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Has anyone successfully claimed both the lifetime learning credit AND used 529 funds in the same year? My wife is in grad school and we're trying to figure out the most tax-efficient way to pay for it since the AOTC isn't available for graduate education.
Yes, but remember you need to have enough qualified expenses to "allocate" between them. Example: $15k in grad school tuition - use $13k from 529 and pay $2k out of pocket, then claim the lifetime learning credit on that $2k. You just can't claim the credit on the same dollars that came from the 529.
This is exactly the situation I was in last year! The key thing to remember is that you can't use the same dollar for multiple tax benefits, but you CAN strategically allocate your expenses. Since your 529 covered $7,800 in tuition, you can't claim the tuition deduction (Form 8917) on that amount. However, if you had ANY other qualified education expenses that you paid out-of-pocket - like required textbooks, lab fees, course materials, or even additional tuition beyond what the 529 covered - you can absolutely use those for the American Opportunity Tax Credit. The AOTC is usually much more valuable than the tuition deduction anyway (up to $2,500 credit vs. up to $4,000 deduction), so focus on maximizing that if you have any out-of-pocket expenses. Even if you only spent $500 on books, that could still get you a $500 credit through the AOTC. Make sure to keep all your receipts and document which expenses were paid by which source. The IRS is pretty clear about this in Publication 970 - you just need to show that you're not "double-dipping" on the same expenses.
This is super helpful! I'm in a similar boat as the original poster - 22 and using 529 funds for the first time. Quick question though: do required course materials have to be purchased directly from the school to qualify for AOTC, or can I buy textbooks from Amazon or other retailers and still claim them? I saved like $300 buying used books online instead of from the campus bookstore.
I went through almost the exact same situation last year! The "double-dipping" issue is super common, especially when dental insurance takes a while to process claims. Here's what I learned: First, don't stress too much about the card being locked - it's really just an administrative thing and won't hurt your credit or future FSA access. When mine got locked, I actually found manual reimbursement wasn't that bad. Most administrators have mobile apps now where you can just snap photos of receipts and submit claims instantly. For spending down your $270 quickly, here are some items that worked well for me: - Electric toothbrush + replacement heads (easily $100-150) - First aid kit restocking (bandages, antiseptic, pain relievers) - Compression socks if you're on your feet a lot - Blue light glasses if you work on computers - A year's supply of any vitamins your doctor has recommended One trick I discovered - if you have any recurring prescriptions, ask your pharmacy if they can fill a 90-day supply instead of 30-day. That can quickly eat up remaining funds and you'll need the medication anyway. The tax situation isn't as scary as it sounds either. You'll just report it as additional income, but since it was originally pre-tax money, you're basically just paying the taxes you would have paid anyway. Keep all your documentation though - the FSA administrator should provide you with the proper tax forms. You're handling this the right way by addressing it proactively rather than just hoping it goes away!
@Sofia Ramirez This is really helpful, thank you! I m'definitely feeling less anxious about the whole situation now. The mobile app idea for manual reimbursement sounds way more convenient than I was imagining - I was picturing having to mail in paper forms or something. Your point about the 90-day prescription fills is brilliant. I have a maintenance medication that I get monthly, so switching to quarterly refills would definitely help use up a good chunk of the remaining balance. I m'curious about the compression socks - do those really qualify as FSA expenses? I m'on my feet quite a bit at work and have been having some leg fatigue, but I wasn t'sure if they d'need a doctor s'note or specific medical justification. My FSA administrator has been pretty picky lately, so I want to make sure I m'not setting myself up for another headache with a rejected claim. Also, did you end up having to pay penalties on the double-dipped "amount," or was it really just treated as regular income for tax purposes? I m'trying to figure out if I should set aside extra money beyond just the tax amount.
