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Dylan Cooper

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I verified in person on February 17th, 2024, and saw my "as of" date change on February 23rd. Then on March 2nd, I got all my transcript codes including the 846 refund issued code! The deposit hit my account on March 7th exactly as scheduled. In-person verification definitely speeds things up. Just hang tight - you're on the right track!

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Diego Flores

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That "as of" date change is definitely a positive sign, especially after your in-person verification! I've been tracking patterns in this community for a while, and typically when the "as of" date updates following verification, it means your return has been released from the verification hold and is now actively being processed. For amended returns, you'll usually see the next update within 7-14 days - look for transaction codes like 971 (notice issued) or 977 (amended return processing). Keep checking throughout the day since updates can happen anytime, not just overnight. The fact that yours moved from 3/15 to 4/22 suggests they're working on your case right now. Stay patient but optimistic! šŸ¤ž

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Javier Gomez

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Thanks for breaking down the timeline so clearly! I'm new to all this transcript checking stuff and honestly feeling pretty overwhelmed by all the codes and dates. Your explanation about the 971/977 codes is super helpful - I had no idea what to look for next. Quick question: when you say "actively being processed," does that mean someone is literally working on my return right now, or is it more like it's in a queue waiting to be worked on? Just trying to manage my expectations here! šŸ˜…

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I've been working with US companies for about 3 years now from Madrid, and I've found that persistence is key when requesting EINs. What worked best for me was sending a professional email explaining that it's a legal requirement for my tax filings in Spain, similar to how they might need VAT numbers from European suppliers. I usually phrase it like: "For compliance with Spanish tax regulations, I need to include your company's EIN (Employer Identification Number) on all invoices, similar to how you might require VAT numbers from European vendors." About 90% of companies provide it without issue once they understand it's for legal compliance, not just administrative convenience. For the remaining 10% who are hesitant, I've found that mentioning it's standard practice for international business transactions usually does the trick. One thing I learned the hard way - make sure to get this information before you start working, not after you've already sent invoices. It's much easier to request upfront as part of your onboarding process than to go back and ask for it later.

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Mei Lin

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This is such great practical advice! I wish I had seen this before I started my contract. I made exactly the mistake you mentioned - I waited until after I'd already done some work to ask for their EIN, which made the whole conversation feel awkward and like I was questioning their legitimacy. Your email template is perfect too. I think framing it as "similar to how you might require VAT numbers from European vendors" really helps them understand it's just standard international business practice, not some unusual Spanish requirement. Quick question - when you say "onboarding process," do you typically ask for the EIN during contract negotiations, or do you wait until after the contract is signed but before you start work? I'm trying to figure out the best timing for future clients.

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Great question! I typically ask for the EIN right after the contract is signed but before I start any actual work. I include it as part of my "administrative setup" along with getting their preferred invoice format, payment terms confirmation, and billing contact information. This timing works well because the business relationship is already established (contract signed), but you haven't delivered any value yet, so there's no awkwardness about suddenly asking for documentation. I usually send a brief "next steps" email that says something like "Now that we have the contract finalized, I need to collect a few pieces of information for invoicing and tax compliance purposes." I've found that bundling the EIN request with other standard business setup items makes it feel completely routine rather than like a special demand. Plus, if there are any issues getting the information, you find out before you've invested time in the project. The only time I ask during contract negotiations is if I'm working with a very small company that seems disorganized - in those cases, I want to verify they're legitimate before I commit to anything!

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Caleb Stone

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As a tax professional who works with both US and European clients, I can confirm that US companies absolutely have tax identification numbers called EINs (Employer Identification Numbers). The confusion your client showed is actually pretty common - many US businesses aren't used to sharing their EIN with international contractors since it's not standard practice domestically. Here's what I recommend: Send them a brief, professional email explaining that you need their EIN for Spanish tax compliance purposes. You can say something like "For compliance with Spanish tax regulations, I'm required to include your company's EIN on all invoices, similar to how US companies often request VAT numbers from European suppliers." Most legitimate businesses will provide this information once they understand it's for legal compliance. If they're still hesitant, you can also request a W-9 form from them, which contains their EIN and other business details - US companies are very familiar with W-9 requests. For your Spanish tax filings, include the EIN in the same field where you'd normally put a Spanish CIF or NIF. Spanish tax authorities recognize US EINs as valid foreign tax identifiers. Getting this information upfront will save you potential headaches during tax season or if you ever face an audit.

