Is it possible for a limited partner to set up a solo retirement account separate from the partnership's 401K plan?
I'm currently a limited partner in a mid-sized marketing firm (about 30 employees total), and we have a company 401K plan that's decent but not great. The match is only 3% and the investment options are pretty limited. I've been with the partnership for about 6 years now, but I'm not involved in day-to-day operations - I basically just collect my share of profits quarterly. Since I'm not actively involved in running the business, I was wondering if I could set up my own solo retirement account (maybe a SEP IRA or Solo 401K) to save more for retirement outside of our company plan? I've heard mixed things about whether this is allowed. Something about "controlled group" rules and some limits on having multiple plans. Can I contribute to both our company 401K and my own separate retirement account? I'm worried about hitting contribution limits or breaking some tax rule I don't know about. The partnership distributes my income on a K-1 if that matters for this situation. Anyone have experience with this kind of setup? Thanks in advance for any help!
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Malik Johnson
This is a great question that touches on some nuanced retirement planning territory. For limited partners, your ability to establish a separate retirement account depends on whether you have any other self-employment income outside of your partnership. Unfortunately, limited partnership income reported on your K-1 is generally considered passive income and not self-employment income, which means it typically doesn't qualify as a basis for establishing a solo 401(k) or SEP IRA. These retirement plans require active self-employment income to establish. However, if you have any other business or freelance activities that generate self-employment income (reported on Schedule C), you could establish a solo retirement account based on THAT income. The income from your limited partnership wouldn't count toward contribution limits for that solo account, but your participation in the company's 401(k) would still affect your overall retirement plan contribution limits.
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Isabella Santos
•So if I understand correctly, just being a limited partner doesn't give me enough grounds to open my own retirement account? What if I start doing some consulting work on the side? Would I need to make a certain amount from consulting to qualify for a solo 401k? And would there be any issues with my existing company 401k if I do that?
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Malik Johnson
•For consulting work or any self-employment activity, there's no specific minimum amount required to establish a solo 401(k), though it should be legitimate business activity with profit motive. Even modest self-employment income can qualify as a basis for setting up a solo 401(k). Regarding your company 401(k), you can participate in both plans, but there are some important limits to be aware of. The employee contribution limit ($22,500 in 2023, plus $7,500 catch-up if you're over 50) applies across ALL 401(k) plans you participate in. So if you contribute $15,000 to your company plan, you could only contribute $7,500 as an employee to your solo 401(k). However, you could still make employer contributions to your solo 401(k) based on your self-employment income.
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Ravi Sharma
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Freya Larsen
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Omar Hassan
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Ravi Sharma
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Omar Hassan
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Chloe Taylor
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ShadowHunter
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Diego Ramirez
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Diego Ramirez
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Anastasia Sokolov
One thing nobody has mentioned yet is that if you're a limited partner but ALSO provide services to the partnership (like consulting work FOR the partnership), some of your income might be considered self-employment income rather than just passive income. Check your partnership agreement carefully. Some partnerships specifically structure certain payments as guaranteed payments for services, which ARE subject to self-employment tax AND could potentially qualify as a basis for a separate retirement account. Also, if your only goal is to save more for retirement beyond your company 401k, don't forget you can always contribute to a traditional or Roth IRA regardless of your partnership status. The contribution limits are much lower ($6,500 in 2023), but it's a simple option that avoids all the complexity.
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QuantumLeap
•Thank you - this is really helpful! I actually do provide about 10 hours/month of consulting services to our partnership that's structured as a guaranteed payment. I didn't realize that might qualify differently. Do you know roughly how much income from these services I would need to generate to open a worthwhile solo retirement account? Also, I am already maxing out a Roth IRA each year, so I'm definitely looking for additional savings vehicles beyond that.
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Anastasia Sokolov
•There's no specific minimum amount required to make a solo retirement account "worthwhile," though you'll want to consider any account maintenance fees against your contributions. Even with modest guaranteed payments from your partnership, you could make meaningful contributions. For guaranteed payments structured as self-employment income, you could potentially contribute up to 20-25% of that income to a SEP IRA or as employer contributions to a solo 401(k), after deducting self-employment taxes. Since you're already maxing your Roth IRA, this gives you another tax-advantaged option. Just make sure the partnership is properly classifying those guaranteed payments on your K-1, as this affects both your self-employment tax obligations and retirement plan eligibility.
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Sean O'Connor
I'm in a similar situation and went down this rabbit hole last year. Make sure to check if your partnership is part of a "controlled group" with any other business entities you own or operate. If so, there are additional rules that might require your plans to be combined for testing and contribution limit purposes. The IRS has incredibly complex rules around this stuff, and the penalties for getting it wrong can be steep. If you have significant assets involved, it might be worth paying for a consultation with an employee benefits attorney who specializes in retirement plans. General tax preparers often don't have deep expertise in these niche retirement plan rules.
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Zara Ahmed
•What exactly is a "controlled group"? Never heard this term before but sounds important. Is this something that would appear on my partnership paperwork somewhere?
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Laura Lopez
•A "controlled group" refers to businesses that are related through common ownership or control, even if they're separate legal entities. The IRS treats them as one employer for retirement plan purposes. For example, if you own 80% or more of multiple businesses, or if there's a chain of ownership connecting different entities, they might be considered a controlled group. This matters because if your partnership is part of a controlled group, you might not be able to have separate retirement plans - they could be required to operate as one combined plan with shared contribution limits and non-discrimination testing. You wouldn't necessarily see this labeled on your partnership paperwork, but it would depend on the ownership structure of your partnership and any other business interests you or the other partners have. @def6371cc16b is absolutely right about consulting with a specialist if you have significant money involved. The controlled group rules are some of the most complex in retirement plan law.
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Anastasia Smirnova
As someone who went through a similar situation as a limited partner, I can confirm that the partnership income alone typically won't qualify you for a solo retirement account. However, I noticed you mentioned collecting quarterly profit distributions - make sure to distinguish between your distributive share of partnership profits (passive income) and any guaranteed payments for services you might receive. If you do any work FOR the partnership that generates guaranteed payments (shown separately on your K-1), that income could potentially qualify as self-employment income for retirement plan purposes. Even something like attending partner meetings or providing strategic input might be structured as guaranteed payments rather than just profit sharing. One other option to consider: if your current 401k plan allows it, you might be able to make after-tax contributions beyond the normal limits and then do in-service distributions or conversions to a Roth. This could help you save more within your existing plan structure without needing to set up separate accounts. Worth checking with your plan administrator about these "mega backdoor Roth" strategies.
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