@Marcus Williams Compression socks definitely qualify! They don t'typically need a doctor s'note since they re'considered a general medical device for circulation support. Just make sure the receipt shows they re'compression/medical grade socks rather than regular athletic socks. CVS, Walgreens, and most pharmacies carry FSA-eligible versions that are clearly labeled. For the tax situation, it really was just treated as regular income - no penalties or anything scary. The IRS sees it as you receiving a tax benefit you weren t'entitled to, so you just pay the income tax you should have paid originally. I set aside about 25% of the amount to be safe based (on my tax bracket ,)but ended up not needing quite that much. One more quick spending idea - if you wear contacts, stock up on solution and cases. A year s'supply of quality contact solution can easily run $80-120, and you ll'use it anyway. Same with saline rinses if you have sinus issues - those Neilmed bottles and packets add up but are totally FSA eligible. The mobile app thing varies by administrator, but most of the major ones WageWorks, (Optum, etc. have) pretty decent apps now. Way better than the old days of faxing receipts!
I've been through a very similar FSA situation and wanted to share what worked for me. The key thing to remember is that this is actually a pretty common issue - FSA administrators deal with these "double-dipping" situations all the time, especially with dental and vision claims where insurance processing can be delayed. For your remaining $270, here are some tried-and-true options that can help you spend it down quickly: - Schedule a comprehensive eye exam and order backup glasses or contacts - Stock up on FSA-eligible OTC items like pain relievers, allergy medications, and first aid supplies - Consider a ergonomic assessment or physical therapy consultation for any work-related aches - Purchase a quality thermometer, blood pressure monitor, or pulse oximeter - Get a professional teeth cleaning or fluoride treatment if you're due Regarding the locked card situation - I actually found it liberating in a way. The manual submission process forced me to be more organized about tracking expenses, and most administrators process reimbursements pretty quickly (usually 5-7 business days with direct deposit). The tax implications really aren't that scary. You'll just report the reimbursed amount as income and pay your normal tax rate on it. No penalties or complications. Just keep good records of everything for your tax preparer. One tip: if your plan has a grace period (check with HR!), you might actually have until August to use those funds even after the May plan year ends. That would take a lot of pressure off your timeline. You're handling this responsibly by addressing it head-on rather than ignoring it. These situations always seem more overwhelming than they actually turn out to be!
@Sophia Russo This is such a reassuring perspective, thank you! I really appreciate hearing from someone who s'been through this exact situation. The way you describe it as liberating "to" use manual submissions is actually making me feel a lot better about the whole thing - I was dreading the extra paperwork but maybe it ll'help me stay more organized anyway. The grace period suggestion is huge - I definitely need to call HR tomorrow to check on that. If I do have until August, that would completely change the stress level of this situation. I was panicking about finding $270 worth of eligible expenses in two weeks! Your point about this being common is really helpful too. I was feeling like I d'made some terrible mistake, but it sounds like it s'just one of those things that happens with the timing of insurance claims and FSA payments. I m'definitely going to look into that ergonomic assessment idea - I ve'been having some shoulder issues from my desk setup anyway, so that could actually be beneficial beyond just using up FSA funds. Do you happen to know if those typically require a referral, or can I just schedule one directly and submit the receipt?
Has anyone actually had success getting their credits back after filing Form 8862? My credits were denied two years ago, I filed 8862 last year, and still got rejected again with no clear explanation.
I successfully got my EIC back after filing 8862. The key was having really solid documentation. I included a cover letter explaining my situation clearly and referencing all my supporting documentation (even though you don't actually send the docs with the return). I think the biggest issue people run into is not addressing the specific reason their credits were denied in the first place. Did you ever figure out exactly why they initially denied your credits?
I went through something similar with my brother's return last year. The IRS reduced his refund and he needed to file Form 8862 the following year. One thing that really helped was getting a copy of his account transcript from the IRS website - it shows much more detail about exactly what they adjusted and why. The transcript has specific transaction codes that explain the adjustments, which is way more informative than the basic notice they send. Also, make sure your sister keeps excellent records going forward. The IRS tends to scrutinize returns more closely once someone has been flagged for these credits. Things like school enrollment records, medical appointments, and utility bills in her name at the same address as the kids can all help establish that the children lived with her for more than half the year. The good news is that filing Form 8862 doesn't prevent you from claiming the credits again - it just requires extra documentation and verification. Just be thorough and honest when completing it.
