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Omar Mahmoud

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Btw, this question is also on Form 1120-S (S-Corp return) and the same rule applies - check each number separately against the $250k threshold.

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Chloe Harris

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Do you know if this changed recently? I swear in 2023 I had to add them together for my S-Corp. My accountant told me one thing and then changed his answer.

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Thank you everyone for the detailed explanations! This clears up so much confusion. I was definitely overthinking it by trying to add the numbers together. So just to confirm my understanding: since my gross receipts ($176,892) AND my total assets ($143,246) are BOTH individually under $250,000, I should answer "Yes" to Line 13 on Schedule K. This means I'll need to complete the balance sheet portion of the return. I really appreciate all the different resources mentioned here - it's reassuring to know there are options like taxr.ai and Claimyr when the IRS instructions aren't crystal clear. The tax code can be so confusing even for what seems like simple questions! Going to mark this resolved and get back to finishing my 1120. Thanks again for saving me from a potential filing error!

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Sayid Hassan

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Great to see you got it figured out! As someone who just went through my first corporate tax filing, I can definitely relate to the confusion. The IRS forms often have this weird backwards logic where smaller businesses end up with more paperwork requirements. One thing I learned is to always keep good records of how you interpreted these threshold questions in case you ever get audited - even though this particular question doesn't affect your tax liability, it's good to have documentation of your reasoning process. Good luck with the rest of your 1120 filing!

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I dealt with almost the exact same situation last year and wanted to share what I learned. The joint account aspect actually simplifies things quite a bit - since you're already a named account holder, the IRS typically views transfers between accounts you're on as internal movements rather than gifts. The key thing that helped me was treating this properly as debt repayment from the start. I created a simple spreadsheet listing all the expenses I'd covered for my parents (medical bills, home maintenance, utilities, etc.) with dates and amounts. Then I had my parents sign a one-page acknowledgment that they owed me this money and were repaying it. One thing I wish someone had told me earlier - keep records of how you originally paid these expenses. Bank statements showing transfers from your personal account to pay their bills, credit card statements if you used your cards, etc. This creates a clear paper trail showing you genuinely fronted the money on their behalf. Since you mentioned $130k over a couple years, that's substantial but completely reasonable for ongoing family support. Just document everything well and you should be fine. The IRS understands these family arrangements happen all the time - they just want to see that it's legitimate debt repayment rather than gift tax avoidance.

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This is really reassuring to hear from someone who went through the same thing! I love the idea of creating a spreadsheet with all the expenses - that sounds like a clean way to organize everything. Quick question about the documentation: when you say "bank statements showing transfers from your personal account to pay their bills" - did you need statements going back the full couple of years, or was a representative sample sufficient? I'm worried about having to dig up every single transaction from the past two years, especially since some of the smaller utility payments might be harder to track down. Also, did you end up doing the transfer all at once or in chunks? I'm trying to figure out if there's any advantage to breaking up the $130k repayment versus just getting it all settled in one go.

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Paolo Longo

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@Connor Gallagher Good questions! For the bank statements, I didn t'need every single transaction - I focused on the larger expenses medical (bills, major home repairs and) provided a representative sample of the smaller recurring payments like utilities. The IRS understands that perfect documentation isn t'always possible, especially for ongoing family support over multiple years. I ended up doing the transfer in three chunks over about 4 months - partly because that felt more natural given our family s'cash flow, and partly because I was nervous about one huge transfer potentially triggering banking alerts. Nothing wrong with doing it all at once if that works better for your situation, but spreading it out felt less likely to raise eyebrows. The most important thing was having that signed acknowledgment document and being able to show the pattern of expenses I d'covered. Even if you can t'document every utility payment perfectly, having the major expenses clearly tracked plus a reasonable explanation for the rest should be totally fine.

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Mei Lin

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I've been following this thread and wanted to add my perspective as someone who works in banking compliance. The joint account situation actually works in your favor here - transfers between accounts where you're already a named holder rarely trigger gift tax scrutiny. However, I'd strongly recommend getting ahead of any potential banking flags by giving your bank a heads up about the transfer, especially since $130k will definitely trigger Currency Transaction Reports. Most banks appreciate when customers explain large transfers in advance rather than having to investigate them after the fact. One thing I haven't seen mentioned is that you might want to consider the timing of this transfer relative to your tax year. Since this is debt repayment rather than income, the timing shouldn't affect your taxes, but having it settled before year-end can make your record-keeping cleaner. The documentation everyone's suggesting is spot-on - create that paper trail showing the original expenses you covered, get your parents to sign an acknowledgment, and keep everything organized. Banks see these family financial arrangements constantly, so as long as you can explain the legitimate purpose of the transfer, you shouldn't have any issues.

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This is really helpful advice about giving the bank a heads up! I hadn't thought about proactively explaining the transfer to avoid triggering investigations. When you mention Currency Transaction Reports for $130k - is that something I need to be concerned about, or is it just routine banking compliance that happens automatically? Also, regarding the timing advice - since this has been building up over a couple years, would there be any advantage to doing the transfer before the end of this tax year versus early next year? I'm not expecting any major income changes, but want to make sure I'm not missing any strategic considerations. Thanks for the banking compliance perspective - it's reassuring to hear that these family arrangements are common from your professional viewpoint!

