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Amina Bah

This appears to be a Treasury Offset Program (TOP) synchronization issue. Michigan's Department of Treasury interfaces with the federal TOP system on a predetermined schedule, which creates temporal discrepancies between actual liability and offset amounts. I would recommend initiating a dual-track resolution approach: 1. File a formal Administrative Review request with Michigan's Office of Child Support with all supporting documentation of payments. 2. Simultaneously request a "Proof of Claim" document from Michigan Treasury, which will delineate the exact calculation methodology used for your specific offset. The concerning aspect of your situation is the significant variance between actual liability and offset amount. This suggests a potential systemic error rather than merely a timing issue, which may require escalation to a Treasury Department supervisor with authority to initiate an immediate review.

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Oliver Becker

Oh man, dealing with Michigan's offset system is like trying to teach a cat to swim - technically possible but painfully difficult! πŸ˜‚ I went through almost exactly what you're describing last year after my divorce. They took $3,400 when I only owed about $1,800. The frustrating part was getting bounced between departments like a pinball - Treasury saying it's Friend of Court's problem, FOC saying it's Treasury's issue. What finally worked was physically going to my local FOC office with all my payment receipts and getting them to generate an official "Current Arrearage Statement" showing the correct amount. Then I had to fax (yes, FAX in 2024!) this statement to a specific person at Treasury. It took about 9 weeks, but I eventually got the difference refunded. Hang in there - it's a bureaucratic maze but there is a way through!

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NeonNomad

I'm not convinced waiting is the best approach. What if there's something else going on besides the missing 1099? By the time you get the notice, you could be weeks deeper into penalties and interest. I've always found being proactive with the IRS pays off. Wouldn't filing an amendment now show good faith effort? I appreciate everyone's insights, but I think addressing the known issue head-on might be the better strategy.

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Fatima Al-Hashemi

Based on my experience handling these situations for clients, I need to emphasize that filing an amendment now could actually delay resolution! The IRS processing systems don't handle concurrent processes well. If they're already working on an adjustment for the same issue you're amending, the two processes can conflict and cause even longer delays. I had a client last October who did this and it extended their case by almost 8 weeks!

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Dylan Mitchell

There are several important considerations before amending: β€’ The IRS already knows about the missing income (that's why you got the 420 code) β€’ An amendment creates a separate processing track from the audit β€’ These parallel processes often conflict and cause delays β€’ The IRS may be planning to simply adjust your return β€’ Most CP2000 notices allow you to agree to their adjustment without amending Acting without the notice could complicate rather than simplify.

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Sofia Martinez

Been there. Done that. Got the IRS letter. Here's what happened to me. Missing 1099. Got 420 code. Waited for notice. IRS adjusted automatically. Added tax owed plus small penalty. No full audit needed. Just paid what they calculated. Much simpler than amending. System worked as designed. Saved me paperwork. Your mileage may vary.

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GalacticGladiator

Has anyone here had their ID verification letter actually arrive AFTER they already verified online or by phone? I'm so worried that if I verify without the letter, the letter will arrive later and cause confusion in the system! This whole process makes me so anxious! 😫

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Ethan Brown

I experienced the exact same situation with the TC 570/971 combo and no letter arriving. After analyzing my Account Transcript, I noticed the specific Action Code 5071 attached to the 971, which explicitly indicates identity verification is required. On February 22nd, I verified through ID.me without waiting for the letter. My transcript updated with TC 290 on March 1st, followed by TC 571 (reversal of previous hold) on March 3rd. DDD (direct deposit date) code 846 appeared on March 5th with payment scheduled for March 8th. The IRS is currently experiencing a 38% increase in identity verification cases compared to last year due to enhanced fraud prevention measures. Your fluctuating "as of" dates are simply weekly processing cycle updates and don't indicate any problems.

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Yuki Yamamoto

How did you know which action code to look for? My transcript has a 971 but I can't tell what the action code is or what it means.

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Carmen Ruiz

Did you have to upload any documentation during the ID.me process? I've heard some people need to provide utility bills or other proof of address.

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Natasha Ivanova

According to the Return Processing Pipeline (RPP) metrics, the IRS is experiencing a 22.7% increase in processing times for returns filed in the second week of February compared to last year. This is likely due to enhanced fraud detection algorithms implemented in the Master File System. I suggest checking your transcript for Transaction Code 150, which indicates your return has been processed through the initial verification stage. Without this code, your return is still in pre-processing.

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NebulaNomad

I feel this so much. It's like being stuck in tax limbo! Last year my return sat in this pre-processing stage for almost 3 weeks before suddenly moving through all the stages in 2 days. The IRS system is like an old car - sometimes it stalls for no reason, then suddenly roars to life when you least expect it. Hang in there!

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Javier Garcia

I filed on February 13th as well and just saw movement yesterday (March 23rd). My transcript updated with a direct deposit date of March 27th. Last year when I filed on February 15th, I received my refund on March 5th. This year is definitely taking longer for everyone, not just you.

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Sofia Perez

According to Internal Revenue Manual 21.4.1.3, the cycle code indicates when your return completed processing. Per IRM 21.4.1.3(1), the first two digits (20) represent the year, the next two (25) represent the processing week of the year, and the last digit (5) indicates the processing day within the week. The as of date is a compliance-related marker and does not directly correlate to refund issuance timing. I would recommend checking your account transcript again next Friday morning (after the overnight Thursday update). If PATH Act verification is complete, you should see an 846 code with a direct deposit date, typically 5-7 days after the code appears.

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Andre Dubois

So if my cycle code is 20250502, does that mean my return completed processing on a Tuesday (2) of the 5th week? And would that put me on a different update schedule than the original poster?

