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Have you considered just learning how to properly handle the backdoor Roth yourself? Form 8606 isn't that complicated once you understand the basic concept. I've been doing my own backdoor Roth for 4 years now and honestly it takes me about 10 extra minutes in TurboTax. There are some great step-by-step guides online. The key things to remember: 1) Report the non-deductible traditional IRA contribution first 2) Then report the conversion to Roth separately 3) Make sure you have no other traditional IRA balances to avoid pro-rata complications Most tax preparers at chain places aren't trained for anything beyond basic returns.
Even with guides, I always worry about missing something important. Does TurboTax actually guide you through the backdoor Roth process well? Which version do you need to handle this correctly?
TurboTax Premier handles backdoor Roth conversions well. The software will ask if you made contributions to a traditional IRA, and you indicate they were non-deductible. Later, it asks about conversions to Roth IRAs. Just make sure you have the exact dates and amounts for both transactions. The most important thing is understanding the concept beforehand so you recognize if something doesn't look right. The software generates Form 8606 automatically, but I always review it to ensure it shows the non-deductible contribution basis correctly. Many online guides show what the completed form should look like for comparison.
i used the same tax prep chain for years and they were ok for simple returns but last year i started a side business and they totally messed up my schedule c. charged me $290 and didnt even know what business expenses i could deduct!!!! ended up redoing it myself with taxact and found over $2100 in deductions they missed. these places are just glorified data entry clerks using the same software we can buy ourselves lol
I had the exact opposite experience. Found a local CPA who specializes in small businesses and she found so many legitimate deductions I didn't know about. Sometimes it's worth paying more for actual expertise instead of the chains. Maybe try searching for someone who specifically works with your industry?
Have you tried using the IRS Tax Withholding Estimator? It's free and pretty accurate: https://www.irs.gov/individuals/tax-withholding-estimator I used it last year after getting a new job. You need some info handy (like your most recent paystubs for both you and your spouse), but it walks you through everything step by step and gives you exact numbers to put on your W-4.
I tried that calculator but got confused halfway through. Do you know if it's better than just checking the box in Step 2? My situation is pretty straightforward - just two jobs, no kids, standard deduction.
For a straightforward situation like yours (two jobs, similar income levels, no kids), checking the box in Step 2(c) on both W-4s should work fine. The calculator is more beneficial if you have a more complex situation with kids, multiple income sources, or if you itemize deductions. The box method is designed to withhold enough for two similarly-paying jobs. If you want to be extra cautious, you could put a small additional amount ($20-50 per paycheck) in Step 4(c) for additional withholding, but it's probably not necessary with your income levels.
Just be careful with your withholding no matter what you choose! My husband and I both work and we messed up our W-4s last year. We each claimed the standard deduction on our separate forms (big mistake) and ended up owing $4,300 at tax time!!! Make sure you only claim things on ONE of your W-4s, not both. That was our costly mistake.
That's actually not how the new W-4 works. You don't "claim" the standard deduction on the form anymore. The new form automatically incorporates the standard deduction into the withholding calculations. The old form with allowances is gone.
One important thing no one has mentioned yet - make sure you're using the right exchange rate! The Treasury Financial Management Service rate should be used for FBAR (FinCEN Form 114), but Form 8938 should use the exchange rate on the last day of the tax year. I messed this up on my first attempt and had to redo everything. Also, don't forget that the FBAR is filed electronically through the FinCEN BSA E-Filing System, not with your tax return. Form 8938 goes with your tax return. Different systems, different deadlines, different exchange rates... it's unnecessarily complicated.
Do you need to use the same exact exchange rate for all the accounts on one day, or can you use the rates from when you actually had the maximum balance in each account (which might be different days)?
