Single-member S Corp - Can I have both SEP IRA and Solo 401k? Tax implications?
I've got a bit of a retirement planning dilemma with my business setup. I operate as an LLC that's taxed as an S Corp, and I'm the only employee (also the owner). I'm trying to figure out if it's possible for me to have both a Solo 401(k) AND a SEP IRA simultaneously? Currently, I'm paying myself around $55,000 in W2 wages from the business. With all the retirement account options out there, I'm having trouble determining which would be the best choice for my situation. From what I understand, for the SEP IRA option, my S Corp could contribute 25% of my salary (which would be about $13,750). For the Solo 401k, it seems the S Corp could also contribute 25% of my salary, but the major difference is that I could also make employee contributions to the Solo 401k. This would potentially allow for up to $36,750 in total contributions to the Solo 401k. Another question - regardless of whether I go with the SEP IRA or Solo 401k, can I still contribute to a traditional or Roth IRA on top of that? I want to maximize my retirement savings while staying within all the IRS rules. Any advice would be greatly appreciated!
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Sara Hellquiem
You've got a good understanding of the options, but there are some important distinctions to make here. As a single-member S Corp, you can't have both a SEP IRA and Solo 401(k) for the same income stream - you'll need to choose one retirement plan structure for your business. Based on your $55,000 salary, a Solo 401(k) would likely be more advantageous. Here's why: With a Solo 401(k), you can make employee contributions up to $23,000 for 2025 (plus catch-up contributions if you're over 50), AND your S Corp can make employer contributions of up to 25% of your W-2 compensation. The combined total cannot exceed $69,000 for 2025. With a SEP IRA, only employer contributions are allowed (up to 25% of compensation), which would limit you to around $13,750 based on your salary. And yes, you can absolutely contribute to either a traditional or Roth IRA regardless of which employer plan you choose, though your income level may affect whether those contributions are deductible (for traditional) or allowed (for Roth).
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Oscar O'Neil
•Thanks for clarifying! So to be crystal clear, I definitely can't have both plans simultaneously for my S Corp income? I was hoping to somehow combine them for maximum savings. For the Solo 401(k), if I'm understanding correctly, I could contribute $23,000 as employee contributions, plus my business could add another roughly $13,750 (25% of $55,000) as the employer contribution?
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Sara Hellquiem
•That's correct - you cannot have both plans simultaneously for the same income stream. The IRS doesn't allow that kind of double-dipping on the same earnings. Yes, with a Solo 401(k), you could contribute $23,000 as an employee contribution, plus your S Corp could add approximately $13,750 (25% of your $55,000 salary) as the employer contribution, for a total of about $36,750. That's significantly higher than what you could do with a SEP IRA alone, which is why Solo 401(k) plans are generally more advantageous for small business owners who can make both employer and employee contributions.
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Oscar O'Neil
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Carmella Fromis
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Carmella Fromis
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Theodore Nelson
One thing nobody has mentioned yet - make sure you consider the administrative burden difference between SEP IRA and Solo 401k. SEP IRAs are generally easier to set up and maintain. Solo 401ks require annual filing of Form 5500-EZ once your plan assets exceed $250,000. Also, if you're thinking about doing backdoor Roth conversions at any point, the SEP IRA will cause pro-rata rule complications, while the Solo 401k won't. This is a huge advantage for the Solo 401k that most people overlook.
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Oscar O'Neil
•I hadn't even thought about the Form 5500-EZ requirement! Is that difficult to complete? Also, what exactly is the pro-rata rule and why would it cause problems with a SEP IRA?
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Theodore Nelson
•The 5500-EZ isn't terribly complicated, but it is an additional filing requirement. Most tax software can handle it, or your accountant can prepare it. It's essentially just reporting the plan's financial details to the IRS annually. The pro-rata rule comes into play with backdoor Roth conversions. If you have traditional IRA assets (including SEP IRAs), you can't just convert after-tax contributions to a Roth IRA tax-free. The IRS looks at ALL your IRA assets (traditional, SEP, SIMPLE) collectively and applies a proportional tax based on pre-tax vs. after-tax money. But 401k assets don't count in this calculation. So having a Solo 401k instead of a SEP IRA keeps your backdoor Roth conversion options clean. This becomes incredibly important for higher income earners who can't contribute directly to Roth IRAs.
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AaliyahAli
Has anyone here actually done the math on the administrative costs vs tax savings? I've had both plans at different points. The Solo 401k let me save more but cost me about $850/year in admin fees plus preparation of that 5500-EZ form. The SEP was basically free to maintain through Vanguard.
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Ellie Simpson
•You can find Solo 401k providers with much lower fees! I use E*TRADE and they charge nothing for the plan itself. No setup fees, no annual maintenance fees. There are other free options too like Fidelity and Schwab. The 5500-EZ is pretty simple - my accountant charges about $150 to prepare it.