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This has been such an educational thread! I've been making donations through various crowdfunding platforms for years without really understanding the tax implications. The clarity everyone has provided about 501(c)(3) requirements versus personal gifts is incredibly valuable. I wanted to add something that might help others - I recently discovered that some legitimate charities actually run their own GoFundMe campaigns through the verified Charity program, but they also have direct donation options on their websites. In those cases, I've found it's often better to donate directly through the charity's website because: 1) You get immediate tax documentation 2) The charity doesn't pay GoFundMe's platform fees (so more of your money goes to the cause) 3) You can often set up recurring donations more easily 4) Some organizations offer additional perks for direct donors That said, the GoFundMe Charity option is still completely legitimate for tax purposes if that's more convenient for you. One thing I'm still learning about is corporate matching programs. My employer matches charitable donations, but only to verified 501(c)(3) organizations. So now when I want to maximize my impact, I look for established charities that work in the areas I care about rather than donating to individual campaigns. That way I can potentially double my contribution through employer matching while still getting the tax deduction. Thanks to everyone who shared their experiences and tools - this community knowledge is invaluable!

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Ravi Gupta

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@Liam Fitzgerald, this is such great additional insight! I had no idea about the platform fees that charities pay to GoFundMe - that's a really important point about donating directly through their websites when possible. Every dollar counts when you're trying to support a cause. Your mention of corporate matching programs is brilliant too. I work for a company that offers donation matching but I've never actually looked into using it. Now I'm realizing I could potentially double the impact of my charitable giving just by being more strategic about where and how I donate. Do you know if most employers have restrictions on which organizations they'll match? I should probably check with HR about our specific program. The recurring donation option through charity websites is something I hadn't considered either. That could be a much more sustainable way to support causes I care about rather than just making one-time donations whenever I see campaigns on social media. This whole thread has completely transformed how I think about charitable giving. Between the tax implications, verification requirements, platform fees, employer matching, and strategic planning - there's so much more to consider than I ever realized. Thanks for adding these practical tips to an already incredibly informative discussion!

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This thread has been absolutely fantastic! As someone who's been casually donating to various GoFundMe campaigns throughout the year, I had completely misunderstood the tax implications. The distinction between personal gifts and charitable donations is so much clearer now thanks to everyone's explanations. I'm particularly grateful for the practical tools and strategies that have been shared here. The IRS Tax Exempt Organization Search tool, the three-step verification process from @Katherine Shultz, and @Lucy Taylor's spreadsheet tracking idea are all going into my toolkit immediately. I've already bookmarked the IRS search page and started setting up my own donation tracking spreadsheet. @Liam Fitzgerald's point about platform fees and employer matching programs has me rethinking my entire approach to giving. I need to check with my HR department about our matching program - I could have been doubling my charitable impact all this time! It's also eye-opening to learn that donating directly through charity websites often means more money actually reaches the cause. One thing I'm realizing is that I've been very reactive in my giving - just responding to campaigns that pop up on social media without much strategy. Moving forward, I want to be more intentional: research established 501(c)(3) organizations in areas I care about, set up some recurring donations to maximize employer matching, and keep a separate budget for personal gifts to individuals who need help (knowing those won't be deductible). Thanks to everyone who shared their experiences, especially those who were honest about their mistakes. It's so helpful to learn from others' trial and error rather than having to figure all this out the hard way!

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CyberSamurai

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@Molly Chambers, I couldn't agree more! This thread has been like a crash course in charitable giving that I never knew I needed. I've been making the same mistakes - just impulse donating whenever something tugged at my heartstrings on social media without any real strategy or understanding of the tax implications. Your plan to be more intentional moving forward sounds perfect. I'm inspired to do the same thing - research established charities in areas I care about and set up that recurring donation structure to take advantage of employer matching. It's amazing how much more impact we could have been making all along just by being more strategic! I also love how this community came together to share both successes and mistakes. Learning from @Katherine Shultz s'experience with the unregistered animal rescue, @Rajiv Kumar s parents'situation with' the fake wildlife foundation, and even seeing people change their minds after trying tools like Claimyr - it really shows the value of honest, open discussion about these topics. I m definitely'saving this entire thread as reference material. Between all the verification tools, organizational strategies, and real-world examples, this has to be one of the most comprehensive resources on charitable giving tax implications that I ve ever'come across. Thanks to everyone who contributed their knowledge and experiences!

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Yuki Sato

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I went through this exact same nightmare last year! What finally worked for me was requesting an "escrow analysis" statement directly from my mortgage servicer - this is different from your regular mortgage statements and shows a detailed breakdown of all payments made from your escrow account throughout the year. Most servicers are required to provide this annually, but you can request it specifically. It will show every property tax payment made, even if your 1098 shows zero. I had to escalate past the first-level customer service (they didn't even know what I was talking about), but once I got to someone in the escrow department, they sent it right over. Also, keep your closing documents handy - they often show prorated property tax amounts that you paid at closing, which are also deductible but easy to overlook. Between the escrow analysis and closing docs, I found over $4,200 in deductible property taxes that weren't on my 1098.

