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Zainab Yusuf

Newlyweds! How do I fill out new W-4 forms after getting married?

Hey everyone! So I just tied the knot this month and my spouse and I are completely lost when it comes to updating our W-4 forms. We honestly have no clue if we should be filing jointly or not for next year. For context, I'm working two different jobs. My main gig pays about $27 an hour for 40 hours weekly, and my side job is roughly $13.50 an hour plus tips for about 12 hours a week. My spouse has one job making around $24 an hour for anywhere between 32-40 hours weekly. We're just hoping to have them withhold the standard amount from our paychecks. Ideally, if we filed taxes next year and both had zero withholding, we'd neither owe money nor get a refund - that would be perfect for us. If anyone has a minute to explain how we should approach these new W-4 forms as a married couple, we'd really appreciate the guidance!

Congrats on getting married! The W-4 can definitely be confusing after a life change like marriage. First, regarding filing jointly vs. separately - this is about how you'll file your tax return next year, not your W-4 directly. Most married couples benefit from filing jointly, but there are some situations where filing separately makes sense (like if one of you has income-based student loan payments or significant medical expenses). For your W-4 forms, here's what you should know: - The new W-4 doesn't use allowances anymore - Both you and your spouse need to complete new W-4s with your employers - On each form, you'll check the "Married filing jointly" box in Step 1(c) - If both of you work (which you do), pay attention to Step 2 - The most accurate option is 2(b) where you use the worksheet or online calculator Since you want to break even (no big refund or amount owed), I'd recommend using the IRS Tax Withholding Estimator online. It'll help you get the right amount withheld based on both your incomes and your spouse's.

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Thanks so much for the info! I've been staring at these forms feeling totally lost. So we both select "Married filing jointly" on our separate W-4s then? And we'd each fill out Step 2 because we both work? Does the fact that I have 2 jobs complicate things even more? Should I be filling out a W-4 for each of my jobs?

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Yes, you'll both select "Married filing jointly" on your separate W-4 forms. And yes, since you both work, you each need to complete Step 2. The fact that you have 2 jobs does complicate things slightly. You need to complete a W-4 for each of your jobs. The IRS Tax Withholding Estimator is really helpful for multiple job situations. It accounts for all jobs and helps ensure you have the right amount withheld across all of them. If you don't use the estimator, the W-4 has a Multiple Jobs Worksheet you can complete instead, but it's a bit more work.

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Does taxr.ai account for things like student loan interest and mortgage deductions? My husband and I just got married too and we have both. I've been putting off dealing with our W-4s because it seems so complicated.

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I'm a bit skeptical... how accurate was their prediction compared to what you actually ended up owing/getting back? I've tried other calculators before and they were way off.

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It absolutely accounts for student loan interest and mortgage deductions! You can add all those details and it adjusts your withholding recommendations accordingly. That's actually one of the reasons I liked it - our mortgage interest made a big difference. Their prediction was surprisingly close for us - we aimed for a small refund (about $500) and ended up getting back $612. Much better than the $2,300 we owed the previous year! The key is being honest about all your income sources and deductions. It even lets you enter estimated tips which was super helpful for my wife's second job.

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Ok I need to eat my words about Claimyr. After my skeptical comment I decided to try it anyway because I've been trying to reach the IRS for 3 weeks about a notice I got after filing jointly for the first time. I used the service yesterday and they called me back in about 45 minutes when an agent was on the line. I honestly couldn't believe it worked. The IRS person helped me understand that the notice was because my wife and I both claimed the same deduction on our W-4s (we both put the full mortgage interest). The agent explained exactly how to fix our W-4s so we're not double-dipping. Would have taken me at least 2-3 more attempts and hours on hold to get this resolved. Sometimes it's worth admitting when you're wrong!

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Have either of you thought about just adjusting the "extra withholding" amount in Step 4(c) instead of trying to get the whole form perfect? That's what my wife and I did. We just each put $50 extra withholding per paycheck and it covered any potential underpayment from our W-4s not being exactly right. Not the most precise solution but it works if you're not sure about all the multiple jobs calculations. Just make sure you're both not withholding extra for the same expected shortfall.

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That's an interesting approach! Is there any downside to withholding extra? I'm guessing you'd just get it back as a refund, right? I'm wondering if $50 per check would be enough in our situation or if we should do more.

