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Amara Nwosu

Newlyweds Confused: Help with Filling Out New W-4 Forms After Marriage

Hey everyone! So I just tied the knot this month and my spouse and I are completely lost when it comes to updating our W-4 forms. We don't even know if we should be filing jointly or separately next year. For context, I'm working two jobs - my main one pays about $27/hour for 40 hours weekly, and my side gig is around $13.50/hour plus tips for about 12 hours a week. My spouse has one job making roughly $24/hour for between 32-40 hours weekly. We're not looking for anything fancy - just want them to withhold the correct amount. Ideally, if we both claimed zero exemptions, we'd neither owe anything nor get a refund when we file taxes next year. That would be perfect for us. Would really appreciate if someone could walk us through how to fill out these new W-4 forms correctly for our situation! The new format is so different from what we're used to and we're totally confused.

AstroExplorer

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The W-4 form changed significantly in 2020, and there's no longer a "claiming zero" option like there used to be. Instead, you need to provide information that helps your employer calculate the right withholding amount. For most newlyweds, filing jointly is financially beneficial, but you should decide that based on your specific situation. The W-4 form itself doesn't lock you into a filing status - it just helps determine withholding throughout the year. Here's what I suggest: First, both of you should complete Step 1 (personal info) and Step 5 (signature) on your separate W-4 forms. For Step 2, since you have multiple jobs and your spouse works too, you should check box 2(c) on both your forms and your spouse's form. This accounts for the fact that you have multiple incomes between you. Skip Step 3 unless you have dependents or plan to claim credits. For Step 4, leave it blank unless you have significant non-wage income or want additional withholding.

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What about the tax withholding estimator tool on the IRS website? I used that when I got married last year and it was really helpful. Would you recommend that instead of just checking box 2c?

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AstroExplorer

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The IRS Tax Withholding Estimator is actually an excellent suggestion! It's more precise than just checking box 2c and will give you more accurate withholding recommendations based on both of your incomes combined. You can find it on IRS.gov by searching "tax withholding estimator." When you use the tool, it will ask for information about all your jobs and income sources, and then provide specific instructions for filling out your W-4s. This is especially helpful in your situation with multiple jobs between you. The tool will give you dollar amounts to put in specific lines if needed, rather than just relying on the standard calculations.

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Dylan Cooper

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Does it actually work with the new W-4 format? And can I use it if my husband and I have different pay schedules? He gets paid biweekly but I'm paid weekly at one job and monthly at my other job.

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Sofia Perez

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Yes, it works perfectly with the new W-4 format! That was actually one of the things I liked most about it. The tool is specifically updated for the current year's forms and requirements. It definitely handles different pay schedules without a problem. You can enter all the details about each job separately - including how often you're paid, any variable income like tips, and even accounting for any planned changes in income. It then creates personalized instructions for each person's W-4.

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Dylan Cooper

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Ava Johnson

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Ava Johnson

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Miguel Diaz

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Something to consider - if one of you makes significantly more than the other, you might want to adjust your withholding differently. When my wife and I got married, we found that we needed to withhold extra from the higher-earning spouse to avoid owing at tax time. Also, don't forget about that side job with tips! Tips are taxable income and if they're not withholding enough for those, you could end up with a surprise tax bill. I'd recommend putting a little extra withholding on that job's W-4.

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Amara Nwosu

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Good point about the income difference! My side gig with tips is definitely the wild card here. How would you suggest calculating how much extra to withhold specifically for that job? Is there a general percentage that works well for tip income?

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Miguel Diaz

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For tip income, a good rule of thumb is to set aside about 25-30% for taxes if nothing is being withheld from the tips currently. If you report your tips to your employer and they're withholding something already, you might still want to add a bit extra. The easiest approach would be to take your average weekly tips, multiply by 52 weeks, and then calculate 25% of that amount. Divide that by the number of pay periods in a year for that job, and you'll have a reasonable additional withholding amount to put on line 4(c) of your W-4 for that specific job.

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Zainab Ahmed

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One thing nobody's mentioned - you can always adjust your W-4 throughout the year if you find the withholding isn't right! My husband and I got married last year and had to tweak our withholding twice before we got it right. You might consider starting conservative (slightly higher withholding) and then after a few months, use the IRS Withholding Estimator again to see if you're on track. Many people don't realize you can submit a new W-4 to your employer anytime your situation changes.

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Connor Byrne

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How do you know if your withholding is on the right track during the year? Is there a way to check?

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