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Ugh, I feel your pain! I'm currently at week 11 with code 960 and it's been such a rollercoaster of emotions. What's helped me cope is joining a few Facebook groups specifically for people dealing with IRS delays - there's something oddly comforting about seeing hundreds of others in the same boat. One tip I picked up: if you have a tax preparer, ask them to check if there are any common issues with returns they filed that might have triggered your review. My preparer found out that a bunch of their clients who claimed the Recovery Rebate Credit got flagged this year due to some system glitch on the IRS side. Not sure if that applies to your situation, but worth checking! The waiting is absolutely brutal but try to remember that the vast majority of 960 codes do get resolved eventually. Hang in there! šŖ
Thanks for mentioning those Facebook groups! I'm definitely going to look into joining some - it really does help knowing you're not alone in this mess. The Recovery Rebate Credit thing is interesting too, makes me wonder if there are other systemic issues causing delays this year. I didn't have a tax preparer (did it myself with TurboTax) but maybe I should call and see if there's any pattern with what's getting flagged. Week 11 sounds rough though - hopefully you're getting close to resolution! š¤ Did any of the Facebook groups have tips for dealing with the stress/anxiety while waiting?
I've been through this exact situation! Had code 960 pop up on my transcript back in September and just got my refund released last month. The whole process took about 16 weeks total, but like others mentioned, I did get interest which ended up being around $180 on a $3,800 refund. What really helped me was keeping a simple log of when I checked my transcript and any changes - it made me feel more in control even though there wasn't much I could actually do. Also want to echo what others said about the Taxpayer Advocate Service - they were actually pretty helpful when I reached out around the 14 week mark. They couldn't speed things up but they did give me a better timeline estimate and helped me understand that my case was progressing normally. The anxiety is real but try to remember that code 960 doesn't mean there's anything wrong with your return - it's just their way of being extra thorough. You'll get through this! š
Thank you so much for sharing your experience! 16 weeks sounds like forever but it's really encouraging to hear that you got your full refund plus that nice interest payment. I love the idea of keeping a log - that actually sounds like it would help with the anxiety of not knowing what's happening. I've been driving myself crazy checking the transcript multiple times a day! I'm only at 3 months right now so hopefully I'm getting closer to the end. Did you notice any specific changes in your transcript codes before the refund was actually released, or did it just suddenly update one day?
has anyone actually managed to talk to a human at the IRS lately? I've been trying for weeks and can't get through.
I got through by calling at exactly 7:00am Eastern time and using the Spanish line (even though I don't speak Spanish). The agents are bilingual and will help you in English.
I've tried everything and still can't get through. It's ridiculous that this is the only way to get answers about our own money.
The 'as of' date changing from April 30 to May 25 is actually pretty normal during processing, especially for EITC returns. I went through the same thing last year - mine changed dates about 3 times before my refund finally came through. The IRS systems are notorious for these date shifts that don't really correlate to your actual refund timeline. Since you filed in early March and it's been accepted, you're still within the normal processing window. EITC returns do take longer because they require additional verification steps to prevent fraud. The fact that you don't see any error codes (like 570 or 971) on your transcript is a good sign that there aren't any major issues with your return. Try not to check daily if you can help it - I know it's tempting but it just adds to the stress. The date changes are more about their internal system cycles than anything specific happening with your individual return. You should see movement in the next few weeks!
This entire thread has been incredibly helpful for understanding QJVs! As someone who's been researching this option with my spouse for months, I really appreciate all the practical insights everyone has shared. One question I haven't seen addressed yet - for those who have made the QJV switch, how do you handle business expenses that one spouse pays for but both need to deduct? For example, if I pay for business supplies with my personal credit card, do I need to reimburse myself from the business and then split that expense between our Schedule Cs? Or can we each just deduct our respective portions directly based on our ownership percentages? Also, I'm curious about the mechanics of splitting income when payments come in irregularly. We do project-based work where we might get a large payment in one month and nothing the next. Do you split each payment as it comes in, or do you reconcile everything at year-end based on your agreed percentages? Thanks again to everyone who's shared their experiences - this has been way more informative than anything I've found in the official IRS publications!
Great questions about the practical day-to-day mechanics! For business expenses paid personally, the cleanest approach is to have one spouse pay the expense, then reimburse themselves from the business account, and finally split that expense between your two Schedule Cs based on your ownership percentages. This creates a clear paper trail that the IRS can easily follow if needed. However, some couples I know just track who paid what throughout the year and then allocate the deductions proportionally at tax time without doing the reimbursement dance. Either way works, but the reimbursement method is more audit-friendly since it keeps personal and business finances clearly separated. For irregular income, I'd recommend splitting each payment as it comes in based on your agreed percentages - this makes your bookkeeping much cleaner throughout the year. You can set up a simple spreadsheet to track each spouse's share of income and expenses as they occur. Waiting until year-end to reconcile everything can get messy, especially if you have a lot of transactions or if your business grows significantly during the year. The key is consistency - whatever method you choose for handling expenses and income splitting, stick with it throughout the tax year so your records tell a coherent story.