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PrinceJoe
Just wanted to add my experience as someone who went through this exact decision last year with my single-member S Corp. I was paying myself $60k in W-2 wages and agonizing over SEP IRA vs Solo 401k. I ultimately chose the Solo 401k and it was absolutely the right call. The ability to make both employee and employer contributions meant I could put away $38,000 total vs only $15,000 with the SEP IRA. That's a huge difference in tax savings! One tip that helped me: I started with a smaller Solo 401k contribution in my first year to test the waters, then ramped it up once I got comfortable with the process. The paperwork really isn't as scary as it seems, especially if you use one of the free providers like Fidelity or Schwab. Also, don't forget that as an S Corp owner, you need to make sure your salary is "reasonable" for your industry. The IRS scrutinizes S Corps that try to minimize payroll taxes by paying tiny salaries. Just something to keep in mind as you plan your retirement contributions.
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Jamal Thompson
•This is really helpful to hear from someone who actually made the switch! I'm in almost the exact same situation with similar salary numbers. Quick question - when you say you "tested the waters" with smaller contributions first, do you mean you didn't max out the employee contribution right away? I'm wondering if there's any strategic reason to phase it in gradually versus just going all-in from year one if you have the cash flow to support it. Also, your point about reasonable salary is spot on. I've been conservative with my S Corp salary specifically because I was worried about IRS scrutiny, but now I'm realizing that might actually be limiting my retirement contribution potential too.
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Noland Curtis
Great question about the salary optimization! I've been wrestling with this same issue in my single-member S Corp. There's definitely a balancing act between keeping payroll taxes reasonable and maximizing retirement contribution potential. From my research, the "reasonable salary" standard is based on what you'd pay someone else to do your job in your geographic area and industry. The IRS has been more aggressive lately in auditing S Corps with suspiciously low salaries, but they also understand that small business owners need to balance cash flow. One strategy I've seen recommended is to gradually increase your salary over time as your business grows and stabilizes. This way you're not shocking your cash flow in year one, but you're also positioning yourself for higher retirement contributions down the road. For the Solo 401k vs SEP IRA decision, I'm leaning heavily toward the Solo 401k based on all the feedback here. The additional contribution potential seems to far outweigh the minor administrative complexity. Plus, keeping that backdoor Roth option open could be huge for future tax planning. Has anyone here worked with their CPA to model out the optimal salary level for maximizing retirement contributions while staying within IRS guidelines?
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Zara Shah
•I actually went through this exact salary optimization exercise with my CPA last year! We used salary data from the Bureau of Labor Statistics and local job postings to establish a defensible range for my role. The sweet spot we found was around 60-65% of what I'd pay an employee to do my job, which gave me room for reasonable retirement contributions while still being conservative enough to avoid IRS scrutiny. One thing my CPA emphasized is documenting your reasoning - we kept records of the salary research and business justification in case of an audit. We also set up a plan to review and adjust annually as the business grows. The Solo 401k definitely seems like the way to go based on everyone's experiences here. The math is just too compelling - even with the minor administrative overhead, you're potentially talking about thousands more in tax-deferred savings annually. I'm curious if anyone has experience with the loan feature that some Solo 401k plans offer? That could be another advantage over SEP IRAs for business owners who might need access to funds.
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Sophia Gabriel
Really appreciate everyone's insights on this thread! I'm in a similar situation with a single-member S Corp and have been going back and forth on this decision for months. After reading through all the responses, the Solo 401(k) seems like the clear winner for most situations like ours. The ability to make both employee and employer contributions is just too valuable to pass up - potentially doubling the retirement savings compared to a SEP IRA. One question I haven't seen addressed: for those who made the switch from SEP IRA to Solo 401(k), did you roll over your existing SEP IRA balance into the new Solo 401(k), or did you keep them separate? I'm wondering about the logistics and any potential tax implications of combining them. Also, has anyone dealt with having employees later on? I know Solo 401(k) plans become more complicated once you have employees, so I'm curious about the transition process if the business grows.
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Katherine Ziminski
•Great question about rollovers! I actually went through this transition two years ago. You can absolutely roll your SEP IRA balance into a Solo 401(k), and it's usually the smart move to consolidate everything. The rollover is typically tax-free since you're moving pre-tax money to another pre-tax account. Most Solo 401(k) providers make the rollover process pretty straightforward - they'll handle the paperwork and coordinate directly with your SEP IRA custodian. Just make sure to do a direct trustee-to-trustee transfer to avoid any potential tax complications. Regarding employees, you're right that it gets more complex. Once you have eligible employees, you'd need to either convert to a traditional 401(k) that covers everyone, or terminate the Solo 401(k) and potentially move to a SEP IRA that includes all employees. The good news is that most business owners in this situation have advance warning since hiring is usually a planned decision. One advantage of consolidating into the Solo 401(k) early is that it keeps your backdoor Roth conversion options clean, as someone mentioned earlier. Having fewer accounts also simplifies your overall financial picture.