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No real downside except that you're essentially giving the government an interest-free loan until you get your refund. But if peace of mind is worth more to you than the small amount of interest you might earn, it's a good solution. For your situation with multiple jobs, you might want to do a quick calculation first. Add up your expected annual income from all sources, find what tax bracket that puts you in, and estimate the potential underwithholding. You might need more than $50 depending on your total household income, but it's an easy adjustment if you find out it's not enough.

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dont forget that if ur both working u can each claim married on the w4 BUT there's a checkbox for "multiple jobs or spouse works" that u NEED to check! my wife and i both forgot that part last year and ended up owing like $3200 at tax time. its on step 2 of the form. seriously dont skip it or youll be sorry

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This is really important advice! The reason is that the tax brackets for married filing jointly are not exactly double the single brackets at all income levels. If you both claim married without accounting for multiple jobs, the system assumes each job is your only household income and underwitholds accordingly.

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One other thing to consider - if you're planning to have kids soon or buy a house or have any other major life changes in the next year, you might want to adjust your W-4s again when that happens. Each of those things can significantly change your tax situation. When my wife and I had our first baby last year, we didn't update our W-4s until like September and we ended up with a huge refund because we were overwithholding for most of the year. Not the worst problem to have, but still not ideal for cashflow!

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As someone who went through this exact situation last year, I'd strongly recommend using the IRS Tax Withholding Estimator at irs.gov/W4App rather than guessing. It's free and specifically designed for situations like yours with multiple jobs and married filing status. Here's what worked for me and my spouse: 1. Gather your most recent paystubs from ALL jobs (including your two jobs and your spouse's one job) 2. Use the estimator to input all income sources - it handles multiple jobs really well 3. It will give you specific instructions for each W-4 form you need to fill out The key thing is that with your two jobs, you'll need to be strategic about which job gets the "higher withholding" treatment. Usually it's best to have your main job (the $27/hour one) handle most of the extra withholding needed. One tip: since you want to break even, consider having a small buffer ($25-50 extra withholding per month total) just in case. It's better to get a small refund than owe money and penalties. The estimator will walk you through exactly how to fill out Step 2 for the "multiple jobs" situation, and it accounts for the fact that you're both working. Don't skip this step - it's crucial for married couples where both spouses work!

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This is exactly the kind of detailed, practical advice I was hoping to find! Thank you for breaking it down step by step. I really appreciate the tip about having my main job handle most of the extra withholding - that makes a lot of sense since it's the higher-paying position with more consistent hours. The buffer suggestion is also smart. I'd much rather get a small refund than be surprised with a big tax bill. Do you remember roughly how long it took you to get through the whole estimator process with multiple jobs? I'm hoping it's not too time-consuming since we've been putting this off for way too long already!

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Congratulations on your marriage! I went through this exact same situation about 18 months ago and totally understand the confusion. Here's what I learned from my experience: the IRS withholding estimator really is your best friend here. With your two jobs plus your spouse's job, you're looking at a classic "multiple jobs" scenario that the estimator handles perfectly. A few practical tips from someone who's been there: 1. Do this together as a couple - you'll need info from both of your paystubs and it helps to coordinate your approach 2. The estimator will likely tell you to put most of the "extra withholding" on your higher-paying job ($27/hour one) since it's more predictable 3. Your side job with tips can be tricky - try to estimate your annual tips as accurately as possible, or slightly overestimate to be safe 4. When you get to Step 2 on the W-4 forms, make sure you're consistent - if one of you uses the estimator method, the other should too The whole process took my spouse and me about 30-45 minutes once we had all our paystubs together. We aimed to break even just like you, and we ended up owing only $78 this year - pretty close to perfect! One last thing - don't forget to update your W-4s if either of you gets a raise or changes jobs. Good luck!

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This is such helpful advice! Thank you for sharing your experience with the multiple jobs situation - it's really reassuring to hear from someone who was in the exact same boat and got it figured out successfully. I love the tip about doing it together as a couple. My spouse and I have been kind of avoiding this conversation because we both felt overwhelmed, but you're right that coordinating our approach will probably make it way less confusing. The fact that you ended up only owing $78 gives me a lot of confidence that the estimator actually works! That's pretty much exactly what we're aiming for. I'm definitely going to overestimate my tips rather than underestimate - better safe than sorry. Quick question: when you say you put most of the extra withholding on the higher-paying job, do you mean you left the side job W-4 pretty basic and did all the complicated stuff on the main job's form?

