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Emily Parker

Just married, how many allowances should my wife and I each claim on our W4 forms?

So my wife and I just tied the knot last month (still feels weird saying "wife" lol) and we're trying to figure out this whole tax situation. We both work full-time - I'm in IT and she's a teacher. No kids, no plans for any in the immediate future. We're planning to update our W4 forms at work but honestly have no clue how many allowances each of us should claim now that we're married. I've always just put "1" on mine when I was single, and I think she did the same? But I've heard different things about married couples - like one person should claim 0 and the other claims all allowances? Or maybe we both claim 1? Or should we both claim higher numbers now that we're married? And does it matter that our incomes are pretty different (I make about 30% more than she does)? We're planning to file taxes jointly next year. Any advice on the best way to handle our W4 allowances to avoid owing a ton at tax time would be super helpful!

Ezra Collins

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Congrats on your marriage! The W-4 form actually changed in 2020, so it doesn't use "allowances" anymore. Instead, it uses a different system to determine withholding. For married couples both working, there's a specific section on the W-4 (Step 2) that addresses this. You have three options: 1) Use the Tax Withholding Estimator on the IRS website, 2) Use the Multiple Jobs Worksheet provided with the W-4, or 3) Check the box in Step 2(c) on both your W-4s which basically splits the standard deduction. Since you mentioned your incomes are somewhat different (30% gap), I'd recommend using the IRS Tax Withholding Estimator at irs.gov/W4app. It's the most accurate method. You'll need your most recent pay stubs and an estimate of your annual income. The tool will give you specific instructions for both of your W-4 forms.

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Emily Parker

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Wait, so there aren't even allowances anymore? Man I'm out of date! I haven't updated my W4 since I started my job 4 years ago. So if we both just check that box in Step 2(c), would that be a safe option? Or is the estimator really that much better? I'm just worried about owing a bunch when we file next year.

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Ezra Collins

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The estimator is definitely worth the 10-15 minutes it takes to complete because it's personalized to your specific situation. Checking the box in Step 2(c) is a simplified approach that works for many couples, but it's more of a "one-size-fits-all" solution and may not be optimal for your specific income difference. If you use the estimator, it will tell you exactly what to enter on each form, including any additional withholding amounts if needed. This is especially helpful with your 30% income difference, as it will help ensure you're not underwithholding or overwithholding. The tool lets you adjust your desired refund amount too, so you can aim for a small refund rather than owing.

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How accurate was it really? I tried one of those online calculators last year and still ended up owing $800 at tax time, which was a nasty surprise. Does it take into account things like side income or investments?

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Zara Perez

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Zara Perez

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Aaliyah Reed

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Ella Russell

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Daniel Rogers

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Ella Russell

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I have to eat my words about Claimyr. After posting my skeptical comment, I decided to try it anyway since I've been trying to reach the IRS about an issue with my W-4 after getting married (my employer kept saying they needed some special confirmation). I was honestly shocked when I got a call back in about 20 minutes with an actual IRS representative on the line. The agent cleared up my W-4 questions immediately and even helped me understand why I had a small balance due last year. Turns out both my wife and I had been claiming the full standard deduction on our separate W-4 forms, which was causing us to underwithhold. For anyone newly married with two incomes, definitely make sure you're accounting for that on your W-4s or you'll end up owing!

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Mohammed Khan

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My husband and I just adjusted our W-4s last month after getting married in March. One thing nobody mentioned yet - if your incomes are really different, sometimes it makes sense to have the higher earner take additional withholding rather than both of you adjusting. We found that having my husband (higher income) check the "Married but withhold at higher Single rate" box plus add a small additional amount each check worked better than both of us making adjustments. This approach was simpler for us since I only work part-time.

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Gavin King

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Does that approach still work with the new W-4 form? I thought they got rid of the "Married but withhold at higher Single rate" option when they redesigned the form?

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Mohammed Khan

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You're right that the exact wording changed on the newer W-4. On the current form, you would check the box in Step 2(c) that says "Check here if there are only two jobs total." This essentially does the same thing as the old "withhold at higher single rate" option. For us, my husband checked that box on his form and also added a small additional amount in Step 4(c) based on the worksheet calculations. I filled out my W-4 normally without checking that box. The IRS withholding calculator suggested this approach based on our specific income difference. The goal is to make sure enough tax is withheld between both jobs without taking too much.

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Nathan Kim

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One approach my spouse and I use is to just slightly overwithhold by adding an extra fixed amount on line 4(c) of both our W-4s. We each add $25 per paycheck. By the end of the year, that's an extra $1300 withheld between us (we're both paid biweekly), which has always covered any surprise tax issues from our investments or side hustles.

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I do something similar but I put all the extra withholding on my form and my wife keeps hers normal. Works great for us! We usually get back around $500-1000 which we put toward a summer vacation. Better than owing money in my opinion.

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Congratulations on getting married! As someone who went through this same situation a couple years ago, I'd definitely recommend starting with the IRS Tax Withholding Estimator that Ezra mentioned. It's free and gives you personalized recommendations. One thing I learned the hard way - don't just guess or use rules of thumb when your incomes are different like yours are. My husband and I initially just both checked the Step 2(c) box thinking that would be enough, but we ended up owing about $600 because we didn't account for some other factors properly. The estimator will ask for your pay stubs, expected annual income, filing status (married filing jointly), and any deductions you plan to take. It then gives you specific instructions for each of your W-4 forms. Since you're planning to file jointly and have that 30% income difference, it's really worth the 15 minutes to get it right rather than guessing and potentially owing at tax time. Also, remember you can always adjust your W-4s mid-year if your situation changes or if you find you're withholding too much or too little based on your paychecks!

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This is really helpful advice! I'm curious though - when you say you ended up owing $600 despite checking the Step 2(c) box, what were those "other factors" that caused the issue? My husband and I are in a similar boat (just got married in February) and I want to make sure we don't miss anything important when we use the estimator. Were there things like bonuses, different pay schedules, or tax credits that threw off the calculations?

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