This has been such a comprehensive discussion! I'm actually in a very similar situation to the original poster - my wife and I have been running our consulting business with me as the sole proprietor and her as an employee for the past 3 years. Reading through everyone's experiences has really convinced me that switching to a QJV is the right move for us. One thing I wanted to add that I learned from our accountant - if you're currently paying your spouse W-2 wages like we are, switching to a QJV will eliminate the need for payroll processing, quarterly payroll tax filings, and year-end W-2 preparation for the spouse. That's a nice administrative simplification that can save both time and money on payroll service fees. The point about both spouses earning Social Security credits really resonates with us too. My wife has been earning credits through her W-2 wages, but with the QJV structure, she'll potentially earn more credits based on her share of our self-employment income, which could significantly impact her future Social Security benefits. Thanks to everyone who shared their real-world experiences - especially the practical tips about documentation, banking relationships, and expense handling. This thread has given me way more confidence about making the switch than months of trying to decipher IRS publications on my own!
This is such great insight about the payroll simplification aspect! I hadn't really thought about how much administrative burden we'd be eliminating by not having to process W-2s and quarterly payroll taxes for my spouse anymore. That alone could make the QJV switch worthwhile even before considering the tax benefits. Your point about Social Security credits is really important too. We've been in a similar boat where my husband has been my "employee" for tax purposes, but his earning potential through our business is actually much higher than what we've been able to justify paying him in W-2 wages. With a QJV, his Social Security earnings record would better reflect his actual contribution to our business success. I'm curious - did your accountant mention anything about the timing of making this change? We're already a few months into 2025, and I'm wondering if it makes more sense to wait until 2026 to start fresh with a new tax year, or if switching mid-year (like others mentioned) is straightforward enough that we shouldn't delay the benefits. Also, for those who have employees like the original poster's sons, did you notice any changes in how you handle workers' compensation insurance or other employee-related obligations when both spouses became the "employers"?
I had this exact same issue last month! Turns out I was entering my SSN with dashes when the system expected it without. Also double-check that you're using your filing status exactly as it appears on your return - even something like "Single" vs "S" can cause a mismatch. The IRS systems are super picky about exact formatting.
Had this exact same problem last week! Turns out I was entering my refund amount wrong - I was using the total refund amount from my tax software, but you actually need to use the amount after any fees were deducted. So if your software shows $1,200 refund but they took a $40 filing fee, you need to enter $1,160. Also make sure you're waiting at least 24 hours after e-filing before checking - the system needs time to process your return first.
Charlee Coleman
Welcome to the transcript world, Lucas! I know it feels overwhelming at first, but you're actually in a great position now that you can access them. Here's my simplified approach after dealing with business returns for years: 1. Find the "Account Transcript" (not the other types) 2. Scroll to the bottom transaction codes section 3. Look for TC 846 - this is your golden ticket with the exact refund date 4. TC 150 = processed (you're good!) 5. TC 570 = hold (common for business returns, usually temporary) Since you filed business taxes, expect everything to move slower than individual returns. The transcript updates weekly based on your cycle code (top right corner). Once you see that 846 code appear with a date, that's when your money will hit your account - it's been accurate to the day in my experience. Don't bother with "Where's My Refund" - it's pretty much useless for business returns. The transcript is your most reliable source. Hang in there, the waiting is the hardest part!
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NebulaNinja
Hey Lucas! I was in your exact shoes last year with my first business return - totally lost looking at all those codes! Here's what finally clicked for me: Focus on the Transaction Codes section at the bottom. Code 150 means they accepted and processed your return (yay!). Code 846 is the one you're hunting for - that's your actual refund date and amount. If you see Code 570, don't freak out like I did - it's just a temporary hold that's super common with business returns and usually resolves within 2-3 weeks. The cycle code in the upper right corner (looks like 20241405 or something) tells you which day of the week your transcript updates - super helpful for knowing when to check back. Business taxes definitely take longer than simple W-2 returns, so be patient. Once that 846 code appears with a date, you can bank on getting your refund that exact day. Way more reliable than the "Where's My Refund" tool which basically ignores business returns. Good luck and congrats on finally getting access to your transcripts - it's a game changer!
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