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Just wanted to jump in here as someone who works in tax preparation - you're all giving great advice! The IRS withholding estimator really is the gold standard for situations like this. One thing I'd add specifically for your situation with two jobs: make sure you understand that your side job ($13.50 + tips) might not be withholding enough on its own since it's treating you as if that's your only income. The estimator will catch this, but it's why coordination between your jobs' W-4s is so important. Also, regarding tips - the estimator has a specific section for this. Try to be as accurate as possible with your tip estimates since they can really add up over a year. If you're averaging even $3-4/hour in tips on that 12-hour-per-week job, that's potentially an extra $1,800+ annually that needs to be accounted for. The "married filing jointly" + "multiple jobs" combination is super common and the current W-4 form handles it much better than the old system. You've got this! The most important thing is just getting started rather than continuing to put it off.

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This is incredibly helpful insight from a tax professional! I hadn't really thought about how my side job is probably treating that $13.50 as if it's my only income, which would definitely lead to under-withholding when combined with my main job. Your point about tips is spot on too - I've been pretty casual about tracking them, but you're right that even a few dollars an hour adds up to real money over a full year. I probably average around $4-5 per hour in tips, so that could easily be $2,000+ annually that I need to account for properly. It's reassuring to hear from someone who deals with these situations professionally that the current W-4 system actually handles married couples with multiple jobs well. I was worried we were facing some impossible puzzle, but it sounds like this is totally manageable once we sit down and work through the estimator together. Thanks for the encouragement to just get started - we've definitely been in analysis paralysis mode for too long!

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Hey Zainab! Congrats on the marriage! 🎉 I just went through this exact same process a few months ago when my partner and I got married, and I totally get the overwhelm. The good news is it's really not as complicated as it seems once you break it down. Here's my simplified approach that worked for us: **Step 1:** Both of you check "Married filing jointly" on your respective W-4s **Step 2:** Since you both work (and you have 2 jobs), you MUST complete Step 2 on all your W-4 forms **Step 3:** Use the IRS withholding estimator at irs.gov/W4App - seriously, don't skip this. It's free and designed exactly for your situation For your multiple jobs situation, you'll fill out a W-4 for each employer (so 3 total W-4s). The estimator will tell you how to coordinate them so you're not over or under-withholding. One thing that really helped us: we treated it like a team project. We sat down together with all our paystubs, went through the estimator step by step, and made sure we were on the same page about our approach. The estimator will likely recommend putting most of any "extra withholding" on your main job since it's your highest and most consistent income. Your tip income does complicate things slightly, but the estimator handles that too - just try to estimate your annual tips as accurately as possible. We ended up owing about $150 this year, which was pretty much exactly what we were aiming for. Way better than the surprise tax bill we were worried about!

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Thank you so much Christian! This is exactly the kind of step-by-step breakdown I needed to see. I really appreciate you sharing your actual experience - it's so helpful to know that you ended up owing just $150, which sounds like pretty much perfect withholding to me! I love the idea of treating this as a team project with my spouse. We've both been kind of avoiding the conversation because it felt overwhelming, but you're absolutely right that tackling it together will probably make it way less intimidating. Plus we'll both understand what we're doing instead of one of us trying to figure it out alone. The point about putting most of the extra withholding on my main job makes total sense since it's the most predictable income. I'm definitely going to try to get a better handle on tracking my tips too - I've been pretty casual about it but I realize that could really throw off our calculations if I'm not careful. Thanks for the encouragement that this really isn't as complicated as it seems! I think we just need to bite the bullet and sit down with all our paystubs this weekend. Really appreciate you taking the time to share your experience! 🙏

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This thread has been so incredibly helpful! As someone who just got married last month too, I was feeling completely lost about the whole W-4 situation. Reading through everyone's experiences and advice has really given me the confidence to tackle this. I think the key takeaways I'm getting are: 1. Both spouses select "Married filing jointly" on their separate W-4s 2. Since both work, we MUST complete Step 2 on all forms 3. Use the IRS withholding estimator - it's free and handles multiple jobs perfectly 4. Coordinate the approach so we're not double-counting deductions or withholding The tip about doing this as a team project really resonates with me. My spouse and I have been putting this off because it felt overwhelming, but breaking it down step-by-step like this makes it seem totally manageable. One question - for those who've used the IRS withholding estimator with tip income, how precise do you need to be with those estimates? I work in food service too and my tips can vary quite a bit week to week. Should I use my average over the past few months, or try to be more conservative/aggressive with the estimate? Thanks everyone for sharing your real experiences - it's so much more helpful than just reading generic tax advice online!

