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Paolo Romano

Help with W-4 form for new job! Confused about withholding

Hey everyone, just started a new job and I'm completely lost on filling out my W-4. The form looks different than the last time I did this (like 6 years ago?). My situation has changed too - I'm married now and my wife works full-time. I make about $62,000 and she makes around $58,000. I'm confused about the multiple jobs worksheet and whether I should check the box in Step 2. Last time I just put "0" for everything but that option doesn't even exist anymore. I don't want to end up owing a ton at tax time, but also don't want too much withheld. Any advice on how to properly fill this out? I'm especially confused about Steps 3 and 4.

Amina Diop

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The W-4 form changed significantly in 2020, so it's definitely different from what you remember! The good news is it's actually designed to be more accurate now. For married couples with both spouses working, you have three options in Step 2: 1) Check the box in Step 2(c) for roughly accurate withholding (easiest option) 2) Use the online estimator at irs.gov/W4app (most accurate) 3) Complete the Multiple Jobs Worksheet on page 3 (also accurate) If you check the box in 2(c), your withholding will be calculated at a higher single rate. This helps avoid underwithholding since both your incomes push you into a higher tax bracket together. Since your incomes are fairly similar ($62k and $58k), checking the box would work well for your situation. For Steps 3-4, only complete these if they apply to your situation. Step 3 is for claiming dependents/children. Step 4 is for other adjustments like additional income or deductions beyond your job.

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Paolo Romano

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Thanks for explaining! So if I just check the box in 2(c), do I need to fill out the multiple jobs worksheet at all? And should I do this on both my W-4 and my wife's, or just one of them?

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Amina Diop

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If you check the box in 2(c), you don't need to fill out the multiple jobs worksheet - that's an either/or situation. You should check the box on both your W-4 and your wife's W-4. If you only check it on one form, you'll still end up underwithholding. Both employers need to withhold at the higher rate since neither one knows about the other job's income.

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Have you tried using the IRS Tax Withholding Estimator? It's free and pretty accurate: https://www.irs.gov/individuals/tax-withholding-estimator I used it last year after getting a new job. You need some info handy (like your most recent paystubs for both you and your spouse), but it walks you through everything step by step and gives you exact numbers to put on your W-4.

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Paolo Romano

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I tried that calculator but got confused halfway through. Do you know if it's better than just checking the box in Step 2? My situation is pretty straightforward - just two jobs, no kids, standard deduction.

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For a straightforward situation like yours (two jobs, similar income levels, no kids), checking the box in Step 2(c) on both W-4s should work fine. The calculator is more beneficial if you have a more complex situation with kids, multiple income sources, or if you itemize deductions. The box method is designed to withhold enough for two similarly-paying jobs. If you want to be extra cautious, you could put a small additional amount ($20-50 per paycheck) in Step 4(c) for additional withholding, but it's probably not necessary with your income levels.

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Ravi Sharma

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Just be careful with your withholding no matter what you choose! My husband and I both work and we messed up our W-4s last year. We each claimed the standard deduction on our separate forms (big mistake) and ended up owing $4,300 at tax time!!! Make sure you only claim things on ONE of your W-4s, not both. That was our costly mistake.

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Freya Larsen

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That's actually not how the new W-4 works. You don't "claim" the standard deduction on the form anymore. The new form automatically incorporates the standard deduction into the withholding calculations. The old form with allowances is gone.

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