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Noah Torres

Having problems with FORM 3853 on TurboTax - need help ASAP

Ok so I'm trying to file my taxes using TurboTax and I've run into a major issue with FORM 3853. I've spent the last week trying to figure this out and I'm getting so frustrated! Basically, I relocated for work last year (about 175 miles) and I know I'm supposed to be able to deduct my moving expenses using FORM 3853. My company didn't reimburse me for the move so I'm trying to claim these expenses myself. I spent around $4,800 on the move (renting a truck, paying for help, storage costs for a month, etc). When I try to enter this information in TurboTax, it keeps saying something about this form being only available for military members? But everything I've read online says I should be able to use it for a job-related move. My new job is more than 50 miles from my old home so I thought I qualified. Am I doing something wrong in the software? Is there a special section I need to go to? Or has the tax law changed and the online articles I'm reading are outdated? Really don't want to miss out on this deduction because it's a significant amount of money for me. Has anyone else had this issue with FORM 3853 in TurboTax this year? Any help would be appreciated because I'm running out of time to file!

Samantha Hall

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You're running into an issue because the tax laws have changed. Since the Tax Cuts and Jobs Act of 2017, moving expenses (Form 3853) are only deductible for active-duty military members who are relocating due to military orders. For everyone else, including civilians relocating for work, these expenses are no longer tax-deductible at the federal level. TurboTax is actually giving you the correct information. The articles you're reading are likely outdated or don't reflect this significant change in the tax code. Before 2018, you would have been able to deduct these expenses with your move of 175 miles for a new job, but that's no longer the case. However, it's worth checking if your state still allows moving expense deductions. Some states didn't conform to the federal changes and still allow these deductions on state tax returns.

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Noah Torres

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Omg seriously? That's such a bummer, I had no idea the law changed! Did they ever say why they got rid of this deduction for regular people? That $4,800 would have made a huge difference on my return. Do you know which states might still allow it? I moved from Pennsylvania to Ohio if that helps.

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Samantha Hall

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The deduction was eliminated as part of the broader tax reform to simplify the tax code and offset other tax cuts. Many itemized deductions were either limited or eliminated completely at that time. For your specific situation, unfortunately neither Pennsylvania nor Ohio offers moving expense deductions on their state returns. Both states generally conform to federal tax law on this issue. Your best option might be to check if your employer would be willing to provide any retroactive reimbursement for the move, as some employers do this knowing the tax benefits are no longer available to employees. While it's a long shot if you haven't already arranged this, it might be worth asking.

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Sounds too good to be true. How is this different than just going to a tax professional? And how do they find deductions that TurboTax misses when TT is supposed to find everything? Did you actually get audited and have to prove these "other deductions" they found?

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Ryan Young

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Emily Parker

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Check with your employer if they can provide you with a letter stating that the move was necessary for your job. Sometimes even though you can't deduct the expenses directly with Form 3853 anymore, you might qualify for other deductions if the move directly relates to your business or employment activities. Also, keep all your receipts organized just in case the tax laws change again. There's been some talk about possibly bringing back some of these deductions in future tax years.

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Noah Torres

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My employer actually did give me a letter saying the move was required for the position! Would that help with any other deductions you know about? And do you think there's any chance they'll bring back the moving expense deduction in time for this tax season?

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Emily Parker

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The letter from your employer could potentially help if any of your expenses could be categorized as unreimbursed employee business expenses. Unfortunately, for most people, these aren't directly deductible either since 2018, but there are exceptions for certain qualified performing artists, fee-basis state or local government officials, and armed forces reservists. As for bringing back the moving expense deduction, it won't happen for this tax season. The Tax Cuts and Jobs Act provisions that eliminated this deduction are in effect through 2025. Any changes would likely come after that, when Congress reviews the expiring provisions. So definitely keep your documentation, but don't expect to use Form 3853 as a non-military taxpayer for at least a few more years.

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Ezra Collins

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i had the same issue with form 3853 on turbotax last year!!! try using freetaxusa instead. not sayin theyll let u deduct it (cuz of the tax law change other ppl mentioned) but their interface explains things WAY better than turbotax does and doesnt try to upsell u every 5 mins. also fyi - if ur company required u to move for work and didnt reimburse u, they really should have. most companies will cover relo expenses cuz they know its not tax deductible anymore. might be worth asking ur HR dept if theres any relo assistance even after the fact!

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I second the FreeTaxUSA recommendation! Been using them for years after getting fed up with TurboTax's constant upselling. Much clearer explanations about which forms you can and can't use. They won't be able to magically make Form 3853 available to non-military folks, but at least they'll explain WHY in plain English.

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