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Carmen Ortiz

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This is exactly the kind of professional guidance I was looking for! As someone just starting out with US clients, I really appreciate the specific email template suggestion. The comparison to how US companies request VAT numbers from European suppliers is brilliant - it frames the request in terms they'll immediately understand. I'm definitely going to use the W-9 approach as a backup if they seem hesitant about just providing the EIN directly. Having that alternative feels like it gives me more confidence in the conversation. Quick follow-up question: When you mention including the EIN "in the same field where you'd normally put a Spanish CIF or NIF" - do you mean literally in the tax ID field on the invoice, or should it go somewhere else like in the client details section? I want to make sure I'm formatting everything correctly for Spanish tax authorities from the start.

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Nia Johnson

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I'm experiencing the exact same issue - filed my CA return on March 5th and it's been over 7 weeks now with nothing but that unhelpful "processing" status. My federal refund came through in 12 days, so this is definitely a California-specific problem. After reading through all these comments, it's clear that CA has major systemic issues this year. The 6-10 week delays seem to be the unfortunate new reality due to their enhanced fraud prevention measures. What's particularly frustrating is how their online system provides zero transparency - just that generic "processing" message with no timeline or explanation. I've been checking my mail religiously after seeing how many people here received important notices that never showed up in their online status. It's concerning that their systems are so disconnected in 2025. Planning to wait until the 8-week mark before attempting to call, though based on everyone's experiences here, it sounds like their customer service is pretty much useless anyway. At least we're all suffering together! Hang in there everyone - hopefully our refunds start showing up soon.

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I'm in the exact same boat! Filed on March 8th and it's been 6+ weeks with just that useless "processing" status. It's so frustrating how California's system is basically a black box - you have no idea what's actually happening with your return. What really gets me is that we can track a $5 package from Amazon in real-time, but a government agency in 2025 can't give us any meaningful status updates on our tax refunds. The disconnect between their mail system and online portal is particularly concerning. I'm also planning to wait until 8 weeks before calling, since it sounds like their phone support is just as unhelpful as their website. At this point I'm just hoping it shows up before the end of summer! Thanks for sharing your experience - definitely makes me feel less alone in this mess.

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Miguel Diaz

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I'm dealing with this exact same situation! Filed my CA return on March 3rd and I'm now at 7+ weeks with nothing but that generic "processing" status. My federal refund came through in 8 days, so this is definitely a California-specific nightmare. What's really frustrating is how their system gives you absolutely zero useful information - just "processing" with no indication of timeline or what's actually happening. Reading through everyone's experiences here, it seems like 6-10 weeks has become the unfortunate new normal this year due to their enhanced fraud detection measures. I've started checking my mail more carefully after seeing how many people got important notices that never appeared in their online status. It's pretty concerning that in 2025 their systems are so poorly integrated. I'm going to wait until I hit 8 weeks before attempting to call, though based on what everyone is saying here about 3+ hour hold times just to be told "it's processing," I'm not expecting much help. At least it's somewhat reassuring to know this is happening to so many of us - definitely not just you! Hang in there!

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Fidel Carson

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I'm also stuck in this CA refund limbo! Filed on March 12th and hitting 6 weeks now with the same useless "processing" status. It's honestly ridiculous that we can get real-time tracking on a pizza delivery but California can't give us any meaningful updates on our own money. What's really concerning me after reading all these experiences is how many people are getting important notices in the mail that don't show up online AT ALL. Like, how is their system so broken that critical information doesn't sync between departments? I'm definitely going to start obsessively checking my mailbox now. Thanks everyone for sharing - at least now I know this isn't some weird issue with just my return. Sounds like we're all just victims of CA's "enhanced security measures" aka their inability to process returns efficiently šŸ™„

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Evelyn Kelly

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Has anyone tried MileIQ for retroactively creating logs? My accountant mentioned it but I'm not sure if it can help with past years or just going forward.

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Paloma Clark

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MileIQ is primarily for tracking current/future trips. For past years, I'd recommend a spreadsheet approach where you manually enter the data from whatever sources you have. Google Timeline history + a spreadsheet template worked best for me.

