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Make sure you're considering all operational costs of the truck separate from depreciation. I've run a taco truck for 6 years now and wish someone had told me to track everything separately from day one. Create categories for: 1) Fuel 2) Regular maintenance (oil changes etc) 3) Major repairs 4) Permits and licenses (these vary hugely by city/county) 5) Insurance (commercial vehicle policy) 6) Commissary kitchen fees if applicable 7) Point of sale system costs This makes it way easier at tax time and helps you see where your money is actually going!
As someone who's been through the food truck startup process recently, I want to emphasize that you should also consider the timing of when you place the truck "in service" for tax purposes. Since you mentioned you've been operating since August, that's your placed-in-service date - not when you bought it if those dates are different. Also, keep detailed records of any modifications or improvements you make to the truck after purchase. Things like additional cooking equipment, POS system installations, or structural modifications to the kitchen area can often be depreciated separately and sometimes more favorably than the base vehicle. One thing I learned the hard way - if you're planning to expand to multiple trucks in the future, the depreciation strategy you choose now can impact your options later. Section 179 has annual limits that apply across all your business equipment, so if you're thinking about rapid expansion, you might want to discuss with a tax pro whether spreading some depreciation over time makes sense for your long-term plans. Good luck with the empanada business - the food truck industry is challenging but incredibly rewarding when you find your groove!
This is really helpful advice about the placed-in-service date! I hadn't realized there could be a difference between purchase date and when you actually start using it for business. In my case they're the same since I bought it specifically to start the food truck business, but good to know for future reference. The point about Section 179 limits for future expansion is something I definitely need to think about. I'm already getting requests to cater private events and wondering if I should get a second smaller truck next year. Would it make sense to maybe do partial Section 179 this year and save some of that annual limit for future equipment purchases? Or does the limit reset each tax year? And thanks for the encouragement on the empanada business! It's been a wild ride but people are loving the authentic recipes I learned from my grandmother. The food truck community has been super supportive too.
Just a heads-up for anyone applying for a trust EIN - make sure you're clear about what type of trust you have before starting the application. I messed up and had to call to get it fixed. Estate trusts, living trusts, and testamentary trusts are all handled differently. Double check your paperwork first!!
Can you elaborate on what the differences are in the application process? I have a revocable living trust if that matters.
For revocable living trusts, you'll select "Trust" as the entity type and then specify it's a "Grantor Trust" since the grantor (you) retains control. The key difference is that revocable trusts are typically disregarded entities for tax purposes while the grantor is alive, so you might not even need a separate EIN unless you're planning to open bank accounts or have specific income-generating assets in the trust. Some banks require it even for revocable trusts though. Make sure you have the trust agreement date and the grantor's SSN ready - that's what they'll ask for specifically.
Thanks everyone for all the helpful responses! I ended up going with the online application route after reading through all your advice. @Sophia Gabriel your direct link was exactly what I needed - I had been getting lost in the general IRS website maze. I made sure to gather all my trust documents beforehand and set aside a solid 30 minutes without interruptions. The 15-minute timeout is real, so definitely don't start unless you're ready to finish! For anyone else doing this, the key info you'll need ready is: trust name, date the trust was established, trustee's full name and SSN, and the trust's address. Got my EIN instantly once I submitted the application. The whole process took about 10 minutes once I actually found the right page. Really appreciate everyone sharing their experiences - it made this so much less stressful!
That's awesome that you got it sorted out! I'm actually in a similar situation right now - just started the process of setting up a trust for my elderly parents and was dreading dealing with the IRS paperwork. Your experience gives me hope that it's not as complicated as I was making it out to be in my head. Quick question - when you say you needed the "trust's address," did you use your home address or did you need to set up a separate address for the trust? I'm still figuring out all these details and want to make sure I have everything right before I start the application.
I'm a CPA who deals with a lot of real estate clients. The most conservative approach is to capitalize and depreciate over 27.5 years. But I've had success with clients documenting the specific useful life of roof coatings (typically 10-15 years based on manufacturer specs) and depreciating over that period. Just make sure you have solid documentation from the manufacturer about the expected lifespan and keep that with your tax records. The key is consistency in how you treat similar expenditures and having documentation to back up your position if audited.
As someone who's dealt with similar situations, I'd recommend getting a structural engineer's assessment of the roof coating project. This documentation can be crucial for tax purposes because it provides independent verification of whether the work is extending useful life (capitalization required) or simply maintaining the existing condition (potentially expensable). The engineer's report should specifically address: 1) The current condition of the roof, 2) What the coating will accomplish (protection vs. restoration), and 3) The expected useful life of the coating itself. This third point is key - if the engineer documents that the coating has a determinable useful life of 15 years based on the specific product and application, you'll have stronger support for depreciating over that period rather than the building's 27.5-year recovery period. I've seen clients successfully use this approach, but it requires good documentation upfront. The cost of the engineering assessment (usually $2-3k) is often worth it when you're dealing with a $135k expenditure.
This is really helpful advice! The engineering assessment approach makes a lot of sense for this size of expenditure. Do you know if the engineer needs any specific certifications or credentials for the IRS to accept their assessment? And when you say "determinable useful life," does that mean the report needs to be very specific about the 15-year timeframe, or is it okay if they give a range like 12-18 years? I want to make sure we get the documentation right the first time.
Great question! You're dealing with what's called "pre-rental" expenses, and the good news is that most of what you described should be deductible. Since you inherited the property in January and placed it in service in October of the same year, with clear intent to rent it out, those repair expenses should qualify for deduction. The key distinction is that repairs like fixing plumbing, patching roof leaks, and general maintenance are typically deductible in the year paid, even if done before officially renting. However, that water heater replacement would likely be considered a capital improvement that needs to be depreciated over 27.5 years (unless it qualifies for the de minimis safe harbor if under $2,500). Make sure to keep detailed records showing your rental intent from the beginning - any correspondence with contractors, rental market research, listing attempts, etc. This documentation will support your position if the IRS ever questions the timing of these deductions. Also consider whether you might qualify for Section 199A deductions on your rental income once you start receiving it - it's worth looking into for additional tax savings!
This is really helpful, thanks! I'm definitely going to look into that Section 199A deduction - I had no idea that was even a thing for rental properties. Quick follow-up question: for the documentation you mentioned about showing rental intent, would things like getting insurance quotes for rental coverage or researching comparable rent prices in the area count as evidence? I did both of those things back in February/March while I was planning the repairs.
Just to add another perspective from someone who's been through multiple property acquisitions - timing documentation is absolutely crucial for pre-rental expenses. I learned this the hard way when the IRS audited one of my rental properties a few years back. Beyond what others have mentioned, I'd also suggest documenting any property inspections you had done, communications with property management companies (even if you didn't hire them), and any advertisements or listings you may have posted. The IRS wants to see a clear "business purpose" timeline. One thing that really helped me was creating a simple spreadsheet tracking all expenses by category (repairs vs. improvements) with dates and descriptions. It made tax prep so much easier and showed the IRS I was treating this as a legitimate business from day one. Also worth noting - if you did any work yourself on the property, you can't deduct your own labor, but you can deduct materials and any tools you purchased specifically for the rental property work.
This is such solid advice! The spreadsheet idea is brilliant - I wish I had thought of that from the beginning. I'm definitely going to create one now even though I'm a bit late to the game. Quick question about the tools - if I bought a drill or other tools that I'll use for multiple properties (not just this one), can I still deduct the full cost or do I need to prorate it somehow? I bought quite a few tools this year that I'll definitely be using for maintenance on all my rentals going forward. Also, did the IRS audit end up going smoothly for you with all that documentation? I'm always nervous about getting audited, especially with rental properties since the rules seem so complex.
Kaitlyn Otto
Make sure u update ur W-4 after the baby is born!! I made the mistake of not doing this and was getting way less in my paychecks than I should have. The IRS has an option specifically for reporting a new baby/dependent.
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Axel Far
ā¢Is it better to update your W-4 right away or just wait and get it all back at tax time? I'm expecting in December and wondering if it's even worth bothering for just a couple weeks of the year.
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Reina Salazar
Yes, you can absolutely get back more than you paid in taxes! This is totally normal and legal through refundable tax credits. The big ones for your situation are the Earned Income Tax Credit (EITC) and Child Tax Credit. With your income around $15,000 and a baby coming, you'll likely qualify for a substantial EITC - potentially around $3,995 for one child. Plus up to $1,600 from the refundable portion of the Child Tax Credit. Since your baby will be born by December 31st, you can claim them for the entire 2024 tax year. These credits were specifically designed to help working families with lower to moderate incomes, so getting back $9,000 when you only paid in $2,700 is exactly how the system is supposed to work. The IRS calculator is accurate - you're not seeing a glitch, you're seeing the safety net in action! Just make sure to keep all your documentation and file accurately. Congratulations on your upcoming arrival!
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Carmen Lopez
ā¢This is really helpful! I'm new to understanding how taxes work and had no idea that refundable credits even existed. So just to make sure I understand - these aren't like loopholes or anything sketchy, they're actually government programs designed to help people in situations like mine? The whole concept of getting money back that I didn't pay in seems too good to be true, but if multiple people are saying this is normal then I guess I should trust the IRS calculator. Thanks for breaking it down so clearly!
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