For FBAR (FinCEN Form 114), you should use the Treasury Financial Management Service rate on the last day of the calendar year if you're reporting the value on that day. However, if you're reporting the maximum value during the year (which you should be), you're supposed to use the rate on the day when the maximum value occurred. For Form 8938, you use the exchange rate on the last day of your tax year, regardless of when the maximum balance occurred. This creates inconsistencies between the two forms, which is why they often have different reported values for the same accounts.
Does anyone know if there's a minimum penalty for late FBARs? I'm in kinda the same situation but my accounts are much smaller (around $175k total). Everything I read online makes it sound like the penalties are going to be massive even though I just didn't know about these forms.
If you qualify for the Streamlined Filing Compliance Procedures, there's a miscellaneous offshore penalty of 5% of the highest aggregate balance of your foreign financial assets during the 6-year lookback period. However, for non-willful violations outside the streamlined program, penalties can range from $10,000 per violation per year. The key is demonstrating that your failure to file was truly non-willful. If you go through the streamlined program and properly certify that your failure was non-willful, you can avoid the harsher penalties.
Has anyone tried checking bank records? Last year the IRS's stupid tracker still said "processing" THREE DAYS AFTER the money hit my account. I'd recommend logging into your bank account to check pending deposits too, not just relying on the tracker.
This!!! Same thing happened to me two years ago. The WMR never updated past "approved" but the money showed up in my account. Their systems don't communicate well with each other.
Exactly! Their systems are so outdated and disconnected from each other. Sometimes the left hand doesn't know what the right is doing. I've also noticed that if you're getting your refund via direct deposit, it sometimes shows up as pending in your bank account 1-2 days before the official deposit date the IRS gives you. Another tip: if you're using a tax preparation service like TurboTax or H&R Block and chose to have your fees taken out of your refund, your money actually goes through a third-party bank first, which can add 1-2 more days to the process. That might explain some delays too.
Anyone else notice the IRS seems to prioritize people who OWE money over people who are due refunds? My husband filed the same day as me, he owed $850 and his return was processed in 3 days. Meanwhile I'm due a $2,300 refund and I've been waiting for 23 days now with no updates. Just sayin'...
Savannah Weiner
A small refund is actually GOOD. It means you weren't giving the government an interest free loan all year. I aim for owing a small amount (but not enough to trigger penalties). If you want to check your preparer's work, look at your total federal income tax withholding on your W-2 (Box 2) and compare it to your total tax on your 1040 (Line 24). If your withholding is just slightly higher than your total tax, then everything is probably correct.
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Bethany Groves
ā¢Thanks for this explanation! I checked and my withholding in Box 2 was $15,980 and my total tax on Line 24 was $15,600, so the math does check out for the $380 refund. I guess I was just expecting more because I've always gotten bigger refunds before. Is it normal for the refund to vary this much from year to year? Last year I got back around $2,400.
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Savannah Weiner
ā¢The big difference between last year's $2,400 refund and this year's $380 is worth investigating. Something significant changed in either your withholding or your tax situation. Most likely explanations: 1) You updated your W-4 withholding form last year and it's now more accurate, 2) You had additional tax credits or deductions last year that you didn't have this year, or 3) Your income increased putting you in a higher tax bracket while your withholding didn't increase proportionally. I'd recommend comparing last year's return line by line with this year's to spot the differences.
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Levi Parker
Am I the only one who thinks tax preparers are a waste of money for simple returns? For a single person with just W-2 income, you could easily use TurboTax or FreeTaxUSA and save yourself the prep fees. Those programs would also explain your refund amount and alert you if something seemed off.
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Libby Hassan
ā¢Not a waste at all. I tried doing my own taxes for years and always stressed about making mistakes. My tax guy catches things I would miss and the peace of mind is worth every penny. Plus, he's available if I get any letters from the IRS.
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Hunter Hampton
ā¢I agree with you. I've been doing my own taxes for years with just W-2 income using FreeTaxUSA. It's like $15 for state filing and federal is free. The software walks you through everything and double-checks for errors. Plus you learn how taxes actually work instead of just handing everything over to someone else.
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