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Zoe Dimitriou
This has been an incredibly helpful thread! I'm also running a single-member S Corp and have been putting off this decision for way too long. Based on everything discussed here, it sounds like the Solo 401(k) is definitely the way to go for maximizing retirement savings. One thing I'm curious about that I don't think was fully covered - timing of contributions. With my S Corp, I typically don't know my final profit numbers until close to year-end when I'm doing tax planning with my accountant. How flexible are the contribution deadlines for Solo 401(k)s compared to SEP IRAs? I know employee contributions generally need to be made by December 31st, but what about the employer contributions? Can those be made up until the tax filing deadline (including extensions) like with SEP IRAs? This timing flexibility has been one of the main advantages I've appreciated with retirement planning - being able to wait until I have a clear picture of the year's finances before committing to contribution amounts. Also want to echo what others have said about the reasonable salary issue. It's definitely a balancing act, but sounds like working with a CPA to document your reasoning is key for staying on the right side of the IRS.
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Dmitri Volkov
•Great question about timing! You're right that employee contributions for Solo 401(k)s need to be made by December 31st of the tax year, which can be challenging when you're not sure about cash flow until late in the year. However, the employer contributions have the same flexibility as SEP IRAs - you can make them up until your tax filing deadline, including extensions (so potentially as late as October 15th if you file extensions). This actually gives you a nice hybrid approach: you can make conservative employee contributions throughout the year based on what you know you can afford, then true-up with employer contributions once you have your final numbers. Some people even wait until January to make any employee contributions for the previous year if their 401(k) provider allows it, though you'd need to check the specific rules with your plan administrator. The key is making sure your payroll system is set up correctly if you want to make employee contributions during the year, since those need to come through payroll deductions. But the employer contribution flexibility definitely helps with year-end tax planning. This timing advantage combined with the higher contribution limits really makes the Solo 401(k) compelling for S Corp owners who need that planning flexibility.
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LordCommander
This thread has been incredibly valuable! I'm in a very similar situation with my single-member S Corp and have been paralyzed by this decision for months. After reading through everyone's experiences, I'm convinced the Solo 401(k) is the right choice for maximizing retirement savings. One additional consideration I haven't seen mentioned - for those of us who might want to take early retirement or have irregular income years, the Solo 401(k) offers more flexibility for accessing funds. Unlike SEP IRAs, many Solo 401(k) plans allow loans (up to 50% of the balance or $50,000, whichever is less) and some allow hardship withdrawals. This could be a significant advantage for business owners who might need access to funds during lean years or business transitions. Also, I wanted to confirm something about the contribution calculations - when we say 25% of salary for the employer contribution, that's 25% of the net self-employment income for the employer portion, not the gross salary, correct? I want to make sure I'm calculating my potential contributions accurately before making the switch. Thanks again everyone for sharing your real-world experiences - it's so much more helpful than trying to parse through IRS publications alone!
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Javier Gomez
•You raise excellent points about the loan and hardship withdrawal features! That flexibility can be a game-changer for business owners who face unpredictable cash flow situations. Regarding your calculation question - for S Corp owners, it's actually 25% of your W-2 wages (the salary you pay yourself), not net self-employment income. That's different from sole proprietors or partnerships who use net self-employment income for their calculations. Since you're an S Corp employee receiving W-2 wages, the employer contribution is based on that W-2 compensation amount. So if you're paying yourself $55,000 in W-2 wages like the original poster, your maximum employer contribution would be 25% of that $55,000, which is $13,750. The employee contribution limit is separate and based on the annual limit ($23,000 for 2025, plus catch-up if applicable). It's one of those nuances that makes S Corp retirement planning tricky - the calculation method depends on your business structure. Definitely worth double-checking with your accountant to make sure you're using the right numbers!
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Aaron Boston
Thanks everyone for the detailed discussion! As someone who just went through this exact decision process with my single-member S Corp, I wanted to add one more perspective that might help others in similar situations. I was initially hesitant about the Solo 401(k) because of the perceived complexity, but after making the switch from a SEP IRA last year, I can confirm it's really not that complicated in practice. The key is choosing the right provider - I went with Fidelity and their setup process was surprisingly straightforward, with good online resources and phone support when I had questions. One thing that really sealed the deal for me was running the numbers on tax savings. With my $50k salary, the Solo 401(k) allowed me to defer about $15k more in taxes annually compared to the SEP IRA. Even if I paid a few hundred dollars in extra admin costs, the tax savings more than made up for it. For anyone still on the fence, I'd recommend calling a few of the major providers (Fidelity, Schwab, E*TRADE) and asking them to walk you through the setup process and fee structure. They're usually very helpful in explaining how it would work for your specific situation. The peace of mind from maximizing my retirement savings while keeping all my options open for future tax planning has been worth the minor extra effort.
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Mei-Ling Chen
•This is exactly the kind of real-world experience I was hoping to hear! I've been stuck in analysis paralysis for months, but hearing that the setup process with Fidelity was straightforward gives me confidence to move forward. The tax savings you mentioned ($15k more annually) really puts the decision in perspective - even if there are some minor admin costs, that's a huge difference in long-term retirement savings. I'm curious about one thing - when you switched from SEP IRA to Solo 401(k), did you encounter any unexpected issues or complications during the transition? I'm particularly wondering about the rollover process and whether there were any timing considerations I should be aware of. Also, did you work with your accountant throughout the process, or were you able to handle most of it directly with Fidelity? I want to make sure I'm not missing any important steps or potential pitfalls as I plan my own transition. Thanks for sharing your experience - it's really helpful to hear from someone who's actually been through this process recently!
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