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Yuki Sato

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One thing that really helped me when I had to reconstruct my 2017 mileage logs was creating a "typical week" template first. I looked at my calendar patterns and identified my regular business destinations, then calculated standard routes between them. For example, if I went to Client A every Monday and Client B every Wednesday, I could establish those as baseline trips and then look for variations. This approach helped me avoid over-estimating miles while still capturing the bulk of my business travel. Also, don't forget to check your car insurance records - sometimes they have annual mileage estimates that can help validate your totals. And if you had any major car repairs or oil changes, those service records often include odometer readings that can serve as checkpoints for your reconstruction. The IRS generally accepts reasonable reconstructions as long as you can show you made a good faith effort using available evidence. Document your methodology clearly - explain what sources you used and how you calculated the mileage. This transparency actually helps your case if you're ever questioned about it.

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Liam McGuire

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This is really smart advice! I never thought about using insurance records or service receipts as validation points. That "typical week" approach makes so much sense too - it would definitely help establish credible patterns rather than trying to remember every single trip from years ago. Quick question - when you say "document your methodology clearly," did you create like a separate explanation document, or did you just add notes within your mileage log spreadsheet? I want to make sure I'm presenting this the right way if I ever need to defend it.

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Luca Esposito

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This is such a helpful thread! I'm dealing with a similar situation where my client filed Form 966 but now wants to continue operations. One thing I wanted to add from my experience - make sure to document the timing of when the abandonment decision was made versus when any liquidating distributions might have already occurred. If partial distributions were made after the Form 966 filing but before the abandonment, those might need special treatment. The IRS could view those as liquidating distributions even if the overall plan is later abandoned. I learned this the hard way when a client had already distributed some assets to shareholders before changing their mind. Also, keep detailed records of the corporate decision-making process. The IRS may want to see evidence that the abandonment was a legitimate business decision and not just tax avoidance. Board minutes, shareholder resolutions, and documentation of the changed business circumstances can all be important if you're ever questioned about the abandonment. The guidance about sending a statement to the IRS service center is spot on - just make sure it's comprehensive and references all the relevant dates and corporate actions.

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Emma Thompson

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This is incredibly valuable information! The point about partial distributions is something I hadn't fully considered. In our case, we haven't made any distributions yet since filing the Form 966, but this is definitely something to keep in mind for future situations. Your advice about documenting the business reasons for abandonment is particularly helpful. We have legitimate changed circumstances (new contracts and market opportunities that weren't available when we initially decided to liquidate), so we'll make sure to have the board formally document these reasons in the resolution. Thanks for sharing your experience - it's exactly these kinds of practical details that make the difference between doing this right and potentially creating problems down the road!

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Malik Johnson

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Great thread everyone! I'm a tax advisor who's handled several Form 966 reversals, and I wanted to add a few practical points that might help others in similar situations. First, timing is crucial when documenting the abandonment. The IRS generally wants to see that the decision to abandon was made for legitimate business reasons, not just to avoid tax consequences. Make sure your corporate minutes clearly state the business justification for continuing operations. Second, if you're in a state that requires annual franchise tax filings, check whether your Form 966 filing affected your state tax status. Some states automatically change your filing requirements once they're notified of dissolution plans, so you may need to update your state tax registration as well. Finally, consider the impact on any tax elections that might have been made in conjunction with the liquidation plan. For example, if you made a Section 338 election or any other special elections related to the liquidation, you'll need to evaluate whether those need to be addressed separately. The advice about sending a signed statement to the IRS service center is absolutely correct - just make sure it includes the EIN, original Form 966 filing date, and a clear statement that the plan has been formally abandoned by appropriate corporate action with the date of that action.

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Jibriel Kohn

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This is exactly the kind of comprehensive guidance I was hoping to find! As someone new to handling corporate dissolutions, I really appreciate you mentioning the Section 338 election issue - that's something I would never have thought to consider. Quick question about the state franchise tax implications you mentioned: if a corporation filed Form 966 but never actually dissolved at the state level (like in the original post), would there typically still be franchise tax complications? Or is that mainly an issue when actual state dissolution paperwork was filed? Also, do you have any recommendations for the specific language to use in the statement to the IRS? I want to make sure we get the wording right the first time rather than having to file additional clarifications later. Thanks for sharing your expertise - this thread has been incredibly educational for someone still learning the intricacies of corporate tax law!

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