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Another thing to check - did you get any unemployment last year? Even a small amount? I had a similar situation and found out that unemployment compensation isn't automatically taxed at the same rate as regular income, so I ended up owing more than expected. Also, see if you qualified for any tax credits last year that you don't qualify for this year. Some credits change or phase out based on income levels or other factors. Even small changes in your situation can have surprising effects on your final refund.
I didn't have any unemployment, but I think you might be onto something with the tax credits. I took a closer look at last year's return and I had qualified for a partial education credit that I didn't get this year since I'm done with school. It wasn't a huge amount but it might explain part of the difference. I'm also going to check if my employer changed their withholding calculations like someone else suggested. Looking at my final pay stub vs my W-2, the numbers match, but maybe the percentage they're withholding has changed.
That education credit would definitely explain part of it! Those can be worth hundreds depending on which one you qualified for. And the withholding percentage is definitely worth checking too - employers sometimes adjust that based on updated IRS guidance without employees noticing. One other thing - you mentioned your AGI was around $31,500. Did you have any pre-tax deductions that changed from last year? Things like 401k contributions, HSA deposits, or health insurance premiums? If those changed, they can affect both your AGI and how much tax is withheld.
Has anyone noticed that tax software sometimes takes different paths through the questions from year to year? Last year I used the same software and my refund was nearly $500 higher than this year with almost identical income. I went through it again super carefully and realized that the software asked questions in a different order, and I missed a whole section about deductions that I had completed the previous year!
That's such a good point! I've used TurboTax for years and the question flow definitely changes. Last year they asked about home office deductions right up front, but this year it was buried in some "other expenses" section I almost skipped. The UI changes can make a huge difference in what deductions you end up claiming.
I think your CPA is overthinking this. In our partnership, we handle this by using special allocations in the partnership agreement. We specifically outline that certain expenses paid by one partner on behalf of another are treated as advances against future distributions. The $25k should be recorded as part of S2's draw initially, then S1 bills S2 for the $25k as a separate transaction between the S-Corps. This keeps the partnership accounts clean (equal $125k distributions) while properly tracking the reimbursement between entities.
Can you elaborate on how you handle this in your books? Do you track these special allocations through the capital accounts or do you have separate tracking outside the partnership accounting?
We track these allocations through our partnership capital accounts initially, showing equal distributions to maintain equal ownership percentages. Then we have a separate ledger for tracking reimbursements between partners outside the partnership. Our operating agreement specifically states that these reimbursements don't affect partnership interests or profit/loss allocations. It's essentially treated as a separate business arrangement between the partner entities that's documented but kept distinct from the partnership accounting.
Have you considered simplifying your structure? We used to have a similar complicated setup with multiple entities, but ended up dissolving the S-Corps and creating a partnership that pays guaranteed payments directly to the individual partners instead of to entities.
Have you checked whether you might have accidentally clicked something different in the TurboTax interview process? Sometimes there are questions that seem insignificant but actually impact your tax liability. For example, if you accidentally said you can be claimed as a dependent by someone else, that would prevent you from claiming your full standard deduction. Or if you missed checking a box for a tax credit you normally get. Also, did you get any 1099s this year? Even a small amount of self-employment income or investment income could cause you to owe taxes.
That's a good point! I went back through the whole interview process again and did find something weird. Last year I had checked that I had health insurance for the full year (which I did through my job), but somehow that setting didn't carry over correctly. After I fixed that, my amount owed went down by about $250! Unfortunately I still owe around $550, which seems to be because of the withholding issue others mentioned. But at least it's better than $800. No 1099s or anything like that - just my regular W-2.
Glad you found at least part of the issue! That health insurance question can definitely impact your taxes in some states. The withholding change is likely the main culprit for the remaining amount you owe. For the future, I recommend checking your pay stubs quarterly to make sure enough tax is being withheld. You can also use the IRS Tax Withholding Estimator midway through the year to see if you're on track. That way you won't get any unpleasant surprises at tax time!
Has anyone here tried both TurboTax and FreeTaxUSA? I'm thinking about switching because TurboTax keeps raising their prices every year, but I'm worried about accuracy issues.
I switched from TurboTax to FreeTaxUSA two years ago and would never go back. It's just as accurate but WAY cheaper. Federal filing is free and state is only $15. TurboTax was charging me $120+ for basically the same service. The interface isn't quite as pretty but it gets the job done and asks all the same questions.
One thing nobody's mentioned yet is that the IRS Withholding Calculator gets more accurate as the year progresses. Since we're already in the second half of the year, its projection is probably pretty close to reality. If you've recently gotten raises or your bonus was bigger than expected, that could explain the shift from "small refund" to "you'll owe $1k." What I do in your situation is just submit a new W-4 for the last quarter of the year with a bit of extra withholding, then switch it back in January. If you need to make up $1k before year-end and get paid biweekly, adding about $125-150 per paycheck in additional withholding (line 4c on the W-4) should get you back to a small refund.
That's really helpful advice about just doing a temporary adjustment for the rest of the year. Do you think I should do that additional withholding for both our W-4s or just mine? And do I need to change anything else on the form besides putting the extra amount on line 4c?
You could do it all on just one W-4 or split it between both - the IRS doesn't care as long as the total withholding is correct. If you're paid at similar frequencies, I'd just divide it evenly for simplicity. The easiest approach is to keep everything else the same on your current W-4s and just add the additional amount on line 4c. No need to change your filing status or check any additional boxes if the only issue is making up that $1k difference. Then in January, submit new W-4s removing that extra withholding amount.
Not sure if this applies to your situation, but when my wife and I were setting up our withholding, we found that TurboTax actually has a better withholding calculator than the IRS one. It takes into account more variables and seems to be more accurate for dual-income situations.
Anastasia Sokolov
This is why I use FreeTaxUSA for everything. Federal filing is free for ALL tax situations including crypto, stocks, self-employment, rental properties, whatever. State is only $15. I've been using them for years with no issues. They handle crypto transactions just fine - you just enter your cost basis and proceeds from the sale.
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Malik Johnson
โขThat sounds perfect! Do they have good support if I get confused about something? And is it really just $15 total as opposed to TurboTax's crazy $275?
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Anastasia Sokolov
โขYep, it's really just $15 for state filing - federal is completely free regardless of how complicated your return is. They do have customer support, though it's not as hand-holding as TurboTax. But for something simple like reporting a small crypto gain, you definitely won't need much help. They have a pretty straightforward section for capital gains where you just enter your info. I've filed everything from W-2 income to crypto gains to self-employment and rental income with them without issues. For your situation with just a small gain, it'll be super easy.
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StarSeeker
Just a heads-up that not reporting income you know about is technically tax fraud. Even if it's just $43, it's not worth the risk. The penalties for intentional non-reporting start at 20% of the unpaid tax plus interest, and can go up to 75% for fraud. Plus there could be a $5,000 frivolous tax return penalty in some cases.
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Sean O'Donnell
โขSeriously? The IRS is going to come after someone over what would amount to like $8 in taxes on a $43 gain? They have bigger fish to fry. The audit rate is at historic lows, and they're not wasting resources on tiny amounts like this.
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