This is really helpful advice! I didn't even know you could get account transcripts from the IRS website. Is this something anyone can access, or do you need special access? Also, when you mention transaction codes - are these something a regular person can understand, or do they require some kind of tax knowledge to interpret? My sister is pretty good about keeping records, but I want to make sure we're focusing on the right types of documentation. The utility bills idea is smart - that's something concrete that shows residency that we wouldn't have thought of otherwise.
Just wanted to chime in about the triathlon training aspect since that's important to you. I'm an EA with my own practice and also train for marathons. The key is setting boundaries with clients. I made it clear from the beginning that I don't work weekends (except maybe a few during peak tax season) and I block off specific training times in my calendar that are non-negotiable. You absolutely can maintain athletic pursuits while being an EA - just structure your practice intentionally!
As someone who's been working in tax preparation for about 3 years now, I can definitely echo what others have said about the EA certification being very manageable while maintaining work-life balance. I passed all three parts in about 8 months while working full-time and training for a half-marathon. One thing I'd add is that your background as a financial advisor will actually be really helpful for the EA exam, especially the individual tax section. You already understand investment products, retirement accounts, and capital gains/losses, which gives you a solid foundation. The H&R Block program is a good start, but I'd recommend supplementing with either Gleim or PassKey EA review materials. The exam tests much deeper knowledge than basic tax prep. For the triathlon training aspect - I actually found that having a structured study schedule helped me stay disciplined with both my training and exam prep. I'd study early mornings before training sessions, which kept me focused and efficient with both activities. One practical tip: consider taking the exams in order (Part 1: Individuals, Part 2: Businesses, Part 3: Representation) rather than all at once. This spreads out the study load and lets you apply what you're learning in real client situations if you're already doing some tax work.
This is really encouraging to hear! I'm actually in a similar situation - been in financial services for about 18 months and looking at the EA route. Your point about the financial advisor background being helpful is reassuring. I've been worried that I don't have enough "traditional" tax knowledge, but you're right that I already understand a lot of the investment side of things. The idea of taking the exams in order rather than all at once is smart - I hadn't considered that approach. Did you find that spreading them out helped you retain the information better, or was it more about managing the workload? And how long did you wait between each part? Also curious about your study schedule - what time of day did you find most effective for studying? I'm naturally more of an evening person but I'm wondering if I should try to shift to morning study sessions like you did.
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Has anyone used TurboTax to handle this specific situation? I use TurboTax Premier and am wondering if it has a way to handle this properly.
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Ella Lewis
ā¢I used TurboTax last year for this exact scenario. In the "Other Income" section, I entered the full amount from the 1099-MISC first. Then I created a second entry also in "Other Income" but as a negative amount for the cost basis. I labeled it clearly as "Cost Basis for IBKR Prediction Contracts reported on 1099-MISC". TurboTax asked if I wanted to attach an explanation statement and I said yes. It worked fine and I didn't have any issues.
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Grace Thomas
I went through this exact same situation with IBKR prediction contracts last year and can confirm the Schedule 1 approach works perfectly. The key is being very clear in your documentation. I reported the full $23,000 on Schedule 1, Line 8i "Other Income" with the description "IBKR 1099-MISC Prediction Contract Proceeds." Then on the very next line, I entered -$22,350 with the description "Cost Basis Adjustment - IBKR Prediction Contracts per 1099-MISC Instructions." I also attached a one-page statement explaining that IBKR reports gross proceeds on 1099-MISC but doesn't account for cost basis, referencing their own documentation that instructs taxpayers to make this adjustment. No red flags, no audit, no problems. The IRS computers can easily see that you're reporting what matches the 1099 they received while properly calculating your actual taxable gain. Keep all your IBKR statements showing the initial purchase and final sale amounts. This is actually a very common issue with prediction market brokers, so the IRS is familiar with it.
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Giovanni Moretti
ā¢This is exactly the kind of detailed walkthrough I was hoping to find! Thank you for breaking down the specific line items and descriptions. I'm dealing with a similar situation but only made about $200 profit on a much smaller trade. Would the same approach work for smaller amounts, or is there a minimum threshold where this kind of adjustment makes sense? Also, did you have to file any additional forms beyond Schedule 1, or was the attached statement sufficient documentation?
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