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Demi Hall

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Quick question - did you have any ongoing service contracts or warranties with the vending machine that you also sold? That might need to be handled separately.

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Not OP but I had a similar situation with equipment I sold. The service contract portion gets allocated separately as ordinary income, not as part of the capital transaction. At least that's how my accountant handled it.

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Liam Duke

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Yeah actually I did have a service contract that transferred to the new owner with about 8 months left on it. I hadn't even thought about that part. I paid $3200 for a 3-year service plan originally.

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Kara Yoshida

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Side note but I'm curious why ice vending machines aren't profitable? I always thought those things were cash cows with minimal maintenance. What went wrong if you don't mind sharing?

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Liam Duke

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Location, location, location. I put it in what I thought was a great spot near a lake where people go fishing and boating, but it turns out most people just bring their own ice in coolers. The property lease was expensive, electricity costs were higher than projected, and I had several expensive repairs in the first year. Competition from nearby gas stations with cheaper ice didn't help either. The ROI calculations from the manufacturer were... let's just say optimistic.

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Mason Lopez

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Another option - check if your state's Secretary of State website has a business entity search. You can usually look up the company and find their EIN or at least their full legal name and address for your records. I had to do this when a client disappeared on me. The information is public record for registered businesses.

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Pedro Sawyer

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That's a fantastic idea! I hadn't thought about checking public records. Would the Secretary of State site definitely have the EIN though? I was under the impression that EINs aren't always public information.

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Mason Lopez

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The Secretary of State site won't always have the EIN directly listed, you're right about that. But it will have the company's official registered name, address, and usually the name of the registered agent or owner. Having the full legal entity name is often helpful when reporting on your taxes. With that information, you can also try searching the EDGAR database on the SEC website if it's a larger company, or sometimes even a Google search for "[Company Name] EIN" works because companies often put their EIN on various public documents. Local business licenses sometimes include this info too.

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Vera Visnjic

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Why not just report what you think you earned on Schedule C? The IRS probably won't even notice if your estimate is reasonably close to what the company reports. I've had missing 1099s before and just guessed the amount based on what I remembered making. Never had an issue.

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Jake Sinclair

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This is terrible advice. If your estimate is significantly lower than what the company reports, you'll get a CP2000 notice and potentially owe penalties and interest. Better to overestimate slightly than underreport.

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Eli Wang

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Something nobody mentioned yet - check if you're still considered a tax resident of Sweden under Swedish tax laws. Each country has their own rules for determining when someone stops being a tax resident after moving abroad. Some European countries consider you a tax resident for the entire calendar year even if you move away partway through the year. Others have specific rules about maintaining tax residency for a certain period after departure if you still have significant ties to the country. If Sweden still considers you a tax resident based on their domestic tax laws, that would give you a stronger claim to list Sweden on your W-8BEN.

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That's a really good point I hadn't considered. Do you know if there's any downside to claiming Sweden if they still consider me a tax resident? Would I still have tax obligations to Sweden even though I'm now living in the US?

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Eli Wang

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Yes, that's the potential catch - if Sweden still considers you a tax resident, you might have ongoing tax filing obligations there. Sweden, like many countries, taxes its residents on worldwide income. However, there's a tax treaty between the US and Sweden that prevents double taxation. The treaty typically assigns primary taxing rights to the country where you're physically performing work (the US in your case for your PhD stipend), but investment income like dividends can be more complicated. The treaty usually reduces withholding rates, but you might need to report the income in both countries. I'd recommend checking the Skatteverket (Swedish Tax Agency) website or contacting them directly about your specific situation to understand if and when your tax residency in Sweden officially ends.

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Just to add a practical perspective - I'm a German citizen who lived in France before moving to the US for grad school. I listed France on my W-8BEN since that's where I last paid taxes and had my permanent address. My university's international student office advised that for F1 students, the "residence" on W-8BEN should generally be where you would return if your F1 status ended, and where you have the strongest ties. They said citizenship is less relevant than your actual tax home.

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Did you have any issues with your broker accepting the form with France instead of Germany? I'm worried my investment platform might question why my citizenship country doesn't match my residence country.

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Omar Fawzi

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17 Tell your friend not to panic but he needs to act ASAP. The IRS is actually pretty reasonable with people who come forward voluntarily versus those they have to chase down. He should first request his wage and income transcripts from the IRS to see exactly what's been reported under his SSN. This way he can see if the 7-Eleven errors are documented and what he's actually dealing with. Then file any unfiled returns immediately. Even if he can't pay right away, filing stops the failure-to-file penalties from growing. After that, he can apply for a payment plan based on what he can afford monthly.

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Omar Fawzi

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2 Does requesting those transcripts trigger any kind of audit or review? My cousin says anytime you contact the IRS directly you're putting yourself on their radar for an audit. Is that true?

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Omar Fawzi

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17 Requesting your wage and income transcripts absolutely does not trigger an audit or special review. That's a common misconception. These transcripts are your right as a taxpayer and millions of people request them every year for perfectly routine reasons. The IRS selects returns for audit based on specific statistical formulas looking for outliers and unusual patterns, not because someone requested their own information. In fact, being proactive about your tax situation by requesting transcripts and filing accurately is more likely to help you stay off the audit radar.

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Omar Fawzi

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8 One thing nobody mentioned - if your friend's W-2 was actually incorrect, he might not even owe as much as he thinks! When my previous employer screwed up my W-2, they reported that I made about $8000 more than I actually did. What tax software did your friend use? Some of them have audit protection or tax professional assistance if you get into trouble. Might be worth checking if he can still access that.

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Omar Fawzi

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1 Not sure what software he used, but that's a good point about the W-2 possibly being wrong. How would he even go about proving that though? 7-Eleven probably isn't going to just admit they made a mistake, especially 2 years later.

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Don't forget about state taxes too! While the federal rules might allow 100% deduction through Section 179, some states have different rules. For example, here in California, we have to follow the pre-TCJA depreciation schedules for many assets, including vehicles. Make sure you look into your state's rules before making any big purchases.

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Paolo Longo

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Good point! I'm in New York and got surprised last year when my state return didn't match the federal deductions. Do you know if there's a good resource that compares state vs federal depreciation rules?

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I don't know of one comprehensive resource that covers all states, unfortunately. Each state has its own tax department website that usually outlines the differences between federal and state treatment of depreciation and Section 179. For New York specifically, they've partially decoupled from federal bonus depreciation rules but do follow the federal Section 179 limits with some modifications. Your best bet is to check the NY Department of Taxation and Finance website or consult with a tax professional who specializes in your state. I've found that state-specific tax forums can also be helpful for these kinds of questions.

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CosmicCowboy

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Just to add to the Section 179 discussion - remember you need to use the vehicle more than 50% for business to qualify for Section 179. If business use drops below 50% in later years, you might have to recapture some of that deduction. Keep a mileage log to track business vs personal use! I learned this the hard way.

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Amina Diallo

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What's the easiest way to track mileage? Do you use an app or just write it down?

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CosmicCowboy

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I use MileIQ app and it's been a lifesaver. It automatically tracks all my drives and I just swipe right for business trips and left for personal. At the end of the year, I can export a detailed report for tax purposes. Before that, I tried keeping a paper log but always forgot to update it. The IRS can be really strict about mileage documentation during audits, so having an app that automatically creates timestamped records with starting and ending locations has given me peace of mind. Some other popular options are Everlance and Hurdlr - they all have free versions you can try.

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