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Luca Russo

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This is such a common and frustrating issue! I went through the same thing when we refinanced our home mid-year. Here's what I learned from my CPA: the 1098 only reports what the lender considers "qualified" property tax payments, and sometimes there are timing issues or coding errors on their end. Your best bet is to get a complete payment history from your county tax collector's office (not just the assessor). They can provide an official statement showing all property tax payments made on your properties during the tax year, regardless of who made them. Most counties now have online portals where you can download these reports instantly using your property address or parcel number. Don't forget about the property taxes you may have prepaid at closing for your new home, or any prorated amounts you were credited for when you sold your old home. These are often overlooked but are legitimate deductions. The key is having documentation that shows the taxes were actually paid during the tax year - the IRS doesn't care that your 1098 is wrong, they just need proof the payments were made.

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This is really helpful! I'm dealing with this exact situation right now. Quick question - when you mention "prorated amounts you were credited for when you sold your old home," do you mean the property taxes that were already paid for the portion of the year after the sale date? I'm looking at my closing statement and there's a credit for property taxes, but I'm not sure if that means I can deduct those or if the buyer gets to deduct them since they ultimately paid for that portion of the year.

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Honorah King

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The key thing to remember is that the IRS doesn't need real-time reporting to verify your solo 401k contributions - they have other ways to check during audits or reviews. Your financial institution maintains detailed records of all transactions, and these can be requested by the IRS at any time. What's really important is maintaining a clear paper trail. This means keeping bank statements showing transfers from your business account to your solo 401k, your contribution calculation worksheets (especially for the employer portion based on net self-employment earnings), and your account statements showing when deposits were received. Also, the IRS has data matching capabilities that can flag inconsistencies. If you're claiming large retirement contributions but your reported business income doesn't support those amounts, that's likely to trigger additional scrutiny. Make sure your claimed contributions align with your actual net earnings from self-employment - the employer contribution portion is limited to 25% of your net self-employment earnings (after deducting half of your self-employment tax). I'd recommend keeping both digital and physical copies of all documentation, and consider working with a tax professional if your situation is complex. The peace of mind is worth it when dealing with retirement account compliance.

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This is really comprehensive advice! I'm just starting out with my solo 401k this year and feeling overwhelmed by all the documentation requirements. One question - when you mention keeping "contribution calculation worksheets," is there a specific IRS form or template I should be using, or do I just need to document my math showing how I calculated the 25% employer contribution limit? I want to make sure I'm doing this right from the beginning rather than scrambling later if I get audited.

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Mila Walker

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There isn't a specific IRS form for the calculation worksheet, but you should definitely document your math clearly. I create a simple spreadsheet that shows: 1) My total net self-employment income, 2) Half of my self-employment tax deduction, 3) My adjusted net earnings, and 4) The 25% calculation for my maximum employer contribution. For example, if your Schedule C shows $100k profit, you'd subtract half your SE tax (let's say $7k), giving you $93k in compensation. Your max employer contribution would be 25% of that, or $23,250. Document each step and keep it with your tax records. I also include the date I made each contribution and cross-reference it with my bank statements. This creates a clear audit trail that shows you calculated everything correctly and made contributions within the proper limits. The key is being able to recreate your logic if questioned years later.

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NebulaNinja

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Based on my experience as a solo 401k participant, the IRS verification process is actually quite straightforward once you understand what they're looking for. While they don't receive automatic reporting for accounts under $250k, they have several verification methods during audits. The most important thing is maintaining proper documentation. I keep a dedicated folder (both physical and digital) with: 1) Monthly account statements from my solo 401k provider, 2) Bank statements showing transfers from my business checking to the 401k, 3) My annual contribution calculation worksheet showing how I determined my limits, and 4) Copies of any contribution confirmations or receipts. For the calculation piece, remember that your employer contribution is limited to 25% of your net self-employment earnings (after deducting half of your SE tax). So if you had $150k in net earnings and paid $10k in SE tax, your compensation would be $145k ($150k - $5k), and your max employer contribution would be $36,250. One thing that surprised me - the IRS can also cross-reference your claimed contributions with your overall financial profile. If you're claiming maximum contributions but your lifestyle or other financial indicators don't align, that could trigger additional questions. The key is being consistent and honest in your reporting. Your $28,500 contribution sounds reasonable for someone with sufficient self-employment income. Just make sure you have the documentation to back it up!

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Noah Irving

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This is really helpful! I'm new to solo 401k management and still figuring out the documentation requirements. Quick question about the calculation - when you mention deducting "half of your SE tax," are you referring to the deduction I take on Form 1040 line 15? I want to make sure I'm using the right numbers when calculating my contribution limits. Also, do you recommend making contributions throughout the year or is it okay to do one lump sum at the end? I'm worried about timing issues affecting my documentation.

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