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Javier Gomez

S-Corp Retirement Account Options for Freelancer: SEP IRA vs Solo 401k Comparison

Hey all, I'm a freelance web developer running my business as an S-Corp and trying to figure out the best retirement account setup. My business is doing pretty well - I'm paying myself about $65k as reasonable salary and taking around $70k in distributions this year. I'm debating between setting up a SEP IRA or Solo 401k. My main questions are: 1) What's the deadline to set up either option for this tax year? Do I need to have it established by Dec 31st, or do I have until my tax filing deadline in March 2024? 2) For the SEP IRA option, would my contribution limit be calculated as 25% of just my $65k salary, or can I use the full $135k (salary + distributions)? 3) The Solo 401k seems more complicated to set up and administer. Are there significant advantages that would make it worth the extra hassle? 4) If I go with the SEP IRA this year, can I switch to a Solo 401k next year if my income increases and I want to contribute more? Thanks for any guidance! I want to maximize my retirement savings while keeping things as simple as possible.

Emma Wilson

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The deadlines and contribution limits for retirement accounts can definitely be confusing! Here's what you need to know: For deadlines: You need to establish a Solo 401k by December 31st of the tax year (so Dec 31, 2023 for this year's taxes), but you can fund it until your tax filing deadline including extensions. For a SEP IRA, you have until your tax filing deadline including extensions to both establish AND fund it. For contribution limits: With a SEP IRA, your contribution is limited to 25% of your W-2 wages only (the $65k salary), not distributions. So your maximum contribution would be around $16,250. The Solo 401k has some big advantages - you can contribute as both employer AND employee. As an employee, you can contribute up to $22,500 for 2023 (plus $7,500 catch-up if you're 50+), regardless of your income. Then as the employer, you can also contribute up to 25% of your W-2 compensation. And yes, you can absolutely set up a SEP IRA this year and switch to a Solo 401k next year if you want. There's no requirement to stick with the same plan type.

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Javier Gomez

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Thanks for the detailed response! Just to make sure I understand correctly - with the Solo 401k, I could potentially contribute the $22,500 employee contribution PLUS 25% of my $65k salary (about $16,250) for a total of $38,750? That's significantly more than the SEP IRA option. Since we're pretty close to the end of the year, would I be better off going with the SEP for simplicity's sake right now, then switching to Solo 401k next year when I have more time to set it up properly?

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Emma Wilson

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You've got it exactly right! With the Solo 401k, you could contribute up to $22,500 as your employee contribution plus about $16,250 as your employer contribution (25% of your $65k salary) for a potential total of $38,750. That's definitely a major advantage over the SEP IRA, which would limit you to just the $16,250. Given the December 31st deadline for establishing a Solo 401k, it might make sense to go with the SEP IRA for simplicity this year. You can set it up and fund it by your tax filing deadline, and then plan ahead for a Solo 401k next year. Just make sure you don't establish a Solo 401k next year before closing the SEP IRA, as having both simultaneously could complicate things with contribution limits.

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Chloe Taylor

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Something nobody mentioned yet - make sure you research the providers for whichever account you choose. I have my Solo 401k through Fidelity and it's been great - no setup fees or annual maintenance fees, and decent investment options. Some providers charge hefty admin fees, especially for Solo 401ks. Also, if you go with the Solo 401k route and your plan assets exceed $250k, you'll need to file Form 5500-EZ each year, which is an extra administrative task. Not a huge deal but something to be aware of.

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Diego Flores

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Do you know if Vanguard's Solo 401k has similar fee structure to Fidelity? I've heard Vanguard has good low-cost index funds but wasn't sure about their 401k admin fees for small businesses.

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Chloe Taylor

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Vanguard does have a similar fee structure with no setup or annual maintenance fees, and they definitely have excellent low-cost index funds. The main difference I found was that Fidelity allowed me to invest in a wider range of options including individual stocks within the Solo 401k, while Vanguard limited me to their funds. Both are solid choices though. The key is to avoid the providers that charge $200+ annual administration fees or have costly setup fees. Those can really eat into your returns over time, especially when you're just starting out with your retirement savings.

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One thing to consider with a Solo 401k vs SEP IRA - if you think you might hire employees in the future, the Solo 401k rules get much more complicated once you have employees. With a SEP IRA, you'd have to contribute the same percentage for all eligible employees as you do for yourself. I started with a SEP IRA when I was solo, then had to switch everything when I hired my first employee. Wish I'd known that earlier!

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Javier Gomez

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That's a really good point I hadn't considered. I don't have immediate plans to hire employees, but it's definitely possible in the next 2-3 years. So if I understand correctly, once I hire employees, I'd need to either: 1. Convert my Solo 401k to a regular 401k with all the additional compliance requirements 2. Or with a SEP IRA, I'd need to contribute the same percentage for employees as I take for myself Is there a clear better option between those two scenarios?

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