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Just to add another perspective - you might want to consider whether you actually WANT to withhold exactly the right amount. My spouse and I are in a similar income bracket (about $800k combined) and we actually prefer to slightly underwithhold and make quarterly estimated tax payments instead. The advantage is we keep control of that money throughout the year rather than giving the government an interest-free loan. We put the money that would have been withheld into a high-yield account, and then make the required quarterly payments to avoid penalties. As long as you pay in at least 100% of your previous year's tax liability through withholding and estimated payments (or 110% if your AGI was over $150k), you won't face any underpayment penalties.
That's an interesting approach I hadn't considered! About how much do you typically underwithhold? And do you just make equal quarterly payments, or is there some calculation involved? I'm intrigued by the idea of having more control over our money throughout the year.
We typically underwithhold by about 15% of our total expected tax liability. For someone in your situation, that might mean underwithholding by around $30,000 total for the year, or $2,500 monthly that stays in your accounts instead of going to the IRS. The quarterly payments don't have to be equal if your income fluctuates, but we keep it simple and just divide our expected shortfall by 4. The payment due dates are April 15, June 15, September 15, and January 15 of the following year. You can make them online at the IRS website using Direct Pay or EFTPS. Just make sure you're meeting that safe harbor of 110% of your previous year's tax liability (since you're over the $150k AGI threshold). That's the easiest way to guarantee no penalties regardless of this year's actual liability.
Has anyone used the IRS Tax Withholding Estimator for this situation? I tried using it but felt like I was still guessing at some of the inputs. Our income is close to OP's and we have the same problem every year!
I use it all the time and find it really accurate, but it's crucial that you include ALL income sources, not just your W-2 jobs. Make sure you're entering things like investment income, rental properties, etc. The other key is to update it quarterly since your situation might change throughout the year.
Have you looked into Wave Receipts? It's free and does a decent job for basic receipt tracking. I've been using it for my Etsy business for about a year. Not super fancy but gets the job done if you don't need all the bells and whistles.
Yes, you can export expense reports as PDFs or spreadsheets that work well for tax filing. The reports show all the transaction details and categories that match up with Schedule C. You can also generate specific date range reports, like quarterly or annual. The only limitation I've found is that the automatic categorization isn't always perfect, so I do have to go in and correct some entries occasionally. But for a free tool, it's pretty solid and has saved me tons of time compared to my old method of manually tracking everything in spreadsheets.
Whatever app you choose, make sure it backs up your data! I used a receipt app last year (can't remember the name) and it crashed/reset, losing 3 months of receipts. My tax preparer was NOT happy and I probably missed out on like $2k in deductions. Now I use one that syncs to my cloud storage automatically.
4 You might want to look into claiming this as a business bad debt on Form 8949. I'm not an accountant, but I had to write off some unpaid invoices a couple years ago. The key distinction is whether you provided services (which it sounds like you did) or if you loaned money. Different rules apply to each situation.
12 Thanks for the suggestion! Would I need any special documentation to prove I actually tried to collect the debt? I have the original contract, all my invoices, and email threads showing I tried to get paid multiple times.
4 Yes, documentation is critical. Keep your original contract, all invoices sent, and especially any communications showing you attempted to collect payment. Also document how you determined the company was bankrupt and the debt uncollectible - like news articles about their shutdown, bankruptcy filings, or bounced emails to company addresses. Form 8949 is typically used for capital losses, but business bad debts can sometimes be reported as short-term capital losses. However, this really depends on your specific situation and whether you're using cash or accrual accounting.
16 Wait, wouldn't this qualify as a 1099 situation? If they paid you $7,200, they should have sent you a 1099-NEC if it was over $600. Did you receive that form? Cause that affects how you report this whole thing.
3 Good point! They definitely should have issued a 1099-NEC for payments over $600. If they didn't, you should still report the income you actually received, but that missing 1099 might be another sign the company wasn't following proper business practices.
Don't forget about state taxes! Your K-1 loss will likely reduce your state taxable income too. Depending on your state's tax rate, this could add another significant savings on top of the federal tax reduction. In my case (California), my tiny partnership loss was actually worth more on my state return than federal because of our high state rates. Also, if you do any business travel related to checking on the property or meeting with your brother about business decisions, keep track of those expenses. They can be deductible as partnership expenses on next year's K-1 if properly documented.
Great point about state taxes. Do K-1 losses always work the same way for state taxes as they do for federal? I'm in Virginia and sometimes our state rules are different than federal.
State tax treatment generally follows federal rules, but there can definitely be differences. Virginia typically conforms to federal tax law for pass-through entities like partnerships, so your K-1 loss should flow through to your state return similarly. However, some states have their own limitations or adjustments for passive losses. The best approach is to check your specific state's tax department website or consult with a tax professional familiar with your state. Even with potential variations, in most cases you'll still see some benefit at the state level from reporting your K-1 loss.
I made a huge mistake with my K-1 losses two years ago! I didn't think it was "worth the hassle" so I just ignored it. Got a lovely CP2000 notice from the IRS saying I owed penalties and interest because they had received the partnership return showing my tax ID but I never reported it on my personal return. Even if the loss doesn't save you much in taxes, you HAVE to report it. The IRS computers automatically match K-1s to your SSN/TIN. When they see a K-1 was issued to you but not reported, it triggers a mismatch that will eventually get flagged for review.
How much was the penalty? I'm wondering because I might have done the same thing last year... thought my K-1 loss was so small it wouldn't matter š¬
Sara Unger
Something similar happened to my brother. It's because the exchanges report to the IRS on a 1099-K (for crypto) or 1099-B (for stocks) showing the gross proceeds from sales, but often don't include your cost basis. So the IRS assumes your basis is $0 and taxes you on the entire amount. Make sure you fill out Form 8949 with ALL your transactions, showing the correct cost basis for each one. Then submit it with a written explanation. If you're dealing with a LOT of transactions, you can summarize them but be prepared to provide details if asked.
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Haley Stokes
ā¢Thanks for the response! Do I need to send the physical copies of Form 8949 or can I do this electronically? Also, should I be calling the number on the notice or is there a better way to handle this?
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Sara Unger
ā¢You should respond in the same format as the notice you received. If they sent a physical letter, send back physical forms. The notice should have specific instructions about how to respond - follow those exactly. There should be an address listed specifically for responses. Calling can be helpful, but honestly, with basis issues like this, written documentation is more important since you need to provide proof of your purchase prices. Make sure to keep copies of absolutely everything you send them. I'd also recommend sending it certified mail so you have proof of when it was delivered.
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Butch Sledgehammer
I had this nightmare last year! What worked for me was: 1) Don't ignore it, definitely respond within the timeframe on the notice 2) Get ALL your transaction records together - every purchase and sale 3) Create a spreadsheet showing date purchased, purchase price, date sold, sale price, and gain/loss for each transaction 4) Complete Form 8949 correctly - this is super important 5) Write a clear letter explaining the error If you have a ton of transactions, the IRS actually allows you to attach a spreadsheet instead of listing each one on separate 8949 forms. Just make sure the spreadsheet has all the required columns from the form.
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Freya Ross
ā¢Do you need to include statements from the exchanges too or is the spreadsheet enough? I'm in a similar situation but some of my records are incomplete.
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