity of juggling both contribution limits and income thresholds. Quick question - when you mention the compound growth difference being significant, do you have a rough sense of how much more you're able to save annually by maxing both accounts versus just doing one? I'm trying to get a feel for whether this strategy is worth the extra complexity for someone in their early 30s.
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Carmen Sanchez
Great question about the annual savings difference! In my early 30s, I was able to save about $30K annually by maxing both accounts versus maybe $12-15K with just a SEP-IRA or traditional IRA. That extra $15-18K per year compounding over 30+ years makes a massive difference. For example, if you're saving an extra $16K annually from age 32 to 62 (30 years) at a 7% average return, that's roughly an additional $1.5 million at retirement compared to the single-account approach. Even accounting for inflation, that's life-changing money. The complexity really isn't that bad once you get into a rhythm. I use a simple spreadsheet to track my quarterly estimated taxes and contribution limits, and most of the major brokerages (Fidelity, Schwab, Vanguard) make the actual account management pretty straightforward. The key is starting early like you are - the compound growth on those higher contribution limits is where the real magic happens. Even if you can't max both accounts right away, getting the Solo 401k established and contributing what you can to both gives you that foundation to scale up as your income grows. One tip: I always prioritize getting the full Solo 401k employer match equivalent first (the 25% of net self-employment income), then max the Roth IRA, then go back to finish maxing the Solo 401k employee contribution. This ensures you're capturing the highest tax-advantaged savings rates first.
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Carmella Fromis
•This breakdown is incredibly helpful, thank you! The $1.5 million difference really puts it in perspective - that's definitely worth the extra complexity. I love your prioritization strategy too, that makes total sense from a tax efficiency standpoint. I'm curious about one thing - you mentioned using a spreadsheet to track quarterly estimated taxes. Do you factor in how your retirement contributions will reduce your tax liability when calculating those quarterly payments? I've been overestimating my taxes because I wasn't accounting for the Solo 401k deductions, and I'm wondering if there's a systematic way to get this right throughout the year rather than just getting a big refund. Also, for someone just starting out with maybe $60-70k in freelance income, would you still recommend trying to max both accounts, or is there a minimum income threshold where this strategy really starts to make sense?
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