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Welcome to the newlywed W-4 club! 😅 This thread has been such a lifesaver for me too - I was totally intimidated by the whole process until I started reading everyone's experiences. For tip income estimates, I'd recommend being slightly conservative rather than aggressive. From what I've learned here, it's better to overestimate your tips a bit and get a small refund than to underestimate and owe money at tax time. I'd suggest looking at your tip income over the past 2-3 months to get a good average, then maybe round up slightly. One thing that's helped me is keeping a simple note in my phone where I jot down my tips after each shift. It only takes 30 seconds but gives me much better data for these kinds of calculations. If your tips vary a lot seasonally (like if you work somewhere that's busier during holidays or summer), try to factor that into your annual estimate too. The team approach really is the way to go! My partner and I finally sat down last weekend with all our paystubs and knocked out the whole estimator process in about 45 minutes. Having both of us involved made it way less stressful and we both understand our withholding strategy now. Good luck with your W-4 adventure! You've got this! 💪

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As a tax professional who has helped many newly married couples navigate this exact situation, I want to emphasize a few key points that haven't been fully addressed yet: **Timing is crucial** - Since you just got married this month, you have the option to file as "Married Filing Jointly" for the ENTIRE 2025 tax year, even though you were only married for part of the year. This often works in your favor tax-wise. **Your tip income strategy** - With your $13.50/hour + tips job, I'd recommend tracking your tips more systematically going forward. The IRS expects tip reporting, and having good records will make your tax filing much smoother. For the withholding estimator, use a conservative estimate based on your recent months. **Quarterly check-ins** - Here's something most people don't think about: plan to revisit your withholding mid-year (around June/July) to see how you're tracking. Life changes, pay raises, or even seasonal variation in your tip income can throw off your initial calculations. **The "safe harbor" rule** - If you want extra peace of mind, you can aim to have withheld at least 90% of this year's tax liability OR 100% of last year's tax liability (whichever is smaller). This protects you from underpayment penalties even if you end up owing a bit. The IRS withholding estimator really is your best bet here. Just make sure to update it if anything significant changes with either of your jobs throughout the year!

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This is incredibly valuable professional insight! Thank you for bringing up the timing aspect - I hadn't even considered that we could file as "Married Filing Jointly" for the entire 2025 tax year even though we only got married this month. That's actually really encouraging to hear that it often works in couples' favor. The quarterly check-in advice is brilliant and something I definitely wouldn't have thought of on my own. You're absolutely right that things like pay raises or seasonal changes in tip income could throw off our initial calculations. I'm going to put a reminder in my calendar for June to revisit this. The safe harbor rule explanation is super helpful too - having that 90%/100% guideline gives me a concrete target to aim for beyond just "breaking even." It's reassuring to know there's built-in protection against penalties even if we don't get it perfectly right. I really appreciate you taking the time to share your professional expertise with us newbies. This kind of detailed, practical guidance from someone who deals with these situations regularly is exactly what I needed to feel confident about tackling our W-4s. Thanks for helping make what seemed like an impossible puzzle feel totally manageable!

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Congrats on getting married! 🎉 I just wanted to chime in as someone who went through this exact same situation about 6 months ago. The overwhelm is so real - my spouse and I kept putting it off because it felt impossibly complicated. But honestly, after reading through this thread, you've gotten some absolutely fantastic advice here! The IRS withholding estimator really is a game-changer for multiple job situations like yours. One thing I'd add from my experience: don't beat yourself up if you don't get it perfectly right the first time. We were so worried about getting the "perfect" withholding that we delayed for months. In the end, we aimed for breaking even and ended up with a $200 refund - not perfect, but totally acceptable and way better than the stress of continuing to put it off. Also, your tip tracking situation is super relatable. I used to just estimate randomly, but now I use a simple app on my phone to log tips after each shift. Takes literally 10 seconds but makes such a difference when you need real numbers for tax stuff. The biggest thing that helped us was just scheduling a specific time to sit down together with all our paystubs and tackle the estimator. Once we actually started, it took way less time than we'd built it up to be in our heads. You've got this! 💪

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