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CyberSamurai

Is there any way to see these updates in real-time rather than waiting for the IRS systems to update? My refund is pretty substantial this year and I'm checking multiple times daily.

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Dmitry Smirnov

Just wanted to share some hope - I had almost the EXACT same situation. Filed 1/14, accepted 1/15, cycle code 20250505, and my as of date changed from 03/10 to 02/17 last week. Got my 846 code yesterday with a DDD of 02/28! The system is working, just slowly. The as of date change was definitely the signal that things were moving for me. Hang in there!

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QuantumQueen

The community consensus this season is that transcript 846 codes are the gold standard for refund tracking. WMR is basically the Internet Explorer of IRS tools - always a few days behind! From what we've seen in hundreds of posts, about 80% of refunds hit accounts on the exact DDD date, 15% arrive one business day later, and 5% arrive early (especially with certain credit unions). Your medical expenses should be covered right on schedule - the IRS may be slow to update their tools, but they're surprisingly punctual with the actual money transfers.

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Aisha Rahman

Word of caution from someone who's been there: even with an 846 code, keep an eye out for a potential offset. Last year I had a perfect transcript with DDD but ended up getting $1,800 less than expected because of a student loan offset I didn't know about. The 846 amount was the pre-offset amount. I was counting on that money for emergency dental work and was completely blindsided. Not trying to worry you unnecessarily, but if you're depending on this for medical expenses, it's worth double-checking that there are no potential offsets in your situation.

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FireflyDreams

I'm fairly certain this post is somewhat misleading. While the 846 code does generally indicate a refund is coming, there are potentially several factors that could still delay it. In my experience, which spans approximately 15 tax seasons, I've occasionally seen deposits take up to 5 business days after the listed date, particularly if there were any offsets or adjustments. It's probably best not to count on the money being available immediately, especially if you're planning to make important financial decisions based on its arrival.

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Natasha Kuznetsova

I got my 846 code on January 29th this year, and my deposit hit my Chime account on January 30th at exactly 3:17pm. I think it really depends on when the IRS batch processes your specific refund. Last year I had to wait until February 3rd even though my 846 date was February 1st. Just sharing my experience in case it helps!

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Javier Morales

This timing variation is actually quite common. I've handled hundreds of tax returns over the years, and I've seen the deposit timing vary by bank and even by individual refund. The key thing to understand is that the 846 date is when the IRS initiates the payment, not necessarily when it will arrive. The Treasury Department processes these payments in batches, and your bank's policies determine the final timing.

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Emma Anderson

Thx for the real-world example! I've been with Chime for 3 yrs now and they've always been super quick w/ my tax refunds. Usually get mine 1-2 days b4 the 846 date. Pro tip for anyone waiting: turn on Chime notifications so u don't have to keep checking the app. They'll send u a msg the second it hits ur acct! Saved me tons of anxiety last yr when I was waiting for my CTC refund.

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Zainab Ibrahim

Last year my as-of date changed SEVEN times! Started Feb 13, went to Mar 6, back to Feb 20, then Mar 13, back to Feb 27, then Mar 20, and finally settled on Mar 6. Got my refund exactly 9 days after that final date. The process is maddening - I checked transcripts every morning at 6am and every night at midnight. The cycle 05 means you're on weekly processing (Thursdays), which is actually better than daily in my experience. The daily cycles seem to get more delays and verification holds.

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Connor O'Neill

Anyone else find it ridiculous that we have to become amateur IRS code detectives just to figure out when we'll get our own money back? My as-of date did the same dance last month, and I was ready to throw my computer out the window. But guess what? The refund showed up exactly 8 days after the date stopped changing. Hang in there - the changing dates actually mean your return is moving through their system, not stuck in limbo. Thanks to everyone here who explains these things so clearly!

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MidnightRider

Here's how to fully understand what's happening with your return: 1. First, verify you're truly a Cycle 02 filer by looking at your account transcript - the cycle code will be something like 20240702 (where 02 is your cycle) 2. Next, check for the 846 code with the 2/24 date - this confirms your refund is scheduled 3. Look for any 570/971 codes that haven't been resolved - if they have the same date as your 846 or earlier dates, they're likely resolved 4. The WMR tool updates on a completely different schedule than transcripts, typically overnight between 3-6am EST 5. PATH Act verification is typically completed by mid-February, which aligns with your timeline I'm seeing a lot of Cycle 02 filers getting updates today, so this seems to be a normal batch processing.

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Andre Laurent

Pro tip from someone who's been through many tax seasons: ALWAYS trust your transcript over WMR. The transcript is the actual IRS internal record while WMR is just a simplified status tool that often lags behind. When you see that 846 code with a date, that's your money on the way! The IRS website even says WMR can take up to 72 hours to reflect transcript changes. Congrats on your coming refund!

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Luca Conti

So if my transcript shows N/A for 2024 but WMR shows received, which one should I trust? I'm starting to worry my return has issues.

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Freya Larsen

I waited too long to call about this exact situation last year and regretted it. My 'as of date' kept changing for 8 weeks! When I finally reached someone, it turned out they needed a simple verification that could have been handled in 5 minutes if I'd called earlier. Have you checked if your address on file matches exactly what you submitted? Even small differences can trigger these review codes.

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Omar Hassan

According to Internal Revenue Manual 21.4.1, Transaction Code 0605 indicates 'Additional Liability Pending/Unassessed Tax.' This appears when the IRS system has flagged your return for potential adjustment or review. The changing 'as of' dates indicate processing timeline extensions within the Integrated Automation Technologies system. This is standard procedure when certain verification protocols are triggered, particularly common with military families who have multiple state filings or overseas income considerations. Your return remains in the normal processing queue, albeit with additional verification steps.

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