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Yuki Ito

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Just to add another data point - I went through this exact situation last year. Owed about $5,800 and set up an installment plan with zero issues. The confusion might be about the different TYPES of installment plans. For amounts under $10,000, you qualify for a "guaranteed" installment agreement which is actually easier to get than plans for higher amounts. For amounts over $10K but under $50K, there's a "streamlined" installment plan which requires a bit more information but is still pretty straightforward. The agent your cousin spoke to might have been referring to some other program, or maybe was talking about an "offer in compromise" which is totally different - that's when you negotiate to pay less than the full amount owed.

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Carmen Lopez

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Do you remember what the monthly payment amount was for your $5,800 balance? I'm trying to figure out if they let you choose how much to pay each month or if they assign an amount.

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Yuki Ito

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You generally can choose your monthly payment amount as long as the debt will be paid off within the required timeframe. For amounts under $10,000, that timeframe is 3 years (36 months). So in my case, the minimum payment would have been about $161 per month not including interest and penalties. I actually opted to pay $200 per month to account for the ongoing interest and penalties and to clear the debt faster. They let me choose this amount during the application process. I set up direct debit from my checking account to avoid having to remember to make the payments and to get the lowest setup fee.

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Andre Dupont

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One important thing to note - if your cousin owes for the 2023 tax year and hasn't filed yet, he should still file by the deadline even if he can't pay everything! The failure-to-file penalty is much worse than the failure-to-pay penalty. Also, I'd recommend having him call back and speak to a different agent, or trying the online payment agreement system at irs.gov directly. The online system is actually pretty easy to use for amounts under $10K.

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Completely agree about filing on time! The failure-to-file penalty is 5% of the unpaid taxes for each month your return is late, up to 25%. The failure-to-pay penalty is much lower at 0.5% per month.

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Zara Rashid

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Thank you for pointing this out! He did file on time, he just couldn't pay the full amount at once. I'll definitely suggest he try the online system since that seems to be the consensus here - much easier than trying to call again.

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Not sure if this helps but I found another option - some public libraries offer free tax help sessions with volunteers who can answer questions like this. My local library partners with AARP Tax-Aide and they helped me with 1099-B questions last year. Worth checking if your library offers something similar!

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These volunteer programs are hit or miss for investment questions though. I tried VITA last year and the volunteer wasn't comfortable answering my stock trading questions. Said they mostly handle basic returns without investment income.

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NebulaNomad

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If it's just a few simple stock trades, Reddit has a subreddit called r/tax where professionals answer questions for free. I've gotten good advice there before. Just be specific about your question and don't include personal info.

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Another option is to check property tax records for similar homes that sold recently in your area. I did this before buying my house and it gave me a pretty good idea of what to expect. The county assessor's website usually has public records of property values and tax amounts. Look for homes that are similar in size, age and features to the one you're buying, and that sold within the last year. See what their assessed value became after sale and what their current tax bill is. It won't be exact, but it can give you a ballpark figure to work with.

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Do you know if there's a way to see just the reassessed properties? When I look at the county website, I can't tell which ones have been recently reassessed vs ones that haven't changed hands in years.

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Most county websites allow you to filter or sort by "sale date" or "transfer date." Once you find properties with recent sales, you can look at their assessment history to see both the before and after values. The assessment records typically show the date of assessment changes as well. If your county site doesn't have good filtering options, you can usually still see the last sale date on each property record. Just look for ones that sold recently, then check if their assessed value changed after that sale date.

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Connor Byrne

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One thing nobody's mentioned - don't forget about supplemental tax bills! When I bought my house, I got hit with a "supplemental assessment" about 4 months after closing. Basically, they charge you the difference between the old owner's tax rate and your new rate for the partial year you've owned it. So even though the regular annual bill might not change until next year, you could still get an additional bill sooner to make up the difference. I wasn't expecting this and it threw off my budget for a few months.

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Yara Elias

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This happened to me too! I got a random $1,200 bill about 5 months after moving in. My mortgage company didn't handle it because it was outside the normal property tax schedule.

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Mei Wong

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Your boyfriend should also check state laws. Some states like California have much stricter tests for independent contractor classification (like the ABC test). Even if the company tries to argue they meet IRS guidelines (which sounds like they don't), state law might offer better protection.

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Would he need to hire a lawyer to deal with this if the company insists on the W-9? That could get expensive real quick.

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Mei Wong

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Not necessarily. There are several free options before considering a lawyer. He can file Form SS-8 with the IRS to request a determination of worker status, which costs nothing. He can also contact his state's labor department, which typically offers free assistance with worker classification issues. If he's misclassified and files the SS-8, the company may receive a notice from the IRS about proper classification. Many companies will correct the issue at that point to avoid penalties. Legal help is usually a last resort after exhausting these administrative remedies.

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Liam McGuire

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Am I the only one wondering if maybe this brewery is just a small business that doesn't know what they're doing? I've worked for several small craft breweries and sometimes the owners are great at making beer but terrible at HR stuff. They might have googled "tax form for new hire" and grabbed the wrong one without understanding the difference.

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Amara Eze

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This is a really good point! My cousin's small construction business did something similar - gave 1099s to everyone because that's what the previous owner had done. When an employee pointed out the error, they were actually grateful and fixed it right away. Not every misclassification is malicious - sometimes it's just ignorance.

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Don't forget that different states have different inheritance tax rules too! The federal stepped-up basis is just part of it. What state is this property in? Some states have inheritance taxes separate from federal taxes.

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The property is in Arizona. I hadn't even thought about state-specific taxes, though. Do they handle the basis calculation differently there?

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Arizona doesn't have a state inheritance tax or estate tax, so you're in luck there! You'll only need to worry about federal taxes on any gain above your stepped-up basis. Arizona follows the federal rules for stepped-up basis, so whatever fair market value you establish for federal tax purposes will also work for your Arizona state tax return. Just make sure you keep thorough documentation of how you determined the property's value at the time of inheritance.

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Have you considered just using the sale price as the fair market value for your stepped-up basis? Since it sold within a couple years of your mom's passing and was apparently just sitting there undeveloped, you could argue the value at death wasn't significantly different?

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That's terrible advice and could get OP audited. The IRS specifically looks for people claiming no gain on inherited property sales. The stepped-up basis has to be established at date of death, not date of sale. If there was significant appreciation between those dates (like a developer suddenly becoming interested), claiming no